The official story of 9/11 is the following: on United Airlines Flight 93, passengers Todd Beamer, Jeremy Glick, Mark Bingham, and Thomas Burnett Jr. fought the terrorists, and the plane crashed as a result of that fight.

Well, it turns out that Beamer, Glick, and Bingham have connections to Israel.


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Todd Beamer worked for Oracle Corporation. Larry Ellison has been the CEO of Oracle since Oracle was created in 1977.

Source: Ellison's biography on the Oracle website
http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pressroom/...od_ellison.html


Also, at the time of the 9/11/2001 attacks, Ellison owned 70% of an Israeli company called Quark Biotech.

Source: 9/3/2001 article in Fortune magazine
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/for...09267/index.htm


Furthermore, Ellison has tried to profit from the attacks. In the few days after the attacks, Ellison called for the creation of the national identification card for the United States and offered to help build the data system behind it.

Source: 2/1/2002 article in GovExec.com (the online version of Government Executive magazine)
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/020102ti.htm


Thus, Todd Beamer worked for a man who had ties to Israel and who has tried to profit from the attacks.


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Jeremy Glick started working for Giga Information Group either at the same time as Glick's 1996 wedding or at some point before the wedding. Glick worked for Giga Information Group until 2000.

Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/2001...3glickbiop8.asp


Giga Information Group was founded by Gideon Gartner in 1995, and Gartner was the Chairman and CEO of Giga from 1995 to 1999.

Source: http://www.proactivityinc.com/company/governance.htm


Furthermore, according to an article in the July 3, 1989, issue of the Austin American-Statesman newspaper, Gideon Gartner was born in Israel. I discovered this article in the database known as Factiva, which is available in some public libraries.


Thus, Jeremy Glick spent years working for a man who was born in Israel.


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Mark Bingham graduated from college in 1993, and his own company opened for business in 1999. For some period of time between the 1993 graduation and the 1999 opening, Bingham worked for 3Com Corporation.

Source: 1/22/2002 article in the magazine The Advocate
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._22/ai_81790790


The CEO of 3Com from September 1990 to December 31, 2000, was Eric Benhamou. Thus, Benhamou was the CEO during Mark Bingham's employment at 3Com. Benhamou has many ties to Israel.

Source: Benhamou's biography on the 3Com website
http://www.3com.com/corpinfo/en_US/investo...s/benhamou.html


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It turns out that United Airlines Flight 93 is not the only 9/11 flight which had passengers with Israeli connections.


The following people were on American Airlines Flight 11, which
crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center:

Edmund Glazer, chief financial officer, MRV Communications

Daniel Lewin, co-founder and chief technology officer, Akamai
Technologies

Jeff Mladenik, interim CEO, eLogic

Andrew Green, director of business development, eLogic

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/modules/wtc/victims/d...lt.asp?p=5#list




The following people were on United Airlines Flight 175, which crashed
into the South Tower of the World Trade Center:

James Hayden, chief financial officer, Netegrity

Alona Avraham, manufacturing engineer associate, Applied
Materials

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/modules/wtc/victims/d...lt.asp?p=8#list


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First, we examine the Israeli connections of Edmund Glazer, chief financial officer of MRV Communications.

Noam Lotan has been CEO of MRV since May 1990, and Shlomo Margalit has been the Chairman of MRV's Board of Directors since July 1988. Thus, Lotan and Margalit controlled MRV at the time of the 9/11/2001 attacks.
Also, Lotan and Margalit have Israeli backgrounds. Prior to becoming CEO of MRV, Lotan earned a Bachelor's Degree from the Technion, the Israel Institute of Technology. Prior to becoming Chairman of MRV, Margalit was a professor at the Technion.

Source: Lotan's and Margalit's biographies on the MRV website
http://www.mrv.com/corporate/leadership/noam.php
http://www.mrv.com/corporate/leadership/shlomo.php


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Next we come to Daniel Lewin of Akamai. Before founding Akamai, Lewin
was a captain in Sayeret Matkal, a top-secret Israeli anti-terrorist
unit.

Furthermore, on Flight 11, Lewin was seated one row behind two of the
hijackers and one row in front of one other hijacker. What are the
odds that an Israeli anti-terrorism soldier would be sitting near all
of these hijackers?

Source: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26973


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Now we come to Jeff Mladenik and Andrew Green of eLogic. In January 2002, a few months after Mladenik and Green died, eLogic appointed as CEO a man named Steve Nezer, who had once worked for the government of Israel.

Source: http://www.reedbusiness.com/index.asp?layo...icleID=CA190644


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Now we come to James Hayden of Netegrity. In 1994, Netegrity began a partnership with a company called Check Point Software Technologies.
In August 1996, that partnership was expanded.

Source: 8/12/1996 article in the publication Business Wire
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._12/ai_18570369


Check Point Software Technologies is an Israeli company.

Source: May 2000 article in the publication Global Finance
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...005/ai_n8889614


So, James Hayden worked for a company that had formed a partnership with an Israeli company in 1994 and that had expanded that partnership in 1996.


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Now we turn our discussion to Alona Avraham of Applied Materials.

Alona Avraham was a resident of Israel. Furthermore, her sister and brother were soldiers in the Israeli military at the time of the 9/11/2001 attacks.

See the following article in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.j...sID=0&listSrc=Y

This article was published within a few days of the 9/11/2001 attacks.


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So, what is the significance of the passengers' connections to Israel?

Well, let us examine the following pattern:

1) Israel had a motive for committing the 9/11 attacks. If those attacks could be blamed on Arabs and/or Muslims, then Israel would be given a free hand by the American people to deal with the Palestinians.

On 9/11/2001, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the 9/11 attacks meant for US/Israeli relations, and Netanyahu replied: "It's very good. ... Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy."

Source of Netanyahu quote: New York Times, 9/11/2001

excerpt of article: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/rad-g...ber/000883.html


2) At the time of the attacks, the WTC was owned/leased by Larry Silverstein. According to some reports, Silverstein has ties to Israel.

Furthermore, there is evidence that the WTC towers were brought down by internal explosives and NOT by the fires that resulted from the plane crashes. Those explosives would have been planted a significant amount of time before the plane crashes. Thus, the explosives would have been placed into areas of the WTC towers that could not be seen by the general public. Larry Silverstein is one person who would have the authority to order people to place explosives into these places.


3) Jonathan Pollard was arrested in 1985 for spying for Israel, and the Secretary of Defense's office of the general counsel suspected that Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, and Douglas Feith were Pollard's co-conspirators.

Also, in 1970, Perle was caught by the FBI passing secrets to the Israeli Embassy in Washington DC.


Within the first six months of George W. Bush's presidency, Bush appointed Perle, Wolfowitz, and Feith to high-level Pentagon jobs. Thus, Perle, Wolfowitz, and Feith were in position to help stage the Pentagon portion of the 9/11 attacks.


4) On 9/11/2001, some men were seen dancing and celebrating in New Jersey as the World Trade Center towers were crumbling. These men were apprehended by authorities, and authorities discovered that these men were Israeli agents. So, why were Israeli agents celebrating the destruction of the WTC?


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Items 1-4 suggest that Israel may have had a major role in the 9/11 attacks. Now, we find out that three passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 had connections to Israel. These are not just any three passengers. These are three passengers who fought the terrorists. Also, we find out that four passengers on American Airlines Flight 11 and two passengers on United Airlines Flight 175 were connected to Israel. Thus, we have more evidence of a major Israeli role in the 9/11 attacks.

Let's not forget the Israeli national and Mexican Jew who were caught at the Mexican Parliament in Mexico City in October, 2001 with automatic weapons and explosives. They were never held to account but instead quietly deported to Israel. Not one mention about this story in the US media.

Don't forget that their van tested positive for explosives as reported by the Bergen Record on Sept. 12 2001.

Also, Mark Bingham's homosexual partner was a fairly high-level Republican Party official. And Mark's father said exactly what Bush would have wanted him to say after 9/11.

THEY WERE NOT CIVILIANS, FEW DEATH INSURANCE CLAIMS WERE EVER PURSUED

That's interesting, even though I don't believe that cell phone calls could have been made back then from large airborne aircraft.
The famous line of "hi mom it's Mark Bingham here", could be how a homosexual would greet an estranged parent by phone call.

Is't it true that were a buch of JDL guys abord the other plans?

Wow, this could take awhile. Let's see...

First of all, and this applies to many of your later points, "had ties to Israel" is not equivalent to "was willing and able to execute an attack that killed almost three thousand people". If you want to play Six Degrees of Separation, I doubt there is a single person on the planet who doesn't have ties to Israel. Is there evidence that Ellison did anything illegal?

I'm afraid a person's Judaism does not automatically make them guilty of every crime you can connect them to.

Furthermore, Beamer himself was not Jewish and I doubt that his position as an Accounts Manager at Oracle afforded him a great deal of face-to-face time with its CEO. Even if one was to accept that Ellison (who was born in New York) was some sort of sleeper Israeli agent, is there any evidence that Beamer himself was directly connected to Mossad or any other intelligence agency?

Again, the fact that Gartner was born in Israel does not make him a mass murderer, any more than being born in Germany makes someone a Nazi. Do you have any substantial evidence connecting him to illegal activity?

Also, so what if Glick worked several levels below an Israeli-born man? Is there any evidence that Glick himself was directly connected to any sort of intelligence agency?

I feel like I'm just repeating myself, probably because I am. A man's connections to Israel do not make him a Mossad assassin. I was born in the United States and have lived in this country all my life. Doesn't make me a CIA saboteur.

And, again, you have no evidence that Bingham himself was directly connected in any way to Israeli intelligence agencies.

Rather than just go line-by-line and repeat the same objections, I'm going to say that if you take any sizeable number of people, you will find that a percentage of them have some sort of common connection, be it nationalistic, ethnic, political, or religious. This in and of itself is not evidence of a conspiracy.

You have produced no evidence that any of these people were actually involved in any sort of sinister activity when they boarded those planes. Aside from Daniel Lewin (whose employment history is public knowledge), you have produced no evidence that any of the passengers were directly involved with the Israeli intelligence services. I would appreciate it if you would come up with something more significant before throwing out such allegations.

Lots of people, organizations, or governments could have conceivably possessed motives for orchestrating the 9/11 attacks. This does not make all of them guilty. Motive is only a starting point in investigation; it is not an automatic conviction.

Why would he want to destroy his own buildings? Even with the insurance payout, Silverstein wound up losing money.

Not only does this does not prove him guilty, but it is also rather implausible. Consider: entire security teams would have to be perfectly willing to follow his homicidal orders, to say nothing of countless office workers and maintainance men in buildings that hundreds of thousands of people passed through every day.

And not a single person stood up and said, "Hey! My boss is ordering me to plant charges!" Does this seem realistic to you?



I'm sorry, but nowhere in your post do you provide evidence that Israeli agents were up to any sort of suspect behavior on the day of the attacks. The best you can do is scrutinize the backgrounds of men and women who died tragically and cry "Jew!" at the faintest sign of a vague connection to an entire country.

What would have made you happy, I wonder, in the days following 9/11? If more Jews had been arrested? No, wait, here's a better idea! Why don't we just make everyone who has a remote tie to Israel, or better yet, every Jew in America, wear some sort of emblem so that the general American public will never be caught unawares again?

But what emblem could we use? Oh, I've got the perfect thing:

A yellow star.

Is that really the country you want to live in?

He had to pay around 100million/year to rent it, with an initial 50 million investment, I believe....

He had an 8 billion dollar insurance policy. You do the math.

After several years of legal disputes with the insurance companies, Larry Silverstein wound up being awarded roughly $5 billion dollars. The estimated costs of construction on the World Trade Center site range from $10 to $12 billion, a large portion of which will be paid by that same insurance payout.

Also, I'm still not seeing any hard evidence that Silverstein did anything illegal.

You are completely missing the gist of the entire post by Hawk. He is not suggesting that Todd Beumer was a hijacker. The entire account of "Todd Beumer's" behavior on FL93 is suspicious.

1. He chose to call a complete stranger instead of his pregnant wife, and chose to talk to her for 45 minutes in an untaped call.

2. He recited a certain prayer with Lisa Jefferson, the stranger he called, although his wife does not recall him knowing that prayer.

3. He supposedly made the call from the same area of the plane as did Tom Burnett, yet the two men apparently were not coordinating with each other their plans for a passenger revolt. Why not?

4. Todd Beumer's call is the only one-- from all four flights-- placing the hijackers still on the plane in the last 10-15 minutes of flight. The only other piece of evidence showing them still on the planes is the Cockpit Voice Recorder from UAL93, which almost everyone agrees was fraudulent.

5. Beumer's phone line was apparently still open long after the plane crashed.

The bottom line is we have no proof that it was really Beumer making that call, or even that he was on UAL93 at all. His phone call lacks the credibility of other calls such as Betty Ong's and Todd Burnett's. Perhaps not coincidentally, those two calls provide evidence damning to the official story, while the call made to Lisa Jefferson from "Todd Beumer" validates the official story in every way.

Hawk's post shows evidence of a possible scenario: Beumer was vetted by Israeli operatives to be the perfect Christian Hero-martyr. They operated through CEO Ellison, who was recruited as a sayan in the manner so ably described by Victor Ostrovsky in his two books about the Mossad.

In this scenario, Beumer never made it on the plane. He was replaced by someone else, who may have been an actual hijacker. We'd know for sure if the real Beumer got on the plane, if only the airport surveillance video did not mysteriously disappear (or even more mysteriously, was never made.) Someone with very deep connections in airport security at Newark Liberty airport wanted to make sure we did not see who actually got on that flight.

The call made to Lisa Jefferson, therefore, may have been made by the phony "Todd Beumer" on UAL93-- or by someone else entirely at a different location.... someone who knew many details of Todd's life.

It is just pure emotionalism to cry that someone's Judaism does not make them guilty of every crime. Obviously, it is not being suggested that Beumer was Jewish or a criminal. However, the history of the state of Israel's past secret operations, such as false flag operations and assassinations, is well documented. We'd be remiss if we did not investigate the ties to Israel of all those connected with 9/11

Oh really? There's no evidence that any of these people were involved in any sinister activity on 9/11?

It is public knowledge that flight attendant Betty Ong identified the seat numbers of four of the hijackers on AAL11. She named seats 9A, 9B, 2A and 2B. The authenticity of Ong's call is not in doubt, as we have tapes of some of it. (The rest of the recording mysteriously disappeared.) Her reporting of the seat numbers is not questioned by anyone; it was reported in the Boston Globe.

Seat 9B was assigned to the above-mentioned Daniel Lewin, a former captain in the elite commando unit Seyerat Metkal, who abruptly resigned his post to emigrate to the US at age 27 and, almost magically, overnight, becomes an internet billionaire.

Seat 9A was assigned to Nathan Glazer. Glazer is a Jewish surname. As Hawk has pointed out, Glazer worked for a firm owned by two men with extensive Israeli backgrounds.

Is it possible both Lewin and Glazer were sent their respective careers to transform them into bright-eyed, bushy-tailed "American" businessmen, the kind whom you would never imagine could perform any kind of terrorist attacks?

Seat numbers 2A and 2B were assigned to Waleed and Wail al-Shehri, two Saudi brothers who later turned up alive and well in the Middle East. Who was really sitting in their seats? Perhaps dark-skinned Israeli agents, playing the role of "Arab" hijackers, to fool the passengers into reporting an Arab hijacking in their phone calls and thus frame the Arab world in general?

The fact that an eyewitness identified the seat numbers of two Israel-connected men as hijackers is enough to justify our taking a close look at the Israeli connections of the passengers on the other flights as well.

In interviews with Jefferson, she has said that Beamer told her his wife was several months pregnant, and he was afraid that calling her from a hijacked aircraft might endanger the baby's health (Lisa Beamer gave birth to a daughter in January of 2002).

Additionally, it must be noted that Beamer was actually doing the right thing in that situation by providing information about the hijacked flight to the proper authorities. While hearing his wife's voice might have been a wonderful thing for him personally, Beamer obviously realized that he could do more for the other passengers and for people on the ground by staying on the line with someone in a position to aid the government response. He did, however, make Jefferson promise to call his wife afterwards.

What's your source on this? According to the interviews I've seen, Beamer asked her to recite the Lord's Prayer with him. This prayer, which according the Bible was passed from Jesus to His disciples as a model for proper prayer, is one of the most well-known passages in Scripture. Anyone who attends church on a regular basis would definitely be able to recite it from memory.

Again, what is your source on this? Given that the call ended with Beamer telling Jefferson that a group of passengers had decided to rush the hijackers, it seems quite evident that the people in that area were communicating. And even if Beamer and Burnett did not directly speak face-to-face (perhaps there were several other passengers between them and messages were passed along in whisper from person to person, a la the game of "Telephone"), how does this cast doubt on the call's legitimacy?

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Were there other calls claiming that the hijackers had somehow left the aircraft prior to that time? If so, then why were the passengers still speaking into their cell phones in hushed urgent voices?

When you say "almost everyone", I have to assume you are referring to other members of the 9/11 Truth movement, because the vast majority of the American public still believes that recording to be credible. Unless you have evidence otherwise, you can't rule it out so categorically.

Source?



I'm afraid my access to a computer is limited at the moment, but I will be back on within the next three days to address the remainder of your points.