Title: Smmemycakes' Latest Article
Description: Arcbound Virus
tidal kraken - September 5, 2005 05:20 PM (GMT)
Copy/pasted from TMD:
Less than a year ago, Mike Long released a deck dubbed The Suicide Virus. The immediate reaction to this deck was incredulity. Most readers dismissed the deck as “a pile.” A few players tinkered with it before moving onto something else. Regardless of what people thought at the time, no major structural improvements to the deck have been published since. Since then, I have been furiously working in my secret Vintage laboratory pouring creative energies into improving this deck and today I'm set to unveil my latest creation.
Throw the deck together, play around with it and have fun. The deck is quite strong and it will test your own skills at the same time.
Anyone read this?
Phantom Ogre - September 5, 2005 05:30 PM (GMT)
Here’s a decklist for reference:
| QUOTE (Smmenen) |
//Arcborn Virus, by Stephen Menendian //Downloaded from StarCityGames.com 4 City of Brass 4 Skullclamp 3 Arcbound Ravager 4 Artificer's Intuition 4 Myr Servitor 1 Mystical Tutor 4 Thoughtcast 1 Aether Spellbomb 4 Disciple of the Vault 1 Vault of Whispers 1 Glimmervoid 1 Chrome Mox 4 Seat of the Synod 3 Ornithopter 1 Lotus Petal 1 Demonic Tutor 1 Time Walk 1 Ancestral Recall 1 Black Lotus 1 Mana Vault 1 Mana Crypt 1 Sol Ring 1 Mox Sapphire 1 Mox Ruby 1 Mox Jet 1 Mox Pearl 1 Mox Emerald 3 Cloud of Faeries 1 Crop Rotation 1 Yawgmoth's Will 1 Tolarian Academy 1 Vampiric Tutor 1 Gemstone Mine |
PLUSt - September 5, 2005 05:58 PM (GMT)
APOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX
Pip - September 5, 2005 07:19 PM (GMT)
God I hope this is a humor article.
EnialisLiadon - September 5, 2005 07:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Pip @ Sep 5 2005, 02:19 PM) |
| God I hope this is a humor article. |
You KNOW people will be playing until they realize it blows.
tidal kraken - September 5, 2005 07:40 PM (GMT)
@POgre, is that Steve's, or Mike Long's from a while ago?
Lightning edit: Nvm, I reread your post.
Phantom Ogre - September 5, 2005 07:48 PM (GMT)
Well, apparently the list I quoted is 59 cards. Can someone tell us what the final card is?
tidal kraken - September 5, 2005 07:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Phantom Ogre @ Sep 5 2005, 02:48 PM) |
| Well, apparently the list I quoted is 59 cards. Can someone tell us what the final card is? |
Maybe a 4th cloud? I dunno.
Phantom Ogre - September 5, 2005 08:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tidal kraken @ Sep 5 2005, 12:51 PM) |
| Maybe a 4th cloud? I dunno. |
No, he said you would have to read the article to find out, so it's probably his secret tech or something.
tidal kraken - September 5, 2005 08:41 PM (GMT)
Phantom Ogre - September 5, 2005 08:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tidal kraken @ Sep 5 2005, 01:41 PM) |
| I swear. Some people. |
I know what you mean. People on The Source and to a lesser extent, TMD seem to have something against me and my decks. :wtf:
Anyway, the missing card was Mana Crypt. I'll edit it into the list I quoted.
tidal kraken - September 5, 2005 10:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Phantom Ogre @ Sep 5 2005, 03:55 PM) |
The Source
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I don't actually have an account there. Any site that has spatulaoftheages as a legacy adept is................bad.
Phantom Ogre - September 5, 2005 10:42 PM (GMT)
The Source is a lot like a cult. :shifty:
SnK-Arcbound - September 6, 2005 12:28 AM (GMT)
Lol, you pawned him with the I'm only 16 and you shouldn't as hell better not have a credit card. Go premium? Only if I get a happy ending after each article, and it better be by who wrote the article. Or they mail you free cards or something. But I'm going with the have them suck my dick option.
Phantom Ogre - September 6, 2005 03:44 AM (GMT)
Nobody ever actually said the missing card was Mana Crypt. waSP made a hypothesis that it was Mana Crypt, but that was just a guess.
Also, smmenen says the full article is 18 pages, which is really kind of pathetic when you think about it!
EnialisLiadon - September 6, 2005 06:01 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Phantom Ogre @ Sep 5 2005, 10:44 PM) |
| Also, smmenen says the full article is 18 pages, which is really kind of pathetic when you think about it! |
...Why? That's kind of a lot of material and while he's not the most concise guy around, he's not prone to writing articles of pure bullshit.
Or so I believe.
UniversalSnip - September 6, 2005 07:20 AM (GMT)
Listen to this beatdown from the SCG forums:
| QUOTE |
| Aside from the inviability of the deck that the article focused on, mainly due to being no better than other combo decks of the format and susceptibility to disruption, there were flaws in the deck in other areas as well. On turn three of the first goldfish after the strategy section of the article. You play yawgmoth's will yet continue drawing cards off of the skullclamp, a trigger that requires the dying creature to hit the grave. I would normally dismiss this as an oversight and not even mention it, but you came off (to me at least) to be a bit arrogant in the beginning of the article, preaching testing of the deck until we understood the synergys of it. Yoe even mention the interaction between yawg will and DoV, so I was disappointed that you didnt take your own advice and test the deck a bit more before being paid to write an article about it. |
Right Up Right Left Down A
BUNTALITY
tidal kraken - September 7, 2005 11:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PipWizo) |
| When you have to debate the meaning of viability to get people to play your deck |
| QUOTE (mercurydragon450) |
| The deck sucks. I finished it for you. |
HarborMastr - September 8, 2005 12:50 PM (GMT)
The retardation capabilities of people amaze me........
Adam - September 9, 2005 06:53 AM (GMT)
God, no one is ever going to listen.
This deck is the biggest thing to come off the Wizo's board. Kraken, Pip, Veru and the creater NEWAGER have talked it to death. Long comes in, steals the tech, calls it his own, and then Smememememememenenenenenendian decides to go with it because he sucks long's dick on the side (see the banning release notes for burning wish and the long.dec that is featured, guess who "built" it!).
Fuck this shit. The deck is crap. We went at it at all different angles and it never amounted to anything, and that was BEFORE you had shit like pithing needle and all you had to worry about was null rod.
EDIT - You know, the more Steve talks, the more his theories show their true bullshit nature. Its like he makes up for lack of meaning with verbage.
EnialisLiadon - September 9, 2005 08:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Adam @ Sep 9 2005, 01:53 AM) |
| EDIT - You know, the more Steve talks, the more his theories show their true bullshit nature. Its like he makes up for lack of meaning with verbage. |
QFTx10
tidal kraken - September 9, 2005 09:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (EnialisLiadon @ Sep 9 2005, 03:44 PM) |
| QUOTE (Adam @ Sep 9 2005, 01:53 AM) | | EDIT - You know, the more Steve talks, the more his theories show their true bullshit nature. Its like he makes up for lack of meaning with verbage. |
QFTx10
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QQFTxinfinity.
@dralock: So lemme get this straight: newager, pip, veru designed the deck, Mike Long stole it from them, and Steve "Look at me I'm Mr. Vintage" Menendian "modified" it?
Pip - September 9, 2005 10:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tidal kraken @ Sep 9 2005, 01:19 PM) |
| QUOTE (EnialisLiadon @ Sep 9 2005, 03:44 PM) | | QUOTE (Adam @ Sep 9 2005, 01:53 AM) | | EDIT - You know, the more Steve talks, the more his theories show their true bullshit nature. Its like he makes up for lack of meaning with verbage. |
QFTx10
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QQFTxinfinity.
@dralock: So lemme get this straight: newager, pip, veru designed the deck, Mike Long stole it from them, and Steve "Look at me I'm Mr. Vintage" Menendian "modified" it?
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The fuck are yo talking about? I didn't even play T1 when veru and Newager designed it.
PLUSt - September 9, 2005 10:47 PM (GMT)
Did they call it virus :cool:
No?
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT YOU AINT GOT NOTHING ON LONG.
Pip - September 9, 2005 11:00 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PLUSt @ Sep 9 2005, 02:47 PM) |
Did they call it virus :cool:
No?
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT YOU AINT GOT NOTHING ON LONG. |
yeah...they did.
Phantom Ogre - September 9, 2005 11:01 PM (GMT)
Damn, Pip beat me to the point. :embarrass:
Veru - September 10, 2005 02:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Pip @ Sep 9 2005, 11:00 PM) |
| QUOTE (PLUSt @ Sep 9 2005, 02:47 PM) | Did they call it virus :cool:
No?
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT YOU AINT GOT NOTHING ON LONG. |
yeah...they did.
|
That's what I have an especially deep loathing for, actually. The deck was a pile of shit, but it at least had a cool name. But now Semen Man and Mike Long had to steal that, too.
PLUSt - September 10, 2005 02:26 AM (GMT)
You should totally call them out on it.
Like, on tmd.
imopen2 - September 10, 2005 03:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PLUSt @ Sep 9 2005, 09:26 PM) |
You should totally call them out on it.
Like, on tmd. |
that would go over well. :rolleyes:
EnialisLiadon - September 10, 2005 03:49 AM (GMT)
Just like that guy who wrote an article on how he invented keeper... :rolleyes:
TraptUnderIce - September 10, 2005 04:13 AM (GMT)
I remember when I wanted to play this deck. Steve add's CoF and now it's great? I doubt it. Veru and newager designed it and here was their list newager sent me:
4 Disiple of the Vault
4 Myr Enforcer
3 Frogmight
4 Atog
4 Fling
4 Arcbound Ravenger
4 Arcbound Worker
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Timetwiser
1 Tinker
1 Memory Jar
1 Windfall
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Wheel of Fortune
7 SoLoMoxen
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Grim Monolith
4 City of Brass
4 Glimmervoid
1 Great Furnace
1 Vault of Whispers
1 Seat of the Synod
I always wanted to see this deck run Atog and Berserk but wtf do I know?
Phantom Ogre - September 10, 2005 04:20 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (TraptUnderIce @ Sep 9 2005, 09:13 PM) |
| Steve add's CoF and now it's great |
That just about sums it up! :rolleyes:
EnialisLiadon - September 10, 2005 04:26 AM (GMT)
Heh, that REALLY doesn't help the already existing "add 2-3 diff. cards and call it a new deck" stereotype of Meandeck...
Phantom Ogre - September 10, 2005 04:36 AM (GMT)
Steve is now promoting Trix in Classic! :nono:
Adam - September 10, 2005 06:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tidal kraken @ Sep 9 2005, 09:19 PM) |
| QUOTE (EnialisLiadon @ Sep 9 2005, 03:44 PM) | | QUOTE (Adam @ Sep 9 2005, 01:53 AM) | | EDIT - You know, the more Steve talks, the more his theories show their true bullshit nature. Its like he makes up for lack of meaning with verbage. |
QFTx10
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QQFTxinfinity.
@dralock: So lemme get this straight: newager, pip, veru designed the deck, Mike Long stole it from them, and Steve "Look at me I'm Mr. Vintage" Menendian "modified" it?
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A bit late but whatever.
I said we talked it to death, but the actual design was newager as the primary and Veru as the interested badass. He has every right to be hot about it. Its crap that someone would take ravagers, combo pieces and fling and call it their own. If the basic mechanics of the deck are the same, then you need to credit the creators. Period.
lordmayhem - September 10, 2005 12:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (TraptUnderIce @ Sep 10 2005, 04:13 AM) |
| I always wanted to see this deck run Atog and Berserk but wtf do I know? |
It has 4 Atogs...
imopen2 - September 10, 2005 02:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lordmayhem @ Sep 10 2005, 07:36 AM) |
| QUOTE (TraptUnderIce @ Sep 10 2005, 04:13 AM) | | I always wanted to see this deck run Atog and Berserk but wtf do I know? |
It has 4 Atogs...
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lol? :P
Phantom Ogre - September 10, 2005 10:14 PM (GMT)
I hate Stephen Menendian! :knight
Arkeld - September 27, 2005 09:26 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Adam @ Sep 9 2005, 08:53 AM) |
God, no one is ever going to listen.
This deck is the biggest thing to come off the Wizo's board. Kraken, Pip, Veru and the creater NEWAGER have talked it to death. Long comes in, steals the tech, calls it his own, and then Smememememememenenenenenendian decides to go with it because he sucks long's dick on the side (see the banning release notes for burning wish and the long.dec that is featured, guess who "built" it!).
Fuck this shit. The deck is crap. We went at it at all different angles and it never amounted to anything, and that was BEFORE you had shit like pithing needle and all you had to worry about was null rod.
EDIT - You know, the more Steve talks, the more his theories show their true bullshit nature. Its like he makes up for lack of meaning with verbage. |
QFT.