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The Banished Ranger - December 1, 2006 03:03 AM (GMT)
Okay I understand how craftworlds are made out of Wraithbone but is the whole thing completely wraithbone or just the skeletal structure of it. Are there like patches of grass here and there our is everything WRAITHBONE :blink: And another thing, Is is shaped like a sphere aka planet or is it just a big flat wraithbone platform?

Reaper - December 1, 2006 05:02 AM (GMT)
ummm well as far as the shape goes it's neither of those. Just think of one big ass space ship pretty much. As far as what it's made of, i presume their would be some wildlife and such, but the majority of construction would be wraithbone

Inquisitor Liechtenstein - December 6, 2006 08:28 AM (GMT)
The Craftworlds have a solid wraithbone core as far as I remember, and I think it contains the Infinifty curcuit (not so sure on that bit) The rest of the craftworld is made out of wraithbone. To you question, look at it as a big building in a city, it is made out of concrete and metal, but thats jsut the structure. A craftworld is the same; it has a wraithbone structure, but it doesn't form every single thing.

Calaith - December 6, 2006 08:34 AM (GMT)
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ummm well as far as the shape goes it's neither of those. Just think of one big ass space ship pretty much.


Just wondering if you've got proof to back that up. I know that we are all entitled to our own opinions, but I've always liked to think of Craftworlds as artificial planets, indeed sphere shaped. I've never heard of it like a massive ship.


I believe the surface of the Craftworld is encrusted with spires, domes, and other constructs. However into the surface of the Craftworld are built tunnels to hide sacred sights, weaponry, and safe havens for the citizens to hide in if the Craftworld came under attack.

It is most deffinately supplied with artificially kept enviroments, as the story of Iyanden's plight speeks of how the Swooping Hawks fought against the Tyranid flying fellas through the jungles of the Craftworld.

Cal

Reaper - December 7, 2006 01:27 AM (GMT)
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Just wondering if you've got proof to back that up. I know that we are all entitled to our own opinions, but I've always liked to think of Craftworlds as artificial planets, indeed sphere shaped. I've never heard of it like a massive ship.


They are quite frequently described as giant spaceships, and from the artwork it is easier to imagine them as a ship than a sphere, although i can't think of any pictures off teh top of my head, i dunoo if they actually ever show a craftworld in it's entirety, although a giant sphere shaped ship is kinda impracticle

Captain Lithonius - December 7, 2006 03:30 AM (GMT)
I agree, the artwork suggests spaceship - or at least not a sphere.

Inquisitor Liechtenstein - December 7, 2006 07:54 AM (GMT)
Its not a sphere Cal. I've got a picture in a BFG download somewhere. Give me a few minutes and I'll post a link to it.

EDIT: Second page down:
http://www.specialist-games.com/assets/Yriels.pdf

Calaith - December 7, 2006 10:03 AM (GMT)

Well there you go. I stand corrected.

The Banished Ranger - December 8, 2006 12:30 AM (GMT)
Well maybe it varies from craftworld to craftworld. Personally I like the sphere idea. Maybe when the eldar built the craftworlds they made different kinds to see which ones would work better.

Inquisitor Liechtenstein - December 8, 2006 07:27 AM (GMT)
The initial craftworlds were trading vessels if I remember correctly. They have since been developed and formed into the current ones, witht he original somewhere inside it, but I would guess that most of them would have retained the shace-ship-ish design as they are spce going vessels.

Kyng - December 8, 2006 10:15 PM (GMT)
what ever shape it is doesn't really matter unless you plan on modelling one. in any case it is still a REALLY huge ship with masses of weapons

Calaith - December 9, 2006 08:13 AM (GMT)

I beg to differ. I think it i8s rather important if you plan on writing fluff on the craftworld specificaly. I'm not saying its super important, but it is a nice thing to know.

I've gladly adopted the space ship look of the craftworld, but I believe that there would be those that are more sphere shaped, perhaps less mobile craftworlds?

and @ Liechtenstein, whatever a shace-ship is...:P

The Banished Ranger - December 9, 2006 02:23 PM (GMT)
So mine will be a flat platform for my fluff. Unless eldar have some way of creating gravity then the sphere idea should be dropped.

Calaith - December 9, 2006 09:42 PM (GMT)
If Eldar couldn't create gravity, then how on earth would they all be kept on the floor of their ships? Same with Imperials and Chaos and Tau. They'd all be floating about inside the hull.

What about the Death Star? Its quite succesfully a sphere shape.

What I'm saying is that though it is probably more likely they come looking like oversized space ships, the sphere shape should not be totaly dropped or rideculed, it's still perfectly plausible.

Cal

Inquisitor Liechtenstein - December 9, 2006 10:59 PM (GMT)
Calaith Posted on Dec 9 2006, 07:13 PM
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and @ Liechtenstein, whatever a shace-ship is...  :P

Hey, I don't ridicule your spelling Xal

Calaith - December 10, 2006 11:25 AM (GMT)

touche' :P


now back on topic.

The Banished Ranger - December 10, 2006 01:54 PM (GMT)
Well the Death Star is as large as a moon so their could be a little gravity. I guess you're right about the Craftworld.

Reaper - December 10, 2006 02:34 PM (GMT)
Can't really use the Death Star as an example, that's from Star Wars, completely different laws of fluff and such, you'd need a 40k example to really have a plausible argument

The Banished Ranger - December 10, 2006 07:01 PM (GMT)
What about Starcraft.

Zerg=Tyranids
Protoss=Eldar
Terran=IG or SMs

Seems similar

Calaith - December 10, 2006 09:42 PM (GMT)

Although things are different in the 40K universe than they are in Star Wars. But the Death Star proves that the idea is deffinately plausible.

As an example from the 40K universe, the gravity engines on a battle ship, that keeps its crew from floating around. The same idea would be pressent on the Craftworld.

Perhaps the way the Wraithbone is naturally grown and created did cause the Craftworlds to have their own gravity pull? Perhaps the is a psychic charge that runs through the craftworld giving it certain energies (such as gravity.)

Who knows how it works. I'm not saying that all Craftworlds are deffinately a sphere. Some could certainly be platforms, or space vessel style creations. I'm simply saying that it is possible that some Craftworlds could be sphere shaped, and similar to a planet.

Cal

The Banished Ranger - December 11, 2006 02:09 AM (GMT)
How would someone model that? Maybe hang it by a string and put magnets so models won't fall off.

Farseer Saitha - January 8, 2007 09:28 PM (GMT)
I always imagined it as a moon-sized ship with forests and such, and the wraithbone core being large, with a molten centre which creates the gravity needed to keep the thing together...

The Banished Ranger - January 8, 2007 09:56 PM (GMT)
I guess you can't really know exactly what one is... One could be a sphere another a flat platform and another could be a giant ship. You just can't say that they're all shaped like one thing.

Inquisitor Liechtenstein - January 9, 2007 07:04 AM (GMT)
Well craftworlds have a wraithbone core, and I would assume that the bonesingers would be able to grow the additional wraithbone in such a way that it gives off its own gravity well.

Gruntlover - January 9, 2007 11:35 AM (GMT)
Hi,

There have been pictures prduced by Gamesworkshop of Craftworlds. Try putting it in to Google Images. They follow the same design rules of the smaller ships like Voidstalkers etc just a lot bigger.
But they can look like what ever you want. I always imagine them being shaped like Star Trek's Space Dock.
There are also the Blackstone Fortresses, they are the largest Eldar made structures we have pictures of, although they don't exactly look Eldar-ish.

GL.

The Banished Ranger - November 11, 2007 05:51 AM (GMT)
Well in my craftworld, the creater/bonesingers foolishly made a large flat platform with filometres of unguarded forests where animals are known to live. Yes, unplausible but I did say foolishly. :rolleyes:

darthken - November 13, 2007 05:55 AM (GMT)
I always imagined them as a half sphear like shape. with the rounded, "organic" looking part at the bottom and the flat part were all the buildins, space ports are built as such.




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