Title: Reasons We Have To Log In?
Bsadik - October 19, 2006 12:53 AM (GMT)
Hello,
I’m a fellow truther that frequents this site and many others on a daily basis to keep current with information and events. Maybe I don’t see the bigger picture but I don’t understand why someone would change the old system of not having members sign in if they didn’t want to. I understand its not that much work to sign up and sign in, and also there is an option of REMEMBER ME as you sign in, but wouldn’t having to sign up make some turn away? I for instance have come to notice, if I am in my car forums and someone directs me to a fellow forum that I wont sign up to go see the information. This is mainly due to having to sign up and in to that forum. This is a tedious task if you have many usernames and passwords to remember and or you have to sign in each time to a different site. Thanks for reading in advance
Billy
anonymous123 - October 19, 2006 03:52 PM (GMT)
I agree with you 100% Bsadik. Some places make registration tedious but I still register anyway. Having some turn away because of registration makes a forum slightly less great.
ICE420 - October 19, 2006 04:40 PM (GMT)
i log on using a fingerprint reader, saves a hell of a lot of pissin aroud
MJChicago - October 19, 2006 05:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ICE420 @ Oct 19 2006, 11:40 AM) |
| i log on using a fingerprint reader, saves a hell of a lot of pissin aroud |
:ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r:
Yeah registered does kind of kill traffic in the grand scheme of things. There were always 2x as many guests lurking around than members, so mandatory registration probably defers some people because they dont want to spend 40 seconds working it all out.
anonymous123 - October 19, 2006 06:06 PM (GMT)
Registration is pointless if you only go to the site once. On the other hand, it does reduce the amount of people in the forum, which sometimes can be a good thing
if more people means more noobs and spammers.
tsire - October 19, 2006 06:14 PM (GMT)
Maybe it keeps the site faster if less people are lurking.
dylan avery - October 19, 2006 06:37 PM (GMT)
back in the good old days, perhaps. but this website and forum gets so many hits from people who just want to cause trouble that we have to take certain steps to protect ourselves.
besides. if someone really wants to read this forum, it only takes a matter of seconds to register, even if they only come here once, it'll remember who they are.
that's just my opinion. just tryin out new techniques.
Mazza - October 19, 2006 07:54 PM (GMT)
[COLOR=blue] Hi there Just wanted to say Hi. I visited that rude site Screw Loose recently to see what these people believed regarding 911 and the government and I have to say that its very difficult to remain polite and courtious when you make a point that disagrees with their beliefs, they all jump on you like a pack of snarling wolves. I just happened to ask "how many people here believe in Bush's War on Terror? One person said he did not. The rest of them insulted me, patronised me, were racist ( I am from Ireland) I mean ffs. I hate to admit that they goaded me to ask.... Hey guys,,,, why dont america come into Ireland and root our any terrorists they might find over here,,,,oh yeah,,,,, We dont have any oil..... Then the insults sort of took off from there.... I guess there are people out there who refuse to see whats right on front of their eyes. Anyway, I have sent links to Loose change to all my friends and family... Some are very sceptical, others wont even look at the links but... I know I have awoken at least 5 people which i know isnt very much but they each may awaken 5 move...
tehtehteh - October 19, 2006 09:02 PM (GMT)
awaken..... you make it sound like your trying to force people to believe you, like a cult trys to force people to join ( if this is any sort of cult i want nothing to do with it)
why not try sending people all the evidence you can find and let them decide for them self...
especially since the whole loose change thing started with dylan doing a media project for school and not even believing what he was saying
am i right ?
MJChicago - October 19, 2006 09:10 PM (GMT)
dylan avery - October 19, 2006 09:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tehtehteh @ Oct 19 2006, 09:02 PM) |
especially since the whole loose change thing started with dylan doing a media project for school and not even believing what he was saying
am i right ? |
nope, you're dead wrong.
Grayson - October 19, 2006 09:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dylan avery @ Oct 19 2006, 09:13 PM) |
nope, you're dead wrong. |
Doesn't take long for myth to obscure fact does it... :lol:
Zep - October 20, 2006 11:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dylan avery @ Oct 19 2006, 09:13 PM) |
| QUOTE (tehtehteh @ Oct 19 2006, 09:02 PM) | especially since the whole loose change thing started with dylan doing a media project for school and not even believing what he was saying
am i right ? |
nope, you're dead wrong.
|
What ARE the facts, then, please?
Mazza - October 20, 2006 12:14 PM (GMT)
ok awaken may be the wrong word but come on you know what I mean...Would the words "open your eyes" seem cultish as well? Anyway, I did send them on the links to Loose change 2nd edition and 911 mysteries. As far as I am concerned you must be able to view all evidence with an open mind if you are to make an informed decision. If they choose now to look at these movies that is their decision to make. I have no intention of forcing it down their throats.
ICE420 - October 20, 2006 01:11 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mazza @ Oct 19 2006, 07:54 PM) |
| [COLOR=blue] Hi there Just wanted to say Hi. I visited that rude site Screw Loose recently to see what these people believed regarding 911 and the government and I have to say that its very difficult to remain polite and courtious when you make a point that disagrees with their beliefs, they all jump on you like a pack of snarling wolves. I just happened to ask "how many people here believe in Bush's War on Terror? One person said he did not. The rest of them insulted me, patronised me, were racist ( I am from Ireland) I mean ffs. I hate to admit that they goaded me to ask.... Hey guys,,,, why dont america come into Ireland and root our any terrorists they might find over here,,,,oh yeah,,,,, We dont have any oil..... Then the insults sort of took off from there.... I guess there are people out there who refuse to see whats right on front of their eyes. Anyway, I have sent links to Loose change to all my friends and family... Some are very sceptical, others wont even look at the links but... I know I have awoken at least 5 people which i know isnt very much but they each may awaken 5 move... |
HEy Mazza,
Welcome, i to am from the Emerald Isle,
Paul,
tehtehteh - October 20, 2006 03:34 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| nope, you're dead wrong. |
so facts ? i will admit i was wrong, so what really started off loose change dylan ?
Mazza - October 20, 2006 03:53 PM (GMT)
Hey paul, thanks for the welcome.
I wonder if enough people refused to vote on election day, would the election be considered void due to the fact they feel it is a complete sham as the voting machines can be tampered with.?..
Its seems unfortunate that so many people have been made aware that america is going down the pan and with the help of Loose change and Alex Jones etc more and more people are aware of such a corrupt government .
I know that knowledge is power but my point is... its akin to sitting on a sinking ship, knowing it is sinking but commenting on the proceedings as it goes down, I know that there was a big demonstration in 11th of september which was very sucessful but a lot of Americans seem to be very lacksadaisal about the whole thing... Like.... yeah we know our government is corrupt,,, yeah we know that the election will probably be fixed... etc What are you going to do about it.... What can you do about it? Something needs to be done before its too late.
Stuinthere2 - October 20, 2006 04:00 PM (GMT)
Trust me, it's good to have a registration. I used to have a 911truth for youngsters site with no log in. I got spammed a bit and eventually hacked...
Bsadik - October 20, 2006 09:44 PM (GMT)
I’m not saying that registering is bad. What I was suggesting was logging in to actually READ the forums is bad. I wouldn’t have a problem with logging in to put my 2 cents in, it having to do it before I can access the reading material that turns me off to the idea. It makes me feel like this information is meant for privileged people who are registered only. If that’s the case then all the work any of us have done to try and show people the truth was made in vein.
Stuinthere2 - October 21, 2006 08:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Bsadik @ Oct 20 2006, 09:44 PM) |
| I’m not saying that registering is bad. What I was suggesting was logging in to actually READ the forums is bad. I wouldn’t have a problem with logging in to put my 2 cents in, it having to do it before I can access the reading material that turns me off to the idea. It makes me feel like this information is meant for privileged people who are registered only. If that’s the case then all the work any of us have done to try and show people the truth was made in vein. |
I see your point.
LoveCraken - October 21, 2006 08:35 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Stuinthere2 @ Oct 20 2006, 04:00 PM) |
| Trust me, it's good to have a registration. I used to have a 911truth for youngsters site with no log in. I got spammed constantly and eventually hacked... |
We didn't get spammed constantly.
I was the administrator of the forum and we didn't get spammed constantly.
We had a few people on there who didn't agree with us, which in my opinion is a good thing because you have debate going on.
And we did get hacked, but there was no "constant spamming" that you refer to going on beforehand.
The_Animus - October 21, 2006 10:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dylan avery @ Oct 19 2006, 09:13 PM) |
| QUOTE (tehtehteh @ Oct 19 2006, 09:02 PM) | especially since the whole loose change thing started with dylan doing a media project for school and not even believing what he was saying
am i right ? |
nope, you're dead wrong.
|
Actually Dylan started with making a fictional film, and yes, as such, did not even believe what he was saying.
Now he spends tens of thousands of dollars spreading the truth only to make hundreds of thousands of dollars back in sales.
But pretty soon he will hopefully finish Loose Change: Final Cut which will be in theaters and then he can make millions instead.
Just to show everyone how honest you are about your quote from your website...
| QUOTE |
| Please note, we charge as little as we can for what we sell. |
Why don't you post a complete record of all of Louder Than Words's financial transactions online. Including sales from your shop, money from appearances and interviews, money from donations, money you make from your film (LCFC after it comes out), and all of your expenses. That way everyone can see for themselves that you are in it for the truth and not in it to make millions.
I mean, you wouldn't want to be the next Micheal Moore would you?
Mazza - October 21, 2006 01:10 PM (GMT)
There is always one isnt there!!...Why the sarcasm friend? They have absolutely no reason to post any transactions regarding loose change. He didnt post them when he was putting all his own money into funding it.. Why should he do it now? Nobody is forcing anyone to pay for anything, He and his friends dont have to justify anything to you or any of us...
tehtehteh - October 21, 2006 03:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
Actually Dylan started with making a fictional film, and yes, as such, did not even believe what he was saying.
Now he spends tens of thousands of dollars spreading the truth only to make hundreds of thousands of dollars back in sales.
But pretty soon he will hopefully finish Loose Change: Final Cut which will be in theaters and then he can make millions instead.
Just to show everyone how honest you are about your quote from your website...
|
so you just agreed with me...... that makes me wrong how?
Quorn - October 21, 2006 11:37 PM (GMT)
Delete and ban these tedious trolls dylan please(tehteh etc.), they're more transparent than school toilet paper. You ought to keep the decks scrubbed clean on this new enterprise.
peace all
geoffl21 - October 25, 2006 06:38 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mazza @ Oct 21 2006, 01:10 PM) |
| There is always one isnt there!!...Why the sarcasm friend? They have absolutely no reason to post any transactions regarding loose change. He didnt post them when he was putting all his own money into funding it.. Why should he do it now? Nobody is forcing anyone to pay for anything, He and his friends dont have to justify anything to you or any of us... |
I am a new "registered user" of this forum but a long time reader of it. I've received a lot of good information from this forum that has allowed me to conduct my own research and create my own opinion. I'm very skeptical of now having to register and give my e-mail address (something that can be used by the right people to get some of your personal information). It seems ironic to me that the values and ideals that LC and the likes of Alex Jones says not to trust are now being forced on the "truthers." It's saddening to me that I feel that I now have to be skeptical of this forum and its motives. Just a thought, and I hope I'm proven wrong.
philadelphia - October 28, 2006 03:31 AM (GMT)
I have to say (as a newbie myself) that the above poster has a good point.
At the end of the day there are many, many 'truth' seekers (myself included) who believe in democracy. We don't want revolution or talk of governments being corrupt etc etc. We know very well that INDIVIDUALS WITHIN GOVERNMENTS are corrupt. In fact, most of us know that 9/11 was an inside job. But that's a very different thing than the creeping opinion that we must end the government. I do NOT believe that. I strongly believe that the USA Constitution is the ONLY defence we have against tyrany.
I also believe that evil men are more and more attacking the idea of government itself. We MUST be careful in these areas.
I repeat that I am a democratic person who believes wholeheartedly in democratic solutions.
We are not living in a tyrany. We are living in a time when parts of the government and parts of other agencies such as the police/fire department etc. were surely involved in the events of 9/11. BUT NOT THE VAST MAJORITY.
The 9/11 truth movement must never be cynically exploited by those who, themselves, may be involved in dragging us away from democracy.
Anyway, that's my strong view. We all realise that evil men can and do use websites and even video images and media corporations to pervert the truth.
I believe the ordinary man in the street is right to demand 9/11 truth and he is also right to cherish and hold fast to the democratic Constitution of the USA. The same in the UK.
Governments must be accountable. Sure. But that is what democracy should be all about. There is no other way.
Evil men want a state of emergency. They spin stories. Some of them may even be big names. America needs to distance itself from jesuitry and it also needs to focus solely on getting to the truth of what happened on 9/11 - this within the law and respectful of others who may disagree with us.
America united can beat these bastards. They want to divide us by wooing us away from lawful, democratic government. This we should never accept.
The litmus test is the American Constitution. I wholeheartedly support it and always will.