Title: Burning Of The Reichstag: How Nazis Took Power
Description: History Repeatng
disallusioned - April 4, 2007 08:32 PM (GMT)
Hellow all,
After seeing loose change for the first time I began to realize almost immediately the similarities to the manner in which the Nazis took power in Germany in 1933. The Nazis burned the German Parliment building and blamed a Jewish criminal as pretext for future actions against the Jewish People.
I believe this was the work of permanently appointed law enforcement agencies who have worked closely with permanent members of our congress. Ever notice that a certain few individuals never seem to leave congress no matter how drunk they get or how many scandals they get involved in? Congress is bought and paid for by the corporate heads of multibillion dollar conglomerates who have been reporting record profits since 9/11. Insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, defense contractors are preporting record profits.
It is no longer a congress for the people by the people it is congress for the corporate bottom line by the corporate CEO and CFO.
Those who are responsible for this action could very well be responsible for the collapse of the United States.
chucksheen - April 4, 2007 10:07 PM (GMT)
Welcome and thank you so much for joining.
Please become a huge activist and pass out DVDs everywhere.
There is so much evidence and material it's like drinking from a firehouse.
Peace.
thehighwaymanq - April 5, 2007 02:10 AM (GMT)
UKperspective - April 5, 2007 11:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (disallusioned @ Apr 4 2007, 08:32 PM) |
Hellow all,
After seeing loose change for the first time I began to realize almost immediately the similarities to the manner in which the Nazis took power in Germany in 1933. The Nazis burned the German Parliment building and blamed a Jewish criminal as pretext for future actions against the Jewish People. |
Hi,
I actually visited Berlin and stood on the top of the Reichstag 2 weeks ago. It is a very interesting building.

The story about the burning of the reichstag is interesting as it was the impetus for the german people to vote in the nazis in elections, and it could easily have been a genuine attack. Not a set up. It cannot be proved either way.
What is more worthy of note in that era was the later justification of the invasion of poland. Which was a genuine false flag, and certainly more a important example for these debates in comparison to 9-11
Wikipedia - the Gleiwitz incident| QUOTE |
The Gleiwitz incident was a staged attack on 31 August 1939 against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz, Upper Silesia, Germany (since 1945: Gliwice, Republic of Poland) on the eve of World War II in Europe.
This provocation was one of several actions in Operation Himmler, a Nazi Germany project to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany, which would be used to justify the subsequent invasion of Poland.
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German agents actually dressed as polish soldiers before crossing the border back into germany and attacking a transmittion tower. All this was staged in front of the german reporters who would report this "crime" to the german people via the Nazi propoganda machine.
thehighwaymanq - April 6, 2007 02:23 AM (GMT)
i think ur pic link is dead
UKperspective - April 6, 2007 08:57 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (thehighwaymanq @ Apr 6 2007, 02:23 AM) |
| i think ur pic link is dead |
Actually I copied that link from another forum,
it was just meant to be a thumbnail but the image hosting site put the click message on.
if you want the full size pic click here
Full size pic ;)
IVXX - April 10, 2007 06:47 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (chucksheen @ Apr 4 2007, 05:07 PM) |
Welcome and thank you so much for joining.
Please become a huge activist and pass out DVDs everywhere.
There is so much evidence and material it's like drinking from a firehouse.
Peace. |
That's fire hydrant. :lol:
kupci - April 11, 2007 04:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (UKperspective @ Apr 5 2007, 06:06 AM) |
| The story about the burning of the reichstag is interesting as it was the impetus for the german people to vote in the nazis in elections, and it could easily have been a genuine attack. Not a set up. It cannot be proved either way. |
Vote in the Nazi elections? They really didn't have much choice, this was what was called a decapitation, like the effort early in the Iraq war to knock out Saddam with a missile. The Communists and Socialists were eliminated. The Germans could vote, as long as it was for Nazis. Shirer has an interesting chapter on how the Nazis at first tried to provoke, even going so far as to harass Catholics, but this failed to create any sort of revolts. But then a miracle: the Reichstag fire. According to
William L. Shirer | QUOTE |
| Even at Nuremberg the mystery could not be entirely unraveled, though there is enough evidence to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the Nazis who planned the arson and carried it out for their own political ends. |
Also, from the same book (Rise and Fall of the Third Reich):
| QUOTE |
| The idea for the fire almost certainly originated with Goebbels and Goering. Hans Gisevius, an official in the Prussian Ministry of the Interior at the time, testified at Nuremberg that "it was Goebbels who first thought of setting the Reichstag on fire," and Rudolf Diels, the Gestapo chief, added in an affidavit that "Goering knew exactly how the fire was to be started" and had ordered him "to prepare, prior to the fire, a list of people who were to be arrested immediately after it." General Franz Halder, Chief of the German General Staff during the early part of World War II, recalled at Nuremberg how on one occasion Goering had boasted of his deed. |
Few interesting notes from this and other articles:
(1) There was a tunnel from Goering's palace to the Reichstag
(2) Goering, upon hearing of the fire, declared it was the work of the communists, and so along with a Dutchman the happened to find in the burning building itself (who confessed under torture), they also arrested several communist leaders and
(3) suspended parts of the constitution the next day, things like freedom of the press
(4) arrested 4000 people including communists, social democrats and liberals
(5) announced that the communists had many other plans for destruction, but never provided evidence to back up their claims.
Reichstag fire==Instant dictatorship! Very convenient
Interestingly while Goering seems to have played the boy who cried wolf and manifested the communist terror, soon the very nightmare he had created to heel people to his will - became reality as the Reds later demolished Berlin, and took the eastern half of Germany as a "buffer"...
alive and still talking - May 3, 2007 07:49 PM (GMT)
U NEED TO MOVE YOUR SITE TO MORE ACTIVE PLACE IN FORUM, LIKE
INVESTIGATE 911, WHERE MORE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT

GUESS YOU SAW BUSH MAKING APPEARANCE WITH GERMAN CHANCELOR
ON EUROPEAN UNION ISSUES , LOOKED LIKE THE "BIG THREE"
MEETING FROM WORLD WAR II, WHEN WORLD LEADERS TRIED TO COME TO
AN AGREEMENT THAT BENEFITTED "ALL POWERS" .
WE DIDNT KNOW WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH THEN, WE DONT KNOW
WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW--OUR LITTLE POWER PUPPET STANDING
NEXT TO THE GERMAN CHANCELOR.......QUIET BEFORE THE STORM
Oliver - May 4, 2007 09:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (disallusioned @ Apr 4 2007, 08:32 PM) |
Hellow all,
After seeing loose change for the first time I began to realize almost immediately the similarities to the manner in which the Nazis took power in Germany in 1933. The Nazis burned the German Parliment building and blamed a Jewish criminal as pretext for future actions against the Jewish People.
I believe this was the work of permanently appointed law enforcement agencies who have worked closely with permanent members of our congress. Ever notice that a certain few individuals never seem to leave congress no matter how drunk they get or how many scandals they get involved in? Congress is bought and paid for by the corporate heads of multibillion dollar conglomerates who have been reporting record profits since 9/11. Insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, defense contractors are preporting record profits.
It is no longer a congress for the people by the people it is congress for the corporate bottom line by the corporate CEO and CFO.
Those who are responsible for this action could very well be responsible for the collapse of the United States. |
You are wrong. It's still discussed if it was indeed the Nazis who
did the Reichtagsfire. There is simply not enough evidence to
make this claim - even if I think they were behind it, but to state
it as a fact is wrong.