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Title: I Present The Case Against Pnac


Terrorcell - November 17, 2006 03:37 AM (GMT)
The Website :

http://www.newamericancentury.org


The accused :

William Kristol, Gary Bauer, Roger Barnett, Jeffrey Bell, William J. Bennett, Jeffrey Bergner, Alvin Bernstein, Jeb Bush, Stephen Cambone, Eliot Cohen, Seth Cropsey, Devan Gaffney Cross, Midge Decter, Thomas Donnelly, David Epstein, David Fautua, Aaron Friedberg, Hillel Fradkin, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Jeffrey Gedmin, Reuel Marc Gerecht, Dan Goure, Charles Hill, Bruce P. Jackson, Eli S. Jacobs, Michael Joyce, Donald Kagan, Fred Kagan, Robert Kagan, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Charles Krauthammer, Mark Lagon, James Lasswell, John Lehman, I.Lewis Libby, Robert Martinage, Clifford May, Phil Meilinger, Mackubin Owens, Richard Perle, Martin Peretz, Norman Podhoretz, Stephen Rosen, Donald Rumsfeld, Randy Scheunemann, Gary Schmitt, William Schneider, Jr., Abram Schulsky, Richard H. Shultz, Henry Sokolski, Stephen J. Solarz, Michael Vickers, Vin Weber, Leon Wieseltier, Marshall Wittmann, Paul Wolfowitz, Dov Zackheim.

Goal :

A "New Pearl Harbor" to justify illegal wars of aggressions in order to ultimately invade the nation of Iraq and generic incredible financial gains for the military industrial complex and establish a "New World Order".

Exhibit A:

Rebuilding America's Defenses : Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century

Exhibit B :

September 20, 2001 Letter of PNAC to President George W. Bush


http://www.newamericancentury.org

Toward a Comprehensive Strategy

Project for the New American Century

1150 17th St NW Suite 510 Washington, DC 20037 September 20, 2001

The Honorable George W. Bush President of the United States Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We write to endorse your admirable commitment to "lead the world to victory" in the war against terrorism. We fully support your call for "a broad and sustained campaign" against the "terrorist organizations and those who harbor and support them." We agree with Secretary of State Powell that the United States must find and punish the perpetrators of the horrific attack of September 11, and we must, as he said, "go after terrorism wherever we find it in the world" and "get it by its branch and root." We agree with the Secretary of State that U.S. policy must aim not only at finding the people responsible for this incident, but must also target those "other groups out there that mean us no good" and "that have conducted attacks previously against U.S. personnel, U.S. interests and our allies." In order to carry out this "first war of the 21st century" successfully, and in order, as you have said, to do future "generations a favor by coming together and whipping terrorism," we believe the following steps are necessary parts of a comprehensive strategy.

Osama bin Laden We agree that a key goal, but by no means the only goal, of the current war on terrorism should be to capture or kill Osama bin Laden, and to destroy his network of associates. To this end, we support the necessary military action in Afghanistan and the provision of substantial financial and military assistance to the anti-Taliban forces in that country.

Iraq We agree with Secretary of State Powell's recent statement that Saddam Hussein "is one of the leading terrorists on the face of the Earth…." It may be that the Iraqi government provided assistance in some form to the recent attack on the United States. But even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack, any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq. Failure to undertake such an effort will constitute an early and perhaps decisive surrender in the war on international terrorism. The United States must therefore provide full military and financial support to the Iraqi opposition. American military force should be used to provide a "safe zone" in Iraq from which the opposition can operate. And American forces must be prepared to back up our commitment to the Iraqi opposition by all necessary means.

Hezbollah Hezbollah is one of the leading terrorist organizations in the world. It is suspected of having been involved in the 1998 bombings of the American embassies in Africa, and implicated in the bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. Hezbollah clearly falls in the category cited by Secretary Powell of groups "that mean us no good" and "that have conducted attacks previously against U.S. personnel, U.S. interests and our allies." Therefore, any war against terrorism must target Hezbollah. We believe the administration should demand that Iran and Syria immediately cease all military, financial, and political support for Hezbollah and its operations. Should Iran and Syria refuse to comply, the administration should consider appropriate measures of retaliation against these known state sponsors of terrorism.

Israel and the Palestinian Authority Israel has been and remains America's staunchest ally against international terrorism, especially in the Middle East. The United States should fully support our fellow democracy in its fight against terrorism. We should insist that the Palestinian Authority put a stop to terrorism emanating from territories under its control and imprison those planning terrorist attacks against Israel. Until the Palestinian Authority moves against terror, the United States should provide it no further assistance.

U.S. Defense Budget A serious and victorious war on terrorism will require a large increase in defense spending. Fighting this war may well require the United States to engage a well-armed foe, and will also require that we remain capable of defending our interests elsewhere in the world. We urge that there be no hesitation in requesting whatever funds for defense are needed to allow us to win this war. There is, of course, much more that will have to be done. Diplomatic efforts will be required to enlist other nations' aid in this war on terrorism. Economic and financial tools at our disposal will have to be used. There are other actions of a military nature that may well be needed. However, in our judgement the steps outlined above constitute the minimum necessary if this war is to be fought effectively and brought to a successful conclusion. Our purpose in writing is to assure you of our support as you do what must be done to lead the nation to victory in this fight.

Sincerely,

William Kristol, Gary Bauer, Jeffrey Bell, William J. Bennett, Jeffrey Bergner, Eliot Cohen, Seth Cropsey, Midge Decter, Thomas Donnelly, Aaron Friedberg, Hillel Fradkin, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Jeffrey Gedmin, Reuel Marc Gerecht, Charles Hill, Bruce P. Jackson, Eli S. Jacobs, Michael Joyce, Donald Kagan, Robert Kagan, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Charles Krauthammer, John Lehman, Clifford May, Richard Perle, Martin Peretz, Norman Podhoretz, Randy Scheunemann, Gary Schmitt, William Schneider, Jr., Richard H. Shultz, Henry Sokolski, Stephen J. Solarz, Vin Weber, Leon Wieseltier, Marshall Wittmann.








* any use of the word "allies" mean Israel.

** 9/11 sure worked out great for this group didn't it?


Momoka - November 17, 2006 04:35 AM (GMT)
Yes, because we've been so successful in Iraq and against Hezbollah.

I'm not saying that a lot of the War of Terrorism wasn't based on pre-9/11 ideas, but....so? It's not like terrorism had never existed prior to that.

It's interesting to know that the neocons were planning to Domino Effect from Iraq, but at this point, there's really no chance of that happening. And that they'd been planning to take out Iraq since 9/11, and probably before, isn't a shock.

We haven't captured or killed Osama bin Laden.

Iraq is a disaster, and there's no way we're going to be using it as a staging ground against anyone.

We've failed in big ways.

I admire that you posted the whole letter, though. Including the date.

September 20th, 2001.


I mock because I love, but I really do appreciate that you posted the entire letter. It shows a dedication towards intillectual honesty, and I respect that.

Terrorcell - November 17, 2006 06:42 AM (GMT)
Yes but their call for a "New Pearl Harbor" in Exhibit A before they suggest we attack Iraq for 9/11 was written years before 9/11.


So you don't think there is a tie-in between their sentiment that Osama Bin Laden shouldn't be the main target 9 days after the attacks and stressed an importance on Iraq and the United States actions following the attacks?


These are the people writing White House Policy.


"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Reggie_perrin - November 17, 2006 12:14 PM (GMT)
I don't care what anyone says, if any organization suggest that a "new pearl harbor" would be helpful to there goals a year prior to something like 9/11 should be fully investigated.These PNAC pigs make me sick, they're truly horrible people with absolutly no reagrd for human life, particualrlly those in the brown countries.

This group of neo-cons are the lowest of the low, they don't give a shit about the soldeirs they send off to die for there cause they just regard them as pawns in a game, everytime i see that little odious dwarf Bill Kristol on TV he makes me wanna vomit, he's a disgusting straussian warmongering chicken hawk, who he himself dodged the Vietnam draft and then when he had the oppotunity to volunteer he didn't bother, starnge considering his love of wars and military intervention.

Reggie_perrin - November 17, 2006 12:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Momoka @ Nov 17 2006, 04:35 AM)


Iraq is a disaster, and there's no way we're going to be using it as a staging ground against anyone.


REALLY ? so what they going to use those HUGE new US military bases for then ?, some of which are the biggest US military bases in the world, and i bet some of the big corporate companies/arm manufactuers/construction companies/oil companies many linked one way or another to the Bush admin who are now profoteering from the war begg to differ when you say it's been a disaster.

pdoherty76 - November 17, 2006 03:14 PM (GMT)
Can I just add some evidence?

In the book The Grand Chessboard some thing similar to Rebuilding Americas Defences is called for.

And of course the executive director of the 911 commision Philip Zelikow wrote an article in 1998, saying that if the towers had fallenin 93 it would be anew pearl harbour

Terrorcell - November 17, 2006 10:50 PM (GMT)
William Kristol Confronted

Kristol on Colbert

Kristol Stating Rummy would resign after 2006 Elections.

But yeah, these clowns are writing White House policy, right momoka?

Reggie_perrin - November 17, 2006 11:19 PM (GMT)
"a military build up to keep the peace"- Bill Kristol, that line sounds like something right out of orwells 1984.

Reggie_perrin - November 17, 2006 11:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Nov 17 2006, 10:50 PM)
William Kristol Confronted

Kristol on Colbert

Kristol Stating Rummy would resign after 2006 Elections.

But yeah, these clowns are writing White House policy, right momoka?

Thats a good one but i feel this one is more satisfying :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDEoLJGyCAo

websuspect - November 22, 2006 04:43 AM (GMT)
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IVXX - November 22, 2006 09:57 AM (GMT)
Hey Webs!!! Good to see you here!!!

websuspect - November 23, 2006 11:29 PM (GMT)
Thank you thank you.

My internet is broke but I am here anyways.

IVXX - November 26, 2006 04:44 AM (GMT)
And now that's it's fixed don't be a stranger. ;)

thehighwaymanq - December 3, 2006 11:34 PM (GMT)
That is some hard evidence that can never be overlooked

look-up - December 5, 2006 07:11 PM (GMT)
seems like if my girlfriend ended up dead and I had written a letter to another girl a year before that said something like, "The process, even if it brings us together and we can live in happiness, is likely to be a long one, absent some king of 'Accident' happening to remove [girlfriend] from the picture", that I would be investigated for her murder. DOn't you think?

Sypher - December 5, 2006 11:28 PM (GMT)
What the original poster forgot to add, just like the LC Crew is that the main authors for Rebuilding America's Defenses(Kristol, Feith, Perle, Wolfowitz) are also the same people who wrote the Israeli Policy Papers: A Clean Break back in 1999 which called for a war with Iraq.

I wouldnt like to believe that the Loose Change guys are deliberatly leaving things out of their films to spread disinfo, which ironically enough Jason personally told me they cut out the Israeli involvement/foreknowledge because it was "murky" and used the Straw Man of the Odigo employees and the 5 Dancing Israeli's, but why talk aboud PNAC and Rebuilding America's Defenses when you won't event mention the people who wrote it and how they also hold Dual Citizenship with Israel and are Zionist?

Terrorcell - December 6, 2006 02:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sypher @ Dec 5 2006, 11:28 PM)



QUOTE
What the original poster forgot to add, just like the LC Crew is that the main authors for Rebuilding America's Defenses(Kristol, Feith, Perle, Wolfowitz) are also the same people who wrote the Israeli Policy Papers: A Clean Break back in 1999 which called for a war with Iraq.


Albeit not intentional, you are correct that I didn't go into the Israeli angle. Although any real investigation into this subject would quickly uncover that.

QUOTE
I wouldnt like to believe that the Loose Change guys are deliberatly leaving things out of their films to spread disinfo, which ironically enough Jason personally told me they cut out the Israeli involvement/foreknowledge because it was "murky" and used the Straw Man of the Odigo employees and the 5 Dancing Israeli's, but why talk aboud PNAC and Rebuilding America's Defenses when you won't event mention the people who wrote it and how they also hold Dual Citizenship with Israel and are Zionist?


I wouldn't call a straw man argument having the 3 'art students' minus the 2 Mossad members who were all working for Urban Movers on national Israeli TV stating they were "there to document the event" a straw man argument personally.

Instead of criticizing me for what I didn't include, why not take a minute or two and contribute it here instead? Wouldn't that had been a much more informative thing to do?

It would also make a great contribution to this thread.

Sypher - December 7, 2006 02:11 AM (GMT)
[QUOTE=Terrorcell,Dec 6 2006, 02:13 AM]

[/QUOTE]Albeit not intentional, you are correct that I didn't go into the Israeli angle. Although any real investigation into this subject would quickly uncover that.



I wouldn't call a straw man argument having the 3 'art students' minus the 2 Mossad members who were all working for Urban Movers on national Israeli TV stating they were "there to document the event" a straw man argument personally.

Instead of criticizing me for what I didn't include, why not take a minute or two and contribute it here instead? Wouldn't that had been a much more informative thing to do?

It would also make a great contribution to this thread.
[/QUOTE]

What I meant by straw man argument is that the why Jason Bermas mentioned it was a strawman argument. He made it seems as if those two things he tried to discredit didnt have any signifacence, but when researched, clearly shows something to the contrary.

Thats one of the big problems I have with almost all of the 9/11 documentaries. I understand they are used to make people question the official story and research it for themselves, but that doesn't mean it gives the green light to leave out the most important aspect. When making such strong accusations like the 9/11 docu's do, I believe the most important things shouldnt be left out.

Part of me is starting to believe that the Loose Change crew, and even Alex Jones in some respects, might be controlled opposition.


NK-44 - December 7, 2006 02:47 AM (GMT)
good work, terrorcell!

Terrorcell - December 7, 2006 03:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sypher @ Dec 7 2006, 02:11 AM)
What I meant by straw man argument is that the why Jason Bermas mentioned it was a strawman argument. He made it seems as if those two things he tried to discredit didnt have any signifacence, but when researched, clearly shows something to the contrary.

Thats one of the big problems I have with almost all of the 9/11 documentaries. I understand they are used to make people question the official story and research it for themselves, but that doesn't mean it gives the green light to leave out the most important aspect. When making such strong accusations like the 9/11 docu's do, I believe the most important things shouldnt be left out.

Part of me is starting to believe that the Loose Change crew, and even Alex Jones in some respects, might be controlled opposition.

Not everything can be put into any one film. It would be a 3 day movie if it did. Listen, instead of criticizing people who have done something in some way post it here. Don't put out theories that someone is controlled opposition, post the links to the Israeli Policy Papers. Post the text. Post the background on the players in move. Contribute positively.

People will come looking for information, people will come looking for answers, they will come with questions. In your last 2 posts you could have helped them with all of that. Think about that. Contribute, please.

Terrorcell - December 7, 2006 03:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (NK-44 @ Dec 7 2006, 02:47 AM)
good work, terrorcell!

Thank you!

Sypher - December 8, 2006 12:33 AM (GMT)
Last time I checked I wasn't exactly puting out theories that someone is controlled opposition. I was merely stating my views and opinion. Anyhoo, here is the link to the Israeli Policy Papers....http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm. It has more of the important text highlighted and such. But I understand where you are coming from Terrorcell about contributing positvely.

Below are some of the main Zionist inthe government, and the people responsible the phony war in Iraq currently...

Ricahrd Perle
Trilateral commission
CFR
American Enterprise Institute
PNAC author
IASPA author with Feith and Wumser all of whom participated in Likud policy deliberations
Notable IASPA paper *Israeli Clean Break
Resigend from chairman of the Defense Policy Board 2003
Resigend from DOD Feb 2004
Started Trireme Partners Inc with Henry Kisinger.
Was a Scoop Jackson Democrat with Wolfowitz.
Advisor to Israel.
In the 70s was accused of Spying for Israel and leaking classified information about the CIA to Russia.
Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
Involved in the OSP
Championed the fabrications that led to a war with Iraq.
Business associate to Conrad Black of Hollinger International Inc. )the mass media conglomerate) Perle is the Director and Co-Chairman
Hollinger Digital Inc.
Director of Jerusalem Post Publications
Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Board of Directors for Autonomy
Global Crossing, Advisor/Lobbyist (communicationsand data collecting)
Hudson Institute (with Abrams and Libby)
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel


Douglas Feith
Former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (resigned Aug 8th 2005)
CFR member and speaker
ISAPA *Israeli Clean Break with Pelre and Wumser
Scoop Jackson Democrat along with Perle, Wolfowitz, and Abrams
Created the Office of Specil Plans
Ran the OSP out of his office as Undersecretary of Defense for Policy in the DOD
His underling Lary Franklin was caught spying for Israel.
"Franklin and Harold Rhode (Douglas Feith's top specialist on the Middle East) held secret meetings in Rome, and "subsequently in Paris," with Iran/Contra arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar. These meetings were arranged by longtime Republican operative Michael Ledeen."
He and Perle both profited from the IAI a bogus interest group for Turkey that was in essence just a looby for more defense spending with Feith being the CEO and sole share holder!
Feith worked for Perle in 1982 and got his job in the OD largely because of Wolfowitz.
Feith had Israeli generals meeting him in his office in the run up to the war with Iraq who met him there with no clearence, not signing in and not being esscorted.
Cooked up the WMDs myth with Wolfowitz and cooked up the bogus Iraq-Al Qaeda connections
White House Iraq/Information Group or WHIG
Director for the Foundation for Jewish Studies
Special Counsel to Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Perle
Former Attorney for Northrop Grumman (who has gotten the third largest defense paycheck from Uncle Sam after Lockheed and Boeing for the last 6 years in a row.)
Managing Attorney for Feith & Zell, P.C. (a merger with an Israeli law firm who now deals with reconstruction contracts coming out of Iraq)
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel


Paul D. Wolfowitz
President of the World Bank (appointed in 2005 by Bush)
Trilateral Commission
American Enterprise Institute,
PNAC author
CFR
Bilderberg
consultent for Northrop Grumman who has gotten the third largest defense paycheck from Uncle Sam after Lockheed and Boeing for the last 6 years in a row.)
Teacher of Lewis Libby who is also a consultent of Northrop.
Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Studied under Allen Bloom a student of Leo Strauss
Was a Scoop Jackson Democrat with Abrams and Perle working for Henry Jackson in 1969
Rand Corp
State Department’s Policy Planning Staff 81-82
Was in Skull and Bones at Yale
Drafted Defense Policy Guidance” with Libby and Khalilzad (this later became the core of PNAC ideology)
OSP member
WMD myth maker which he openly admitted without shame or reprisal.
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel


Elliot Abrams
Iran Contra criminal (convicted and then pardoned by George Bush Sr.)
Deputy assistant to the president
The point man for Israel-Palestine conflict policies.
A Scoop Jackson Demoract like Perle, Feith, and Wolfowitz
American Enterprise Institute
Charter member of PNAC
Advisory council member of the American Jewish Committee
Trotskyite and Globalist
CFR member
Hudson Institute (with Perle and Libby)
"In 1992 Abrams helped form the Committee for U.S. Interests in the Middle East, which was actually a committee to ensure that U.S. policy was aligned with the Likud party in Israel. Other members included Perle, Feith, Gaffney, and John Lehman, among dozens of other neoconservatives and pro-Israel hawks"
Wrote PNAC's"Present Dangers: Crisis and Opportunity in American Foreign and Defense Policy" -this was edited by William Kristol and RObert Kagan.
Perle was his Mentor
Straussian neoconservative
Absoulte Zionist (perhaspe the most feverish one)
Dual citizen with Israel


Lewis Libby
Cheney's former ormer chief of staff from 2001 until October 2005
Also named Cheney's assistant for National Security Affairs
wrote Defense Planning Guidance with Wolfowitz and Zalmay Khalilza (this later became the core of PNAC ideology)
Studied under Wolfawitz
Hudson Institute (with Perle and Abrams)
PNAC author
Co-wrote PNAC's (magnum Opus) Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces, and Resources for a New Century (the New Perl Harbor doctrine)
Lawyer for Marc Rich (Zionist billionaire who was pardoned by Clinton) for 15 years.
OSP member
Helped foster with Cheney the "Saddam Hussein met with lead hijacker Mohamed Atta" myth.
Indicted for the Plame Affair
Caught up in Niger-gate
A federal grand jury charged Libby with five felonies alleging obstruction of justice, perjury to a grand jury, and making false statements to FBI agents.
And this might not be relavent but just to get into this guy's head, he wrote a book "The Apprentice" detailing underage rape and sex with animals (alive and dead).
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel
[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked I wasn't exactly puting out theories that someone is controlled opposition. I was merely stating my views and opinion. Anyhoo, here is the link to the Israeli Policy Papers....http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm. It has more of the important text highlighted and such. But I understand what you mean about contributing more positively Terrorcell

Below are some of the main Zionist inthe government, and the people responsible the phony war in Iraq currently...

Ricahrd Perle
Trilateral commission
CFR
American Enterprise Institute
PNAC author
IASPA author with Feith and Wumser all of whom participated in Likud policy deliberations
Notable IASPA paper *Israeli Clean Break
Resigend from chairman of the Defense Policy Board 2003
Resigend from DOD Feb 2004
Started Trireme Partners Inc with Henry Kisinger.
Was a Scoop Jackson Democrat with Wolfowitz.
Advisor to Israel.
In the 70s was accused of Spying for Israel and leaking classified information about the CIA to Russia.
Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
Involved in the OSP
Championed the fabrications that led to a war with Iraq.
Business associate to Conrad Black of Hollinger International Inc. )the mass media conglomerate) Perle is the Director and Co-Chairman
Hollinger Digital Inc.
Director of Jerusalem Post Publications
Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Board of Directors for Autonomy
Global Crossing, Advisor/Lobbyist (communicationsand data collecting)
Hudson Institute (with Abrams and Libby)
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel


Douglas Feith
Former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (resigned Aug 8th 2005)
CFR member and speaker
ISAPA *Israeli Clean Break with Pelre and Wumser
Scoop Jackson Democrat along with Perle, Wolfowitz, and Abrams
Created the Office of Specil Plans
Ran the OSP out of his office as Undersecretary of Defense for Policy in the DOD
His underling Lary Franklin was caught spying for Israel.
"Franklin and Harold Rhode (Douglas Feith's top specialist on the Middle East) held secret meetings in Rome, and "subsequently in Paris," with Iran/Contra arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar. These meetings were arranged by longtime Republican operative Michael Ledeen."
He and Perle both profited from the IAI a bogus interest group for Turkey that was in essence just a looby for more defense spending with Feith being the CEO and sole share holder!
Feith worked for Perle in 1982 and got his job in the OD largely because of Wolfowitz.
Feith had Israeli generals meeting him in his office in the run up to the war with Iraq who met him there with no clearence, not signing in and not being esscorted.
Cooked up the WMDs myth with Wolfowitz and cooked up the bogus Iraq-Al Qaeda connections
White House Iraq/Information Group or WHIG
Director for the Foundation for Jewish Studies
Special Counsel to Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Perle
Former Attorney for Northrop Grumman (who has gotten the third largest defense paycheck from Uncle Sam after Lockheed and Boeing for the last 6 years in a row.)
Managing Attorney for Feith & Zell, P.C. (a merger with an Israeli law firm who now deals with reconstruction contracts coming out of Iraq)
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel


Paul D. Wolfowitz
President of the World Bank (appointed in 2005 by Bush)
Trilateral Commission
American Enterprise Institute,
PNAC author
CFR
Bilderberg
consultent for Northrop Grumman who has gotten the third largest defense paycheck from Uncle Sam after Lockheed and Boeing for the last 6 years in a row.)
Teacher of Lewis Libby who is also a consultent of Northrop.
Washington Institute for Near East Policy
Studied under Allen Bloom a student of Leo Strauss
Was a Scoop Jackson Democrat with Abrams and Perle working for Henry Jackson in 1969
Rand Corp
State Department’s Policy Planning Staff 81-82
Was in Skull and Bones at Yale
Drafted Defense Policy Guidance” with Libby and Khalilzad (this later became the core of PNAC ideology)
OSP member
WMD myth maker which he openly admitted without shame or reprisal.
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel


Elliot Abrams
Iran Contra criminal (convicted and then pardoned by George Bush Sr.)
Deputy assistant to the president
The point man for Israel-Palestine conflict policies.
A Scoop Jackson Demoract like Perle, Feith, and Wolfowitz
American Enterprise Institute
Charter member of PNAC
Advisory council member of the American Jewish Committee
Trotskyite and Globalist
CFR member
Hudson Institute (with Perle and Libby)
"In 1992 Abrams helped form the Committee for U.S. Interests in the Middle East, which was actually a committee to ensure that U.S. policy was aligned with the Likud party in Israel. Other members included Perle, Feith, Gaffney, and John Lehman, among dozens of other neoconservatives and pro-Israel hawks"
Wrote PNAC's"Present Dangers: Crisis and Opportunity in American Foreign and Defense Policy" -this was edited by William Kristol and RObert Kagan.
Perle was his Mentor
Straussian neoconservative
Absoulte Zionist (perhaspe the most feverish one)
Dual citizen with Israel


Lewis Libby
Cheney's former ormer chief of staff from 2001 until October 2005
Also named Cheney's assistant for National Security Affairs
wrote Defense Planning Guidance with Wolfowitz and Zalmay Khalilza (this later became the core of PNAC ideology)
Studied under Wolfawitz
Hudson Institute (with Perle and Abrams)
PNAC author
Co-wrote PNAC's (magnum Opus) Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces, and Resources for a New Century (the New Perl Harbor doctrine)
Lawyer for Marc Rich (Zionist billionaire who was pardoned by Clinton) for 15 years.
OSP member
Helped foster with Cheney the "Saddam Hussein met with lead hijacker Mohamed Atta" myth.
Indicted for the Plame Affair
Caught up in Niger-gate
A federal grand jury charged Libby with five felonies alleging obstruction of justice, perjury to a grand jury, and making false statements to FBI agents.
And this might not be relavent but just to get into this guy's head, he wrote a book "The Apprentice" detailing underage rape and sex with animals (alive and dead).
Absoulte Zionist
Dual citizen with Israel

IVXX - December 10, 2006 01:23 PM (GMT)
Follow the link for great info on PNAC

911, Iraq, PNAC , All roads lead to Israel

Terrorcell - December 12, 2006 03:20 AM (GMT)
I'd like to see a Jref'er take a shot at that..........

IVXX - December 15, 2006 08:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 11 2006, 10:20 PM)
I'd like to see a Jref'er take a shot at that..........

They have....... by claiming it's racist.

Terrorcell - December 19, 2006 03:51 AM (GMT)
PNAC loves space weapons, energy laser


Total 911 Info


The PNAC (Project for a New American Century) faction which penetrated the Pentagon was eager for a chance to demonstrate the effectiveness of their space-based and directed-energy weapons. Consider this quote from the very same manuscript, Rebuilding America's Defense, which also called for a "new Pearl Harbor" to kick off inifinite war against the Muslim world:
"The United States must field a global system of missile defenses, [&] divine ways to control the new "international commons" of space .
[...]
The Air Force should use some of its increased budget and the savings from the cancellation of the Joint Strike Fighter program to accelerate the process of transformation within the service, to include developing new space capabilities. The ability to have access to, operate in, and dominate the aerospace environment has
become the key to military success in modern, high-technology warfare.
[...]
While there is an argument to be made for "terminal" ground-based interceptors as an element in a larger architecture of missile defenses, it deserves the lowest rather than the first priority. The first element in any missile defense network should be a galaxy of surveillance satellites with sensors capable of acquiring enemy ballistic missiles immediately upon launch. Once a missile is tracked and targeted, this information needs to be instantly disseminated through a world-wide command-and-control system, including direct links to interceptors. To address the special problems of theater-range ballistic missiles, theater-level defenses should be layered as well. In addition to space-based systems, these theater systems should include both land- and sea-based interceptors, to allow for deployment to trouble spots to reinforce theater systems already in place or to cover gaps where no defenses exist. In addition, they should be "two-tiered," providing close-in "point defense" of valuable targets and forces as well as upper-level, "theater-wide" coverage.
[...]
But to be most effective, this array global reconnaissance and targeting satellites should be linked to a global network of space-based interceptors (or space-based lasers). In fact, it is misleading to think of such a system as a "national" missile defense system, for it would be a vital element in theater defenses, protecting U.S. allies or expeditionary forces abroad from longer-range theater weapons. This is why the Bush Administration's missile defense architecture, which is almost identical to the network described above, was called Global Protection Against Limited Strikes (GPALS).

No system of missile defenses can be fully effective without placing sensors and weapons in space. Although this would appear to be creating a potential new theater of warfare, in fact space has been militarized for the better part of four decades. Weather, communications, navigation and reconnaissance satellites are increasingly essential elements in American military power. Indeed, U.S. armed forces are uniquely dependent upon space. As the 1996 Joint Strategy Review, a precursor to the 1997 Quadrennial Defense Review, concluded, "Space is already inextricably linked to military operations on land, on the sea, and in the air." The report of the National Defense Panel agreed: "Unrestricted use of space has become a major strategic interest of the United States."

In 1996, commecial launches exceeded military launches in the United States, and commercial revenues exceeded government expenditures on space. Today, more than 1,100 commercial companies across more than 50 countries are developing, building, and operating space systems. Many of these commercial space systems have direct military applications, including information from global positioning system constellations . . .

95 percent of current U.S. military communications are carried over commercial circuits... Control of space – defined by Space Command as "the ability to assure access to space, freedom of operations within the space medium, and an ability to deny others the use of space" – must be an essential element of our military strategy. If America cannot maintain that control, its ability to conduct global military operations will be severely complicated, far more costly, and potentially fatally compromised.

The Navy Theater-Wide system is based upon the Aegis system, with an upgraded radar and higher-velocity – though intentionally slowed down to meet administration concerns over violating the ABM Treaty – version of the Standard missile. The THAAD system has enjoyed recent test success, but development of the Navy Theater-Wide system has been hampered by lack of funds. Similarly, a fifth component of a theater-wide network of ballistic missile defenses, the Air Force's airborne laser project, has suffered from insufficient funding. This system, which mounts a high energy laser in a 747 aircraft, is designed to intercept theater ballistic missiles in their earliest, or "boost" phase, when they are most vulnerable .

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And then, just a month before the "New Pearl Harbor" of 9/11/01, PNAC again reiterated its desire to use these exotic weapons. From a PNAC open memo to "opinion leaders," August 2, 2001:
[...]Space has been militarized for decades and control of space is fundamental to maintaining American military preeminence.

[...]Space is fast becoming the "high seas" of the future, and "space power" the equivalent of the "sea power" that propelled first Great Britain and then the United States on the path to global leadership. Control of the emerging "international commons" of space will do much to determine the future shape of international politics here on earth.

These challenges are well understood by the Defense Department and the Bush Administration more broadly. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld chaired a recent congressionally-mandated commission on the future of spacespace has been militarized for decades and control of space is fundamental to maintaining American military preeminence.
[...]

Terrorcell - December 19, 2006 03:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 15 2006, 08:41 PM)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 11 2006, 10:20 PM)
I'd like to see a Jref'er take a shot at that..........

They have....... by claiming it's racist.

The oldest and weakest argument in the book. Also the easiest, go figure.............

IVXX - December 19, 2006 04:38 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 18 2006, 10:52 PM)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 15 2006, 08:41 PM)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 11 2006, 10:20 PM)
I'd like to see a Jref'er take a shot at that..........

They have....... by claiming it's racist.

The oldest and weakest argument in the book. Also the easiest, go figure.............


You know it. It's the only defense they have against it. Those who believe the official story of 9/11 would then have to agree that our support of Israel is one of the MAJOR problems we have with the Middle East.

We send 6 billion dollars a year in aid to Israel and that's not counting freebies such as tanks, helicopter, fighter jets etc.

Maybe another reason for trouble with the Middle east is.........

In 1967, following a war between Israel and the countries of Syria, Jordan and Eygpt, Israel militarily occupied the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem. That year, the United Nations Security Council passes Resolution 242 calling for Israel to withdraw from Occupied Territories. Israel has yet to comply.

Now two things here......

1) Watch the documentaries below and see the total control and manipulation of the U.S. media

2) Israel hasn't complied with a U.N. resolution for 39 years and the U.S. has done nothing??? OH but let Sadam lock out U.N. inspectors for 3 months and it's on.


Watch these two documentaries........

Peace, Propaganda and the Promise Land

The Killing Zone

Terrorcell - December 19, 2006 05:43 PM (GMT)
Wasn't GHWB appointed to be an ambassador before becoming head of the CIA?
And if I'm correct you'll find that as 'ambassador' all he did was veto Resolutions against Israel.

George Hayduke - January 18, 2007 11:12 AM (GMT)

Reggie_perrin - February 12, 2007 07:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Momoka @ Nov 17 2006, 04:35 AM)


It's interesting to know that the neocons were planning to Domino Effect from Iraq, but at this point, there's really no chance of that happening. And that they'd been planning to take out Iraq since 9/11, and probably before, isn't a shock.



Iraq is a disaster, and there's no way we're going to be using it as a staging ground against anyone.



hmmm :rolleyes: shows how much this particular "de-bunker" moron knows.

Just look at todays headlines for proof

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"U.s. Ties Iran Leader To Bombs Killing U.s. Troops"




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