This Is How A Crash In A Field Looks Like, This just recently happened in Indonesia

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but we all know that planes don't vaporize...

The ever-creative debunkers claim the ground was "soft earth" due to it having been an open cast mine at one time. So, like, you have to imagine a plane going into a plate of whipped cream @ >500mph, or something...

I was just about to start a thread and saw yours-

Here is the video of the Indonesian plane crash-

VIDEO-March 8 2007 -Indonesian Plane crash

After watching the continuous smokes/debris in this video, its unbelievable how shanksville,PA could be a plane crash site.

I know the debunkers talk about soft soil and 45 angle, but there is such a huge difference of debris/smoke in both the crash sites.

If the ground at Shanksville was so soft how come people were able to walk around on it right after the plane crashed? The Mythers like to compare the Flight 93 crash to the Valuejet crash in the Everglades. Excuse me, people had to get to that crash site by boat.

This "soft earth" theory is hoax.

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ValuJet Flight 592 Crash site - May, 1996


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Absolutely. Remember that this plane buried itself leaving an 8' deep crater while simultaneously shattering into thousands of pieces "no bigger than a phone book" and spreading over an 8 mile radius while leaving 90% of the plane inside of the crater for them to recover.


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Wait a sec... I've never looked into Flight 93... please tell me they recovered all the bodies from that crash? They did, right?

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Einsteen, this is possibly THE worst apples to oranges comparison in history and I'm a little suprised that no one thinks so. This plane did not crash in a field - it ran off a runway after landing and ended up in a field.

If there is something that can be taken away from this "crash". It's that once the aluminum hull of an airliner is on fire and is allowed to burn, it'll rapidly disintigrate, contrary to Einsteens assertion.

This Garuda 737 crash is one example. There are 2 others.

Air France 358 after plane skidded to a halt following a runway overrun.
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Air France 358 after fire was extinguished.
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An Air France 747 Freighter after a brake fire was unsuccessfully extinguished following landing.
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AS you can see, the hulls of both aircraft all but disappeared. None of these planes "crashed" in the strict sense of the word.

If you want a fair equivalent of United 93 - United 585, Valujet 592, Emery 17, Air Midwest 5481 and Payne Stewarts Learjet are ok examples.

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But the rest showed one thing different, they left LOTS more debris than is Shanks and fire damage consistent w/ a plane crash UNLIKE Shanks did.

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But the rest showed one thing different, they left LOTS more debris than is Shanks and fire damage consistent w/ a plane crash UNLIKE Shanks did.

If they left LOTS more debris and fire damage, you should be able to show the photos of the all of this debris and fire damage(I'll give a pass on fire damage on VJ 592 and Stewarts plane) and identify be able to identify the parts(ie tail, wings, nose, fuselage, engine, landing gear, etc..)



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People parts.

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Any idea where I found these photos Killtown?

Wow, you posted photos of planted evidence.

It seems like faking plane crashes are pretty easy. Create a hole, don't worry about not burning the grass around it, make wing impression afterwards for later aerial shots, burn most of the forest by the next day, and spread debris around and call is a plane crash.

Wow, how easy.

Do you Randi's think you could spot a staged plane crash scene?

United 585 debris and crater. Even though this plane was doing 250 mph less than United 93 when it impacted, it certainly didnt leave much more behind than United 93. You'd be hard pressed to find anything of Valujet 592, I dont think they identifed more than 40 of the passengers. I havent seen a single piece of identifiable wreckage. Conspiracy?


United 585

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And you wonder why people make fun of you and call you disinfo, shill, etc...

Where's the Wile E. Coyote wing impression from the United 585 crash? Oh, I guess it didn't crash into "soft soil", huh? Nice big surrounding burn mark around the impact point, huh?

And the pics show debris constitent w/ plane crashes, not staging it.

And you wonder why people make fun of you and call you disinfo, shill, etc...

So if I was a disinfo/shill, then that would mean I'm on your side, right?

And you wonder why people make fun of you and call you disinfo, shill, etc...

So if I was a disinfo/shill, then that would mean I'm on your side, right?

No. Using common sense, logic, and reasoning would mean you're on my side.

You mean spinning, inventing physics, and ad-hominem attacks?

You mean spinning, inventing physics, and ad-hominem attacks?

Inventing physics like saying the WTC planes should've bounced off?

Nope. That was you, not me.