Hello my brethren,

My name is Tsavo and I'm new to these boards. I'm new to Dark Eldar as well. Haven't played 40K for over a year, basically got bored of my former army... Imperial Guard. Like em, they're neat. Not for me anymore.

So, I'm switching to Dark Eldar. They're more my style and I'm up for the challenge.

My question is this, as I'm sure it's been asked before. I know there's a new Eldar codex coming out in a few months, but how about DE? I have the old/current one and little else. So, I'm wondering if I should wait to build my new force until there's some updates, new models dare I wish, etc etc.

Any thoughts, rumors?

Tsavo

Well, as far as I've heard (and believe me, my knowledge on this subject is far from extensive), nothing, nothing at all has been mentioned, brought up, etc. In my opinion, the Dark Eldar Codex is probably the oldest codex, and is in deperate need of a revamp to bring it up to speed with the 4th Edition.

As to starting an army, its hard to say, because the codex could be re-released as soon as at the start of next year, or in a couple of years time, so its up to you. If I were you however, I might get any models that you really like (becasue you won't begrudge getting them once the codex is re-released) and from there build a combat patrol. That way you have a small force which you can use to get your barings on the codex, while still not going all out on models that could be re-released.

I'm going to make an estimate. I think the Orks will be redone next year after the Craftworld Eldar. You could have to wait as long as two years for the new Dark Eldar Codex, or a year and 6 months if Orks are released before them. At best you'll be waiting the better part of the next 12 months.

If there are any really nifty models you like in the current Dark Eldar range, then I suggest starting now, but only get a small force. Then when its re-released expand your force with the garunteed new models the Dark Eldar will have.

Cheers, Cal

there are still strong indications that the dark eldar are going to go the same way as the squats , the are the army which sells the least for GW

I believe thats simply because their the oldest and most out of date next to the Orks. looking back I have a few older White Dwarfs, and in their day the Dark Eldar were, obviously not as popular as some armies, but an army alot of people enjoyed collecting.

I think with a re-vamp and more modern look the Dark Eldar would be a really impressive force, and alot more people would consider them.I know I'd almost consider Dark Eldar in favour of the Craftworld Eldar if they were re-done.

Also, the Dark Eldar are to entwined with the background and fluff of the 41st Millenium. The Squats were not, and were rid of pretty early before GW really decided to write lots and lots of fluff for armies.

Not a bad theory in reality. When you look at the Medus V stats, the Dark Eldar are around 2500 games behind the next lowest game army, which is the orks.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more likely that prospect is. ALso with Medusa V, GW announced that each army was getting new bits and pieces (such as the Ork big Mech or Space Marine jump pack Chaplain), but has anybody noticed that there wern't any releases for that Dark Eldar?

Also, if anybody has the Cities of Death book, can you tell us if any of the pictures in it have the Dark Eldar, and if so, how many?

There are none, just goes to show how much they get... ignored can we say, because it certinly feels as if they are. <_<

Welcome to the Craftworld Father Vinyard.

I knwo what you mean about being ignored. From what I hear around the place (not here, other places) the Dark Eldar are looked upon as a very bad army tactically. This is by no means my own opinion, as I'm considering getting a foce sometime in the future, but it does seem to be the common concensus...

having played vs dark eldar I'd say they are a good army with some interesting stuff but they have baggage which is just not suitable for the target audience such as combat drugs , self multilation and torture these aspects would need a major revamp in any new codex. it does seem they are being ignored, mind you the necrons got nothing new in cities of death either

:lol: Would you look at that.

Well, at least eh Necrons have a slightly decent bit of fluff as to why they are involved. Has anybody noticed that the only reasons GW can come up with as to why the Dark Eldar are involved in anything is that they are there to capture slaves. At least the Necrons have a decent goal to strive for...

GW has already said that the Dark Eldar are not going anyplace, they are here to stay. As far as a new Dark Eldar Codex is concerned I think not till late 2008 early 2009 at the soonest if we do get one.

I'd have thought that those reason would bring in the EMO Gamers. Meh. I like Dark Eldar. I think that Fluff wise they are definately one of the coolest armies. All the books they appear in (not a great deal, if memory serves me) they get some of the cooler positions.

Of well, I don't really need a new Dex, as i'm going for a purely fluffy army, but still. Haveing a new 'dex might make me want to make a more... competative force...

**Cues up the evil music**

Could you PM me some of the books their in?

I can't wait to see some of the new stuff they will be getting.
Also, do mandrakes server much of any purpose? I was hoping they might get some new stuff with the new codex.

What the Dark Eldar need is some serious armour, they would benefit from that and atract more players to do a DE army. Might as wel add a Holofield to their vehicle upgrades in the next Dex.

na not more armour. if i want more armour i will lower my standards and get space marines :rolleyes:

more speed - as in inititive, fluff wise we are supposed to be even "quicker" than our elder cousins but that dosen't seem to be the case now ive had i look at their new dex.

and maybe our elites wyches could get a WS of 5 to make wych weapons much better in H2H.

Armour as in tanks is what i meant. maybe aFalcon like or a Vyper like tank.

BTW i made one myself based upon a Vyper, after seeing a Dart in Stargate Atlantis.

ok spacefrisian understood, now that's something im in 2 minds about

do we hope for some sort of vehicle with better armour than the tin foil we use now or do we hope for some sort of special rule in relation to our speed.

I'd say rule, special rules are always better. Take the Falcon which is armour 12 for the most part. Not bad, but still easily shot apart by Lascannons and Missile Launchers relatively easily, especially compared to the armour 14 Land Raiders. But Holo-Fields makes the tank A: more fluffy instead of being heavily armoured, and B: a lot harder to kill than a Land Raider in most circumstances.

Cal

yeah a decent special rule would help out a lot

an updated combat drugs list would be nice seeing as how i reckon only 2 options ever get used (extra attack and re-rolls)

and maybe if they dropped the incubi armour to 4+ and let them fleet of foot i might actually consider using them.

SPECIAL RULE
darkelder are extemely adept at assaulting from their raiders, quick and agile they hit the ground running. to represent this any DE model with a SV throw of 4+ or higher that assaults from a vehicle may assault 8".

what does eveyone reckon? to much, not enough
obviously if wyches roll the 12" assault move for combat drugs it will overide this rule.