I'd like to run this list to see what the thought is. I'm trying to get a feel for what works and what doesn't in general.
HQ
Fuegan - 205 pts
Baharroth - 200 pts
Elites
Fire Dragons (6), Exarch, Firepike - 116
Wraithguard (5) - 175
Spiritseer, Conceal - 46
Wraithguard (5) - 175
Spiritseer, Singing Spear, Conceal - 49
Troops
Pathfinders (6) - 144
Jetbikes (3), Shreiker - 76
Fast Attack
Swooping Hawks (6), Exarch, Sunrifle - 153
Heavy Support
Fire Prism, Shuriken Cannon, Holo Field - 160
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List total 1499
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I'm not worried too much about the "cheese" aspect of taking two Phoenix Lords since we're just messing around with stuff and we pretty much just play and don't call each other's lists cheesy.
Otherwise, I'm just looking for feedback about how this should do and any general thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
Pardon me, Guardian Jetbikes can't take Shrieker Cannon. Perhaps a typo for Shuriken Cannon?
I feel you should get a transport for the firedragons. Their range is too short.
You can take off conceal from the wraithguards. Their high toughness is enough defence and saving u some points to be invested elsewhere.
Points saved can go into adding spirit stone for the prism. Another another guardian jetbike. Or perhaps buy SkyLeap for the Swooping Hawks.
| QUOTE (Isildius @ Jan 30 2008, 04:15 PM) |
| Pardon me, Guardian Jetbikes can't take Shrieker Cannon. Perhaps a typo for Shuriken Cannon? |
Pardon my slang. Technically you are correct as the Jetbike does not pin, but otherwise they're identical weapons. (GW called it "Shrieker Jetbike" on the box, so I figured that everyone would know what I meant.
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| I feel you should get a transport for the firedragons. Their range is too short. |
Yup. I think that is definitely true, so I'm thinking about swapping the FP for a Falcon.
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| You can take off conceal from the wraithguards. Their high toughness is enough defence and saving u some points to be invested elsewhere. |
This was actually the first time I've tried to take Conceal with the dead guys. I usually take Enhance to give them a bit more punch.
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| Points saved can go into adding spirit stone for the prism. Another another guardian jetbike. Or perhaps buy SkyLeap for the Swooping Hawks. |
Do you find that you really make use of the spirit stone? It seems like when they hit my tank, It's pretty much jacked at that point and spirit stones aren't enough to save it.
Obviously, I could free up quite a few points by 1) combining the WG into one unit and eliminating one warlock. (I could also count them as troops there as well and take more elites. 2) Dump the Phoenix Lords for more traditional HQ units. Autarch on Jetbike was suggested to me.
I do agree that Skyleap comes in handy, but I'm rethinking the Hawks all together.
Last time I played, I used a slightly different list against Wolves... very armor-heavy, and got my guts handed to me. When I "debriefed" after the battle, the consensus was that I just didn't have enough high-strength weapons and I just needed to take more Heavy Support units such as Warwalkers w/ ML, BL, and SC, or Support Platforms with D-Cannons or Vibros.
My list that time was for 1850, and because of what I brought in the way of minis, I was scraping for points.
Avatar - (did ok for a while)
Eldrad w/ 3 Warlocks - (hung in there, but I don't think I got my money's worth)
6 Dragons, Exarch, Firepike TkHu, CrSh - (Have never failed me)
6 Scorps, Exarch, Claw, Stalk, Shadowstrike - (were useless in this game)
10 Wraithguard, Spiritseer, Conceal - (I love using these guys)
7 Pathfinders - (Decent, but not quite strong enough to pen tank front armour)
3 Jetbikes, ShCa - (Died on turn 1)
6 Hawks, Exarch, Sunrifle, Skyleap, Intercept - (Didn't jump in until turn 4 and it was all over but the shouting by that point.)
Falcon, ShCan, BrLa, Stones, StarE, VectorE, Holo (Took out one tank and harassed some troops)
Obviously, If I'm going to continue to face armies with things like 3 tanks, two dreads, speeders, etc... I'm going to need more than flashlights. Clearly I need more help.