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Title: Elevator Fireball


Badabing_Badaboom - March 10, 2007 12:53 AM (GMT)
Right in the DVD it is said that when the plane hit, it sent a raging fireball down the elevator shafts into the lobby, some 1,300 ft below! Just to say that the plane did manage to break the seal around the shafts and send a fireball down into the lobby, would there not be a hole in the top of the building? Because surely if the fire travelled such a distance down, wouldnt it be able to go the shorter distance upwards and blow a hole in the top? Tell me if this is a stupid idea, im just looking for answers!

chucksheen - March 10, 2007 12:56 AM (GMT)
Good question and concern.

The fireball propaganda is a cover for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQqm8TTYAw

water_bender - March 10, 2007 01:25 AM (GMT)
to further hammer this point home, here are excerpts from the transcripts of the port authority's radio transmissions and p-hone calls :

source : http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-transcripts/


transcript 37
page 6

WTCCH. 09 - POLICE DESK - 3541 CENTER
SEPTEMBER 11,2001
WORLD TRADE CENTER - CH. 09
POLICE DESK - 3541 - CENTER
DURATION: 1.25 HOURS

PAPD OFFICER MAGGETT: Port Authority Police, Officer Maggett.
ED CALDERONE - OCC: Maggett, this is Ed at the OCC. I got word that there's an
explosion down on B-4. We got people hurt down there, B-4.
PAPD OFFICER MAGGETT: B-4?
ED CALDERONE - OCC: Yeah.
PAPD OFFICER MAGGETT: That's (Overlap) right?
ED CALDERONE - OCC: This is Ed Calderone, at the OCC>
PAPD OFFICER MAGGETT: Ed Calderone.
ED CALDERONE - OCC: Yeah.
PAPD OFFICER MAGGETT: All right, thank you.
WTC CH. 09 - POLICE DESK - 354 1 CENTER
ED CALDERONE - OCC: At the seven-seven desk.
PAPD OFFICER MAGGETT: All righty.
ED CALDERONE - OCC: All right, bye-bye.

transcript 36
page 4

WTC - CH. 08 - POLICE DESK - 3541 LEFT
SEPTEMBER 1 1,2001
WORLD TRADE CENTER - CH. 08
POLICE DESK - 3541 LEFT
DURATION: 1:12:58

PAPD OFFICER BRADY: Port Authority Police, Officer Brady.
MALE CALLER - B-4 LEVEL: Officer, help. We're down in the B-4 level. This is
Turner's field office. There's been a big explosion. We've got water lines open. There
seems to be steam and smoke in the area.
PAPD OFFICER BRADY: Okay. Where ... where exactly on B-4?
MALE CALLER - B-4 LEVEL: Turner Construction, right outside the 50-Car. We're
across the hall from the 50-Car.
PAPD OFFICER BRADY: Is there any smoke condition there?
MALE CALLER - B-4 LEVEL: It's ... yeah, we got smoke. I don't how whether it's
from fire, or just dust. We got broken water lines, water all over.
PAPD OFFICER BRADY: (Inaudible) Ladder 1-0.
(SHOUTING - LOUD NOISESISIMULTANEOUS CONVERSATION HEARD IN
BACKGROUND);
MALE: It's One ... One World Trade ... up on the upper ten floors.
MALE: What building (Inaudible) on One?.
MALE: Building One.
PAPD OFFICER BRADY: (Inaudible).
MALE CALLER - B-4 LEVEL: Yeah, you're still with me?
PAPD OFFICER BRADY: Yeah, I'm still, I've just had a (Overlap)
MALE CALLER B-4 LEVEL: (Inaudible), hey, I'm here. I'm on the phone with the
police, how are you guys doing?
PAPD OFFICER BRADY: All right, eighth floor level, they need (Overlap)
MALE CALLER B-4 LEVEL I need an escort to get me out of here.
PAPD OFFICER BRADY: Okay. Okay. We'll get ... we'll get the escorts down there,
as soon as possible.

transcript 10
pg 9
SEPTEMBER 11,2001
PATH - CHANNEL 021
RADIO TRAINMASTER (R2)
DURATION: 3.33 HOURS

PAPD OFFICER DESK: Police desk to 800.
PAPD OFFICER 800: (Inaudible)
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Eight hundred (Inaudible) three nine.
PAPD OFFICER 33: Three-three, desk.
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Go, thirty-three.
PAPD OFFICER 33: Myself and (Inaudible) to the Trade Center responding with scott
packs to the B-4 level. There's a report of a cave-in, and people trapped.
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Roger, three-three and eight-two Houston, World Trade
responding B-4 level on a report of a cave-in.
PAPD OFFICER: ESU units, do you copy?
PAPD OFFICER 33 : Three-three, desk.
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Go, three-three.
PAPD OFFICER 33: There's also been a cave-in at the platform of the PATH plaza ...
there's a live electrical, and water running. Turn off the power in that area.
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Roger.
PAPD OFFICER TRUCK ONE: Truck one, desk.
PAPD OFFICER: Truck one, go.
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Three-three is reporting that there is a cave-in, B-4 level, at
the World Trade, copy? A possibility of people trapped.
PAPD OFFICER TRUCK 1 : Roger, copy. (STATIC) Truck one is now standing by at
the Barclay Street entrance. We have eight-two Callahan (Inaudible) and Gorman.
PAPD OFFICER DESK: Roger. Three-three, stand by at entrance, Building Four and
let ESU handle, they're on the Barclay Street ramp at this time.


transcript 41
pg 6
SEPTEMBER 11,2001
WORLD TRADE CENTER CH. 15
NYC EMS DIRECT LINE

MALE: (Inaudible) ... Brady ...
MALE: (OverlapIInaudible) help . . .
MALE: (Overlap/Inaudible) ... we're down at the B-4 level in (Overlap/Inaudible) ...
field office ...
MALE: (Overlap/Inaudible) . . . seen .. . the fucking area . . . (OverlaplInaudible)
(OVERLAPPING VOICESIINAUDIBLE SECTION)
MALE: Right outside the ... (Inaudible)
MALE: They're across the hall from the 50 car.
MALE: Are there any smoke conditions there?
MALE: (Overlap) three!
MALE: Yeah, we got smoke. I don't know whether it's (Inaudible) soot or whether it's
dust, but we got smoke and water lines ... (Inaudible)
MALE: (Overlap/Inaudible) ... Two World Trade or One World Trade ...
(OverlapIInaudible) the plaza.


MALE: (OverlapIInaudible) ... B-4 level, (Inaudible), copy? He says that, uh, he's got
some guys down there, there's (Inaudible) downstairs, and (Inaudible) advised, copy?
MALE: Be advised (Overlap/Inaudible)


transcript 44
pg 4

SEPTEMBER 11,2001
WORLD TRADE CENTER CH. 22
SHO PD DESK - 2131


MALE: ASAP, six-three, be advised, I have two ABM workers down here on the B2
between the red and the yellow lots. Be advised, I've got two ABM workers hurt. I need
an ER ESP down here ASAP!
MALE: Where do you need the assistance for the ABM workers?
MALE: B2 between the red lot, and the yellow lot, the walkway where the ABM office
is.
MALE: Well, how (AUDIO GARBLED) (Inaudible) up, he seems to be in with the
police now.

FEMALE: (Inaudible) be advised, there is so much smoke on B2 west, we're
evacuating and we're coming up!
MALE: Copy.


transcript 47
pg 6


MALE: 3-C-I(?), please be advised I'm clearing out, evacuating the whole bottom
(Inaudible) with 0-4, and I'll be doing the PATH in both of the concourse areas, copy?
MALE: Roger. Do you have another unit to respond to the B-4 level, and (Inaudible)
construction, they have units down there, because the water pipes have broken down in
that location.
MALE: That's a copy, T-C.
MALE: Roger. (Inaudible) B-4 level, (Inaudible) construction?
MALE: That's affirmative. Copy that.

pg8

MALE: (Inaudible) report from PATH in (Inaudible), going down to the B-4 level.
And (Inaudible) copy?
MALE: Roger. (Inaudible) to B-4 level, for evacuation.
MALE: That's affirmative.

pg 13
MALE: Roger, be advised, (Inaudible), I got a ABM worker, myself and another two
people (Inaudible) A-2 David, we're going to go down to the B-4 level. The ABM guy
says that he's got (Inaudible) from some guys down there, they're trapped downstairs.
We are going to check and advise, copy?
MALE: Roger.

transcript 48
pg 4

MALE: ASAP, six-three, ASAP, six-three!
MALE : (Inaudible) all over.
MALE: ASAP, six-three, be advised, I have two ABM workers down here on B2
. . .ah.. .between the red and the yellow lots. Be advised, I've got two ABM workers hurt.
I need an ER ESP down here ASAP!
MALE: Where do you need the assistance for the ABM workers?
MALE: B2 between the red lot, and the yellow lot, the walkway where the ABM office
is.
MALE : (Inaudible) WTC I'm with the police now.

pg5

MALE : I have a ambulance (inaudible) ... where's that guard?
MALE: Eighth floor, S2, to OSCC.
MALE : Three-thirty, fire command!
MALE : S2 to SCC!
FEMALE 77 TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: Go!
MALE : (AUDIO BREAKING UP) (Inaudible) conditions there?
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: Can you repeat that again, please?
MALE : Josie, what's the condition on twenty-two?
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: Twenty-two is we cannot leave the area.
There is a lot of smoke outside, we are stuck inside.
MALE : The whole top ... it turns out a plane hit the top of the building up around the
78th floor and above. (653)
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: That's a copy. People on the 7th and the 8th
floor are calling. I advised them to take the stairway down. Is that okay?
MALE : Copy.
MALE : FS3, to 3 10-B fire command! We need some announcements on the
concourse, can anybody read me?
MALE : (Inaudible) ten-(inaudible)
MALE : Seven-seven . . . (Inaudible)

pg 11

FEMALE : (Urgent) Six-three to S4, be advised, there is too much smoke on B2 west,
we're evacuating and we're coming up!
MALE : Copy.

pg 15

FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: SCC, S4. (ALARMS IN BACKGROUND)
MALE : Six-three, Evelyn(?) ...
GENE RAGGIO: Go for the S4, go for the S4.
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: (ALARMS IN BACKGROUND) S4, this is
the SCC, we have (inaudible) running ... the air is clearing up just a little bit but we still
can't get out, and we are losing power, we don't have as much power.
GENE RAGGIO: Josie, okay, they are aware that you can't open that door, and they
will be up there, and get that debris out of the way
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: That's a big ten-four, thank you.
MALE : Quartermaster to SCC, be advised the Fire Department is now going to the
elevator banks at L1, L2, copy?
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: That's a big ten-four, thank you.
MALE : Construction manager, the elevator ... the express elevators could be in
jeopardy of falling. Be prepared for that. Do you copy? (24: 12)

pg 24

FEMALE: Um, we're okay. I've blocked the doors with some wet tissue. And that
sucks up some of the smoke. But we still can't get out.
(ALARMS HEARD IN BACKGROUND)
GENE RAGGIO: Okay, and (Inaudible)? (AUDIO IN AND OUT)
FEMALE: We have, uh, the cameras running on all the perimeter outside. (PAUSE)
GENE RAGGIO: Repeat?
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: We have all the cameras up on the outside
perimeter. When ... when the, uh, smoke detectors set off, that means the smoke subsided
a little bit. We have the doors blocked with wet tissue.
(ALARM HEARD IN BACKGROUND)
GENE RAGGIO: Okay, we are working our way up to 22.
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: That's a copy, thank you.

pg 31
MALE S2: How are you doing up there?
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: S2,. urn, we're hanging in there. Everything
is OK okay for now. (ALARMS CAN BE HEARD IN BACKGROUND)
WTC Ch. 27 - RADIO CHANNEL X - SECURITY
MALE: We're on 16 right now.
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: That's a copy. We can't use the software
right now to try to release the doors. But it can't ...
MALE: There's a (Overlap)
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: There's no power for the doors. (PAUSE)
MALE: Did you copy that, S2?
MALE: I said we're on 16, working our way up.
FEMALE TRAPPED ON 22ND FLOOR: That's a big ten-four, thank you.




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