Title: Peeling foils
PLUSt - January 2, 2006 11:03 PM (GMT)
Does anyone have any experience with peeling the foil off of magical cards?
Thanks.
imopen2 - January 2, 2006 11:09 PM (GMT)
i have done it with older (old format) foil lands and a few common/uncommon onslaught foils.
it works ok.
goblinmatt - January 2, 2006 11:31 PM (GMT)
Anyone else ever put a foil in a microwave?
PLUSt - January 2, 2006 11:32 PM (GMT)
Ok, my post was quite vague.
I am able to peel the foils, but I have to much trouble "starting the peel". The side I start on is always clearly marked. Anyway I can alleviate this problem?
Edit: What happens to foils in the microwave?
HarborMastr - January 2, 2006 11:37 PM (GMT)
It doesnt work well with post 8th cards as the foil is ingrained into the picture.
EDIT: I am going to try it right now....
HarborMastr - January 2, 2006 11:39 PM (GMT)
How do you start the peel?
Pip - January 3, 2006 12:30 AM (GMT)
goblinmatt - January 3, 2006 01:18 AM (GMT)
I'll try it soon.
When you put a foil in a microwave it starts to spark blue, then bursts into flames.
EnialisLiadon - January 3, 2006 02:02 AM (GMT)
That sounds like a notsosmart thing to do then...
If you peel, say a Mirrodin foil, would you get a blank card? If so, I might get some foil commons or something to make actually decent power proxies...
FallenOmnipotent - January 3, 2006 02:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (EnialisLiadon @ Jan 2 2006, 09:02 PM) |
That sounds like a notsosmart thing to do then...
If you peel, say a Mirrodin foil, would you get a blank card? If so, I might get some foil commons or something to make actually decent power proxies... |
You do get a blank card. It's hard to maintain a smooth peel though. But when you glue print outs back down on top of it, it looks bad. To make proxies, it's all about pixilation. Also, what I do, is slightly bigger than the acctual card (card size excluding the border on poth the proxie and the card) then cut out along the part where there are 2 lins between the think black border and a thin line. That's how I ude to do it anyways. Most people think my proxies are real.
As for the microwave thing, that sounds fun...but it make break the microwave... hmm.... is it worth it? :wtf:
HarborMastr - January 3, 2006 02:28 AM (GMT)
Hey, hey. My power proxies kick ass. I will post them when I get a camera.
I have been on a sharpie spree ever since that blacking out thing that Hi-Val posted.
PLUSt - January 3, 2006 02:51 AM (GMT)
Yea, I've had way more success with the newer foils.
I'm going to practice proxy making sometime over the weekend.
Phantom Ogre - January 3, 2006 02:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (FallenOmnipotent @ Jan 2 2006, 07:21 PM) |
| As for the microwave thing, that sounds fun... |
Try putting an egg in a microwave! :smirk:
imopen2 - January 3, 2006 03:02 AM (GMT)
the microwave company says it is a nono.
and yeah, fallen's proxies look sooo good. you need to look at them close to notice they arn' real.
i was asked like 4-5 times if i was fully powered :smirk:
EnialisLiadon - January 3, 2006 03:58 AM (GMT)
Print-out are for losers. It's just that my current proxies suck. For each mox, I have a 4th edition basic land (with "TAP: add _ to your mana pool" in the text box) and a crude drawing of the mox it represents.
That's just weak.
PLUSt - January 3, 2006 10:16 AM (GMT)
I want someone to template proxies of cards with different pictures. The art on some cards is so drab.
For instance, this should soooooooo be wasteland:

Edit: Thoughts? I have a problem with how pixellated the baby looks. Maybe use a different picture?
Veru - January 3, 2006 11:44 AM (GMT)

It's a bit bigger, so it won't need much stretching. Also, you could try putting it on a background so you wouldn't even have to stretch it at all.
HarborMastr - January 3, 2006 12:50 PM (GMT)
lol, i really need to print up a proxy tendrils.....
you--> :pwnd <--me
PLUSt - January 3, 2006 09:53 PM (GMT)
It would be quite nice to get something like that on one of those crazy shifty things that you turn and the picture changes and if you turn it completly it shows something.
Fuck i do not know what they are called =/
What are those things called that you can tilt and the picture moves slightly?
Lyle H - January 3, 2006 10:03 PM (GMT)
using any means of proxies have any sort of modified thickness suck. It messes up your shuffling and I want my testing shuffle results to be the same in a tournament.
imopen2 - January 4, 2006 12:25 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PLUSt @ Jan 3 2006, 04:53 PM) |
It would be quite nice to get something like that on one of those crazy shifty things that you turn and the picture changes and if you turn it completly it shows something.
Fuck i do not know what they are called =/
What are those things called that you can tilt and the picture moves slightly? |
a hologram? :smirk:
PLUSt - January 4, 2006 12:35 AM (GMT)
Yea yea yea.
I was just thinking about those things because I was looking at all of my old pogs and I found one of my 'slammers' that had a sticker with one of those.
Phantom Ogre - January 4, 2006 12:57 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PLUSt @ Jan 3 2006, 05:35 PM) |
| I was looking at all of my old pogs |
Pogs!
SnK-Arcbound - January 4, 2006 03:24 AM (GMT)
Pogs were huge in canada when they came out.
Phantom Ogre - January 4, 2006 03:33 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SnK-Arcbound @ Jan 3 2006, 08:24 PM) |
| Pogs were huge in canada when they came out. |
Hence my pog collection. :rolleyes:
FallenOmnipotent - January 4, 2006 04:35 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| using any means of proxies have any sort of modified thickness suck. It messes up your shuffling and I want my testing shuffle results to be the same in a tournament. |
Foil proxies. Get high power nail polish remover. Get cotton. Dip. Rub on a foil (pre-8thE is easier). It takes a while at first. If it still doesn't work, then you don't have strong enough polish remover. Then your left with a foil card. Get a sharpie and have fun. I've made a few. I deleted the scans when I sold them all though... I think they look pretty nice. Just gotta be good with the sharpie.
...Yeah, I'm aware foils are slightly different in thinkness, but it would be the same as playing a normal foil.
That baby pic. Use photoshop to to cut around the baby and paste it on a transparant background. Make sure it doesn't get pixilated. Use "image size" to make it smaller if needed for better resolution. Then I'm thinking either ancestral recall (and cut out the guy in the cornor, copy/paste some background over it and fade the baby on top with an outter glow. Or maybe tolarian academy? I would do it myself, but I can't use my adobe atm.
EDIT: I know this is a bit off topic but here are some examples of what adobe can do:

I also made imopen2's avater...it looks kinda cheezy with all the outter glow...but I chouldn't get tinker to fade in with Recall very well.
HarborMastr - January 4, 2006 06:42 AM (GMT)
Does it actually rub the text off of the cards as well? Or just the picture and leave text and foily goodness?
FallenOmnipotent - January 4, 2006 04:38 PM (GMT)
If you just carelessly rub, it will take off all paint meaning the text to. You will be left with a foil-faced mtg card.
I'm sure if your careful enough, and paient enough, using a q-tip, you could go around the text etc. Someone I know does that and leaves the land symbols on foil lands.
EnialisLiadon - January 4, 2006 10:36 PM (GMT)
Would the nail polish remover idea work to rub off the paint and text on a non-foil card? If so, proxy making just got easier for me; eschewing this peeling foils nonsense...
FallenOmnipotent - January 4, 2006 10:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (EnialisLiadon @ Jan 4 2006, 05:36 PM) |
| Would the nail polish remover idea work to rub off the paint and text on a non-foil card? |
Nope. Non-foil = 100% paper = absorbs the nail polish remover; so then is doesn't work...you just get water damage on a card.
It works on a foil card b/c of the foil. It's water-resistant (to a degree at least) which alows the remover to eat away at the paint. When doing this, you should use gloves b/c nail polish remover is not healthy for the flesh. It'll make it all dry and cracked.
How do I know this? Do I where nail polish? No, my mom works at a nail place (doing manecures + pedicures and stuff like that.) You need a license to do this and she's not fluent in english so I had to help her study. So yeah, have trouble with your cuticles? What are hang nails and rice nails? Are acrilic nails healthy? Feel free to ask. I may or may not answer that last one. The answer kinda hurts my mom's business :ph43r:.
lol. Anyways I've tried Paint thiner, paint remover, rubbing alcohol, methal alcohol and plenty of other things. But in the end, a REALLY strong nail polish remover works best. Note that my friend tried this and it didn't work for him. I don't know why but I'm guessing it's because I have industrial strength nail polish remover (from my mom's work.) So don't yell at me when you go through the embaresment of buying it at target then it don't working for you. :smirk:
Lyle H - January 4, 2006 11:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (EnialisLiadon @ Jan 4 2006, 05:36 PM) |
| Would the nail polish remover idea work to rub off the paint and text on a non-foil card? If so, proxy making just got easier for me; eschewing this peeling foils nonsense... |
Why would you test with a foil card if you are not going to be playing when in real life. It will shuffle differently.