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OCMARK - May 17, 2007 05:58 PM (GMT)
Here is a pic of a fire "gutted" bulding still standing




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chucksheen - May 17, 2007 07:05 PM (GMT)
Welcome and thanks for joining. Great 1st post.

Notice the color of the smoke.

Where is this and how long was it on fire?

Do you think if it got hit by a jumbo jet and collapsed that it would fall symetrically and near free fall speed? I don't.

illuminate - May 20, 2007 11:00 AM (GMT)
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Do you think if it got hit by a jumbo jet and collapsed that it would fall symetrically and near free fall speed? I don't.
Remind me, symmetrically in troofer speak means hitting nearby buildings, right? And "near" free fall speed is what you call the speed once earlier claims of freefall/faster than free fall are discredited?

genghis6199 - May 20, 2007 03:56 PM (GMT)
notice how you can actually see the fire. it's not like imaginary.

Architect - May 20, 2007 11:37 PM (GMT)
I'd be interested to know more about that example. For instance is it steel or concrete framed? How extensive was the fire on each floorplate (we can see that the portion of the structure on the left seems unaffected)? What fireproofing system was in place?

e^n - May 21, 2007 01:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (genghis6199 @ May 20 2007, 10:56 AM)
notice how you can actually see the fire. it's not like imaginary.

Wait, are you now claiming the fires at the towers didn't even exist? What about all the photographs from near collapse like this:

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Avenger - May 21, 2007 03:27 AM (GMT)
What forum are you in? He's talking about WTC 7. And no, he's not claiming there were no fires in 7. He's saying they were not as extensive as people have claimed.

e^n - May 21, 2007 05:35 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Avenger @ May 20 2007, 10:27 PM)
What forum are you in? He's talking about WTC 7. And no, he's not claiming there were no fires in 7. He's saying they were not as extensive as people have claimed.

If he's talking about WTC7 he's calling firefighters liars, which is crazy. The firefighters themselves stated that WTC7 had 'very heavy fire' on 'many floors' if my memory is correct. You can't really ask for a more authoritative source on the situation (plus fires were left to burn for hours).

Architect - May 21, 2007 02:45 PM (GMT)
I find myself still wondering what this building in the OP is, and where we can get more details about the fire.

illuminate - May 21, 2007 04:31 PM (GMT)
Yeah, and I'd like to know which part was hit by a plane or a collapsing building. That would help.

Unless someone is suggesting that the official story is that all burning buildings always collapse, which would be hilarious.

Avenger - May 23, 2007 12:46 AM (GMT)
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If he's talking about WTC7 he's calling firefighters liars, which is crazy. The firefighters themselves stated that WTC7 had 'very heavy fire' on 'many floors' if my memory is correct. You can't really ask for a more authoritative source on the situation (plus fires were left to burn for hours).

Many of those fires burned out.
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Yeah, and I'd like to know which part was hit by a plane or a collapsing building. That would help.

Unless someone is suggesting that the official story is that all burning buildings always collapse, which would be hilarious.

Building 7 was not the only building hit by debris.

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