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Title: The Oil Factor: Behind The War On Terror
Description: new google video


Yamaha baby grand - February 20, 2007 03:24 AM (GMT)
I came recently across this new footage that I wanted to share with you:
http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=1130731388742388243
The Oil Factor: Behind the War on Terror

I find it pretty interesting, it is really worth watching it, although it does not
connect the 911 events with corrupt elements within the bush administration.
In the video there is a long interview of a shameless PNAC guy.
What he has to say is beyond believe.

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Truth will prevail

Reggie_perrin - February 20, 2007 11:52 PM (GMT)
No it's just a coincidence that the countries they are invading have massive oil reserves, it's just a coincidence that pre 9/11 Dick cheney and co identified where all the oil was and stated the middle east is where "the prize ultimatly lies", it's just a coincidence that 9/11 happned and gave them the keys to the prize, it's just a coincidence that the PNAC boys identified that there plans would likly be drawn out and a long process absent a catalyizing event like a new pearl harbor and 1 year later they get it....just coincidence.....now go back to bed.

Yamaha baby grand - February 21, 2007 08:38 AM (GMT)
"It's obvious he is dirty".

- "Obvious to us. Yes!"

(Quote from "Who killed John O'Neil?", 54:20 min)
Who killed John O'Neil?

Wibble - February 24, 2007 02:32 PM (GMT)
If I wanted to get cheaper oil I would definitely come up with some overly elaborate conspiracy which kills 3000 + innocent civilians.

No choice at all, 5 cents a gallon or 3000 lives?

Reggie_perrin - February 24, 2007 03:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wibble @ Feb 24 2007, 02:32 PM)
If I wanted to get cheaper oil I would definitely come up with some overly elaborate conspiracy which kills 3000 + innocent civilians.

No choice at all, 5 cents a gallon or 3000 lives?

Yeh but it's not just about cheap oil is it, it's much bigger than that, it's about geo-politically positioning themselves in anticipation of the peak oil crisis which will result in energy wars, 9/11 gave them the pre-text to invade these countries and build huge new miltary basis to protect the oil, 9/11 gave them the head start over countries like Russia and china, deprerate times call for desperate measures, they knew there was no way the American population would acquiesce to whats happening now, unless they were faced with what Zbrignew described as "a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.".

The 9/11 cow has all but been milked and there is now a sea change beginning to take place in America, i would'nt be surpised is they pulled of something else to justify and create a pre text for the plans they have for Iran, because the neo-cons are itching to hit Iran right now.

Yamaha baby grand - February 25, 2007 06:15 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wibble @ Feb 24 2007, 02:32 PM)
No choice at all, 5 cents a gallon or 3000 lives?

You did not watch the video at all if you are questioning this. It is about to control
main oil ressources and to get rid of the OPEC for the next hundred years. And in
controlling the most important of all energy ressources you simply rule this world,
because the others are depending on you. Well, that is what PNAC thinks.

You never questioned why they want to invade Iran the next few months?

Don' t ask, just let FOX News tell you that a new Gulf of Tonkin incident
has just forced the USA to bomb Iran, to kill their leader, to invade the land,
to bring "democracy" and to give the oil pipelines to Halliburton or other
american companies.

calvin - February 26, 2007 02:08 AM (GMT)
Even our own military says that an attack on Iran would not achieve its mission. We would slow down their nuclear enrichment program, not stop it. The only way to stop it would be a full invasion of Iran, with a million troops. This is simply not going to happen.

niro - February 26, 2007 01:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (calvin @ Feb 26 2007, 02:08 AM)
Even our own military says that an attack on Iran would not achieve its mission. We would slow down their nuclear enrichment program, not stop it. The only way to stop it would be a full invasion of Iran, with a million troops. This is simply not going to happen.

huh? that makes no sense.. Im sorry but nuclear enrichment isnt exactly small you cant do it in back yard shed. All american would need do is bomb certain sites and threat is gone. You dont need 1 million troops and complete control of every single person to stop enrichment process. Its hard enough to enrich it alone with latest technology and state of art faculities.. Its not a back yard job that anyone can do.. Thats somthing bush would say to justify complete invasion, it nesseary to control the "enrichment process" aka oil...

Reggie_perrin - March 2, 2007 12:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (calvin @ Feb 26 2007, 02:08 AM)
Even our own military says that an attack on Iran would not achieve its mission.  We would slow down their nuclear enrichment program, not stop it.  The only way to stop it would be a full invasion of Iran, with a million troops.  This is simply not going to happen.

There mission isnt about stopping Iranian nuclear enrichment, it's all about REGIME CHANGE, the nuclear issue is just an excuse, they want to replace the present regime in Iran with one that is US friendly (like the new Iraq regime and Afgahnistan regime, Irans next on there list), an attack on Iran IMO if 80%-90% certain right now, absent a miricle, the rhetoric coming out of the whitehouse if virtually identical to that of the build up to the Iraq invasion, it's frieghteningly identical.it could well be a joint strike between Isreal and the US, imagine what this is going to look like to the muslim world at large ? :blink: :blink: :blink:

hoagy - March 23, 2007 01:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Yamaha baby grand @ Feb 25 2007, 01:15 PM)
QUOTE (Wibble @ Feb 24 2007, 02:32 PM)
No choice at all, 5 cents a gallon or 3000 lives?

You did not watch the video at all if you are questioning this. It is about to control
main oil ressources and to get rid of the OPEC for the next hundred years. And in
controlling the most important of all energy ressources you simply rule this world,
because the others are depending on you. Well, that is what PNAC thinks.

You never questioned why they want to invade Iran the next few months?

Don' t ask, just let FOX News tell you that a new Gulf of Tolkin incident
has just forced the USA to to bomb Iran, to kill the leader, to invade the land,
to bring "democracy" and to give the oil pipelines to Halliburton or other
american companies.

So, after they have taken over the World and all it's Oil; What's their next `big plan`?. Us in the West and Europe etc... are presently having our `Basic Human Rights` and our `Freedoms` being restricted more and more,at an alarming rate.
Britain is now a more "big brother" society than Communist Russia was under Stalin!, and the same is happening in America. A person can hardly step outside his/her front door in Britain and not be caught on camera. When they start fighting over "Water" will someone come and "Liberate" us?.

UKperspective - March 31, 2007 07:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Reggie_perrin @ Feb 20 2007, 11:52 PM)
No it's just a coincidence that the countries they are invading have massive oil reserves, it's just a coincidence that pre 9/11 Dick cheney and co identified where all the oil was and stated the middle east is where "the prize ultimatly lies"

It is not a coincidence that the shareholders of the automobile companies are also shareholders of oil companies, and that they refuse to make cheap affordable or good looking cars that run on electricity or fuel cell technology instead of oil.

They want the whole world to drive cars which run on fossil fuel, because it would be like collecting tax from everyone on the planet.

What most people are not aware of is that the technology to make sports electric cars already exist. One vehicle which is based upon a lotus elise is capable of 150mph and it is very cheap to run.

General motors famously made a range of electric city cars which proved extremely sucessful and were endorsed by several celebrities, but according to a recent documentory, they took them all back and crushed them. :o


It is perfectly possible to make electric cars which are fast and idential in appearence to current cars, but if you think about it, they would never go wrong and need hardly any maintenance. No oil change, no fuel, no spark plugs, no exhausts, no belts, no filters.

The only things fully electric cars would need is brake maintenance, tires and winscreen wiper blades. The motor industry would loose 75% of it's service work which is a big income stream for them.

UKperspective - March 31, 2007 07:19 PM (GMT)
Silly me, I have just realised ( I am an electronic engineer after all ) An electric car doesn't need any brakes. Electric motors can do all that.

If an electric motor drives each wheel indipendently, then a control sytem can provide four wheel drive and breaking to each wheel. Feedback can be used from the coils in the motors to detect traction and give the wheels ABS and traction control too.

The vehicle would require no transmission tunnel or gearbox, it would have a very low centre of gravity. Instead of an engine with thousands of parts it would only need minimal moving parts in the electric motor/s


No wonder the Automobile industry is repressing electric vehicle technology.

alive and still talking - April 10, 2007 08:50 AM (GMT)
As far back as 1981, I knew this country was going down the TUBES, I was at
the HEIGHT of my career as an oil company employee, we may not have made it
our business as employees to know EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON around
us (for that, we were hired, since secrecy was imperative) because office personel
HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT. Things started happening which did NOT add up. The
MAPS of oil wells, posted RATE OF PRODUCTION of existing wells, NEW WELLS DRILLED that HIT oil or gas, and posted RATE OF PRODUCTION on NEW WELLS.
We could not ignore things going on around us, because what was happening
to THIS NATION, and what we could READ ON THE MAPS, DID NOT ADD UP:

once, already, the NATION was standing in line at the GAS PUMP...........

people were THREATENED with LOOSING THEIR JOBS if they could'nt get to work

GASOLINE SUPPLY WAS SCARCE OUTSIDE, posted figures THE SAME inside

OPEC DROPPED the price per barrel to 50 cents, they knew that CAPITALISTS

would adjust their purse strings and CAP ALL THE PRODUCING WELLS at home

AND START BUYING ARAB OIL, so WE DID, almost overnight, people in the

office were getting PINK SLIPS, only employees VITAL in the TASK OF MAPPING

all the PRODUCING WELLS and marking them as CAPPED, were allowed to stay

behind:

WE KNEW THAT OIL PRICES WERE BEING MANIPULATED, DROPPED SO LOW,

THAT CORPORATIONS WOULD FOLD IF THEY DID NOT HAVE HOLDINGS

OVERSEAS. LIKE LITTLE TRAINED RATS, THE OIL-BASED CAPITALIST SYSTEM

WENT INTO GEAR, TRYING TO RECOVER BY SHIFTING OUR ATTENTION

OVERSEAS AS A CONSUMER, THEY EXPECTED THAT. AS CAPITALISTS, OUR

ONLY FOCUS WAS PROFIT, NO ONE TOLD THE PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH OUR

LEADERS KNEW, THEY DID NOT TELL US, THE FEW WHO DID, COMMITTED

POLITICAL SUICIDE WHEN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, BY THE MERE MENTION OF

ALTERNATIVE ENERGY.WHILE THE COST OF PRODUCING OIL REMAINED BELOW $

32 PER BARREL, THE INCENTIVE..........

TO MOVE FOREWARD WITH PRODUCTION WAS NOT THERE. BANKS FOLDED (big oil investors)THE STOCK MARKET CRASHED, PEOPLE LOST THEIR JOBS, THEIR HOMES, THEIR CARS, THEIR SAVINGS, MEN COMMITTED SUICIDE BECAUSE THEY COULD NOTFEED THEIR FAMILIES, COULD NOT FIND WORK. WE HAD A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE THEN..........

WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE NOW. A STUPID ONE, NO LESS.

WHEN IS THIS COUNTRY GOING TO LEARN FROM ITS OWN MISTAKES? OUR OIL
RESERVES ARE JUST AS BIG AS THEIRS. WE WERE LED OVER THERE TO FEED
OUR EVER-INCREASING DEMAND FOR OIL. SINCE THE LAST FIASCO, WE AS
A NATION HAVE LEARNED "NOTHING" FROM OUR MISTAKES.

WE THINK THAT WE ARE "SO" GREAT, YET PEOPLE IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES
PAY AS LITTLE AS 50 CENTS PER GALLON AT THE PUMP. WE HAVE NOT SOUGHT
OUT ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE OUR MILITARY DOES
NOT WANT TO SHARE THE TECHNOLOGY THEY ARE ALREADY USING. THEY
PREFER TO CALL IT "SENSITIVE TO NATIONAL SECURITY" WHEN IN FACT SUCH
BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO OUR SECURITY.

AN ASTRONAUT FROM INDIA SAID IT PLAINLY BEFORE RE-ENTRY AND GETTING
BLOWN UP, "WE ALREADY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO RUN OUR CARS ON
FUEL CELLS" IF SHE HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO LIVE, SHE WOULD HAVE SHARED
HER SECRET WITH US. COMPRESSED LIQUID GASES BOTTLES , MIXED
WITH COMPRESSED LIQUID OXYGEN . COLLEGE KIDS ARE DOING IT, WHY CAN'T
WE ? IS OUR LOVE FOR OIL WORTH KILLING OUR KIDS ?

IF WE HAD COMPETENT LEADERSHIP, WE WOULD NOT BE IN THE FIX WE ARE
NOW IN.........AGAIN, WE ARE DRILLING ON DOMESTIC SOIL.....AGAIN OPEC
WILL SOMEDAY DROP THE PRICE PER BARREL, FORCING CAPITALISTS TO CAP
ALL OUR WELLS, WAITING FOR THE PRICE TO GO UP SO THEY CAN GET RICH.
AGAIN, THE SAME STUPID CHAIN OF EVENTS WILL FOLLOW.
REPUBLICANS WILL MANIPULATE OUR THINKING USING FEAR-FACTOR ALONG
THOSE LINES, THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF OPTIONS SINCE WE AS A NATION ARE
STARTING TO SEE THE LIGHT. ALL THOSE WHO ARE GETTING RICH OFF OF
CURRENT EVENTS( INCLUDING OPEC ) WANT EVERYTHING TO STAY THE SAME.


TIME TO ELECT A NEW PRESIDENT INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THINGS TO GET
WORSE. iF WE WERE TO GET OUR LEADERS TO IMPEACH TOMORROW, CHENEY
WOULD NOT BE ANY IMPROVEMENT. HE IS NOW HITTING THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
FOR THE REPUBLICANS BY HITTING TH CHURCH CIRCUIT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, PEOPLE........BUT WHEN OUR KIDS STARTED GETTING SLAUGHTERED OVER THERE FOR OIL, THINGS WERE ALREADY
BAD ENOUGH:

WE NEED TO PULL OUR KIDS OUT OF THERE

WE NEED TO NATIONALIZE DOMESTIC OIL,

WE NEED TO STOP IMPORTING OIL

WE NEED TO VIGOROUSLY PURSUE ALTERNATIVE FUELS

WE NEED TO START E-MAILING OUR LEADERS

WE NEED TO START MAKING PEOPLE AWARE THAT THEY'VE BEEN SHAFTED


UKperspective - April 10, 2007 09:28 AM (GMT)
You wouldn't believe what we pay to fill up our cars here in the UK
Between 86 and 90p per litre, for unleaded. And most of it is government taxes.

That's between $6.42 to $6.70 per US gallon

To get these figures I have had to convert litres to UK gallons to US gallons, and UKpounds to US$ so I could easily have made a mistake.




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