Well...this took a while. Retro tells me it reminds him of Athena. Just a bit I guess. It's missing the owl though =/


For the DA members (Mature content, so regular non-members cant see it)

http://crushinlionheart.deviantart.com/art/Amazona-64284243

I like the boobie ;)

Artemis, a Greek good in 300?

The last two fingers in her left hand are too big. The left arm that sustain the spear looks too skinny and out of proportion with the rest of the body. The helmet needs more volume, It looks flat. More tone degradations can do the job. The spear needs to project a shadow in the opposite direction of the light source.

The androgynous and ambiguous appearance of this figure could work well but the female posture suggest otherwise. The face must resemble a female not a male.

uh last time i checked artemis used a bow, not a spear, and she did not look like this at all.....................

as for the rest of the comment, i think you're the only one who said something about the fingers, they look great to me, the same goes to the forearm, which half of it is behind the spear, thus the skinny looking arm. the helmet doesn't look bad a at all, if all it just needs a new crest, though i kinda like the shape of this one.......

as for the light source, the problem is the sun behind it and the light source on the figure coming from the other side, i don't think any amount of shadow will fix that, the sun must go.

There is something not right with the breast and the surrounding area, but for the rest, it's fucking great.

Good job.

Santiago: The only things that need work are the helmet's crest and the light source. Everything about the figure is pretty much just like the stock picture.

Hellstorm: I dont know what to say to that? can you point it out exactly?

Well, it's sort of really stretched out to the left. That's all I can really say about it.

Disproportionally stretched.

I stated a question mark "?" at the end for a reason. Please read again the statement. Did I mention 300? :/.

And yes you may differ but the picture shows otherwise. The fingers are deformed and the face resembles a male. The mammal gland is out of proportion too with the rest of the human body. The theme of 300 is a lackluster due to the saturation and repetition of such images in the media.

Look the sun direction and the light sources, They do not match.
It is supposed that the contour of the figure must be with white touches and the figure dark. That is if we are going to follow classical lines.
If not then everything follows. Shadows could be displayed arbitrary without any coherence at all.

If we are going to consider deformations then everything you pasted on that canvas is acceptable. The problem with the picture is that it follows some rules and break others. There is no consistency on the main subject and the human figure. This may be a commercial picture like everything else in the market, not a painting or a composition with a fixed theme.

You follow human proportion or break the rules to make a statement. This picture does none correctly. The female looks uninteresting and shallow. It requires more contrast and dynamism. It is a compromise of a dull sterile pornographic photo shooting in Play Boy magazine or a lame sticker for a shirt.

But since art is subjective then we can accept everything as acceptable.

actually hellstorm now that you say that it's not the boob, it's the navel. didn't notice it, because I wasn't crituqing it or anything...but the navel isn't centered.....I don't think...

as with the light source, I don't think that it's 'wrong' because fact of the matter is, if lus made this picture with the l,ight source as the focus, the woman in the picture would be totally shaded, and you couldn't see anything. Santiago, the way he chose to do it is an artistic choice, it wasn't based on realism.

but honestly....santiago, you're looking WAY too much into this, instead of enjoying it. Alot of what you said....well, that's up to the artist in how he wants to portray it.

Read the above comment.

If art is a matter of tastes then there is no need for improvements. The purpose of any constructive critique is to improve things that can be done better. Lusvell made other works that shows more talent than this in reference to the human figure.

Santiago, the day I give a damn about your opinion, it would mean I'm way too desperate. After your little stunt with the Jaguar painting at GT, any criticism from you is completely null.

But for the non-believers, here's the stock picture, http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs17/f/2007/168...ranum_stock.jpg

ZL: Yea, I fucked up on the light source, I'll go back and fix that later on. The problem is mainly the position of the sun and the sky.

And yea, after seeing closely, the nipple is slightly centered, unlike the source picture.

Note that, even if I heavily based it on that stock, does not mean it had to be equal. Women warriors are NOT delicate, and are tenfold stronger and more muscle-looking than regular women. Therefore the faint buffness of my lady.

As you wish.

The stunt with the jaguar was a transparent flame...in case you didn't notice. Please, use your head. :/.

And thanks for the picture, it proves even more my points.

Look again the light source, the arm and the fingers...

Lus: nipple? no, ho...talking about the navel.....the belly button. ;)

Santiago: I've got to wonder...why also do you keeping bringing up 300? this picture has nothing to do with 300
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wow....I've seen that stock picture before. haha. yea, the women in the stock photo has kind of an odd stance. :D

immediate precedence.....

Yep, I see it now, it's the navel. Even the stock looks out of proportion... damn.

Let us see a revision of that work lusvell. Post a new actualized picture of that painting.

I want to see the final product.

damn santiago, are you blind? first, the artemis comment, if you didnt type it correctly dont expect me to guess what you wanted to say...........secondly, i had already mentioned the light source and the sun, he knows he has to move the light source......

as for the anatomy, the belly button is slightly moved to the right, no biggie, the stock pic shows the stance is possible, so i guess that ends with the problem about the boob/navel thing.......

as for the rest of the anatomy, there's nothing wrong with it, the face is just fine, if you find any resemblance with a male face you might want to get your eyes checked...........or you're gay and see men everywhere XD

as for the rest of your "critique", please, there are better ways to sound "refined" and "intelligent," but mindless bashing is not one of them, i'm pretty sure not even you believed what you said.............how many times did you compare it with 300? who ever said it was a 300 meme to begin with? your critique = nonsense/flaming.

Point by point.

Please retro...it was clear :/.<----don't make me put again that face.

Lusvell must be working on it. So there is no need to mention the problem again.

Another one made the same comment that I did about such deformations. The reproduction seems that suffered a shortening. The proportions of the picture figure does not match Lusvell composition. He can project the image to the wall or canvas and sketch over it. That is one way to have accurate proportions. But if he wants to interpret the figure then that is another can of worms.

False. Look the picture and the image. She looks like a transsexual.

Sorry, I am not homosexual. You may ask any other women if you do not believe me.

False.

Critique ! = Bashing.

Are you familiar with a term called precedent? For me it Looks like a Greek good in 300.

Note:
Retro la critica de arte tiene que ser solida y agresiva. Es bien obvio cuando pico a lusvell y lo critico. La diferencia es diametral. No se porque usan este pretexto como excusa? En la critica soy serio. No tengo que tomar esta oportunidad para adjudicar un boycott al trabajo de lusvell.

Acuerdate, yo tambien trabajo en arte y estoy acostumbrado a la critica dura. Es parte del deporte.

But if you do not want my assessment then I will restrain myself by not doing such comments.

santiago...it's your personal opinion that it looks like a man face. you do realize this, right?

cause....personal opinion isn't a critique.

Another thing about the proportions.....I'm going to guess Lusvell did this on a tablet. You don't know how hard it is too draw/sketch/paint a good straight line on a tablet I'm guessing. Getting those fingers to get 'precisely proportioned' would be hard.

at any rate LOL at your personal opinion of the man's face. It's your opinion...... XD





also, there were no greek gods in 300 either...lus stated that this 'reminded' him of a Athena...but she wasn;t in 300.

Whatever...

Lusvell made some drawings, this is not his only style. He had a variety of techniques. And besides, I highly doubt that. He knows how to draw.

If you are still hunged on the damn proportions, take the image and draw over it yourself. Compare it to my piece here and see how right or wrong you are.

thats cheating, that's only good if he were painting a mural..........

"If you are still hunged on the damn proportions, take the image and draw over it yourself. Compare it to my piece here and see how right or wrong you are."


Seriusly lusvell...

Yes, seriously santiago. I dont know if you are more butthurt by the fact that your whole critic was based on proportions are are more than fine, or that simply you are wrong and you cant take it.

Nevertheless, stop being a troll. You may get many chances over at GT, but not here, so knock it off.

In no way does that look like a man, at all.

I think you did an awesome job on it, the fingers are hardly noticeable and apparently it's fucking hard, so great job.

Also, it's not easy to draw a good nipple, so great job on that, too.


BTW, wasn't Santiago already kicked from OTTS?

thats pretty excellent. i like it. I don't know what your problem is santiago but theres no need to fly off the handle and go on a rant consolidating other people's criticisms.
by the way, are you by chance a harsh realm fan?