Just Saw This Movie (Loose Change Forum)

Title: Just Saw This Movie

garet007 - January 6, 2008 06:02 PM (GMT)

I am glad to say I downloaded instead of paying any sort of money for it.

The main problem with the movie is that it starts with a conclusion, and uses as many out of context quotes as it can to make it seem true. I honestly thought this was some sort of joke at first. Nobody can expect to use the logic portrayed in this video and be taken seriously, right? Well, I came to this forum and found out I was wrong on that one.

Another major flaw is that omission of related media is not in any way, shape or form evidence of wrongdoing. That's ridiculous.

One of the biggest flaws however, is disturbing. The claim is that the US government is actually powerful and resourceful enough to pull this off without anybody knowing. They couldn't keep the Watergate thing under warps, or the Bill/Monica affair, but they can keep this hidden? Haha.

Another funny part was when they compared normal high rise fires, with buildings half as tall, to the fact that freaking jets crashed into the trade centers. You know, jet fuel fueled fire would burn as hot as a regular fire feeding on an office. Who needs logic. Comparing "regular" plane crashes to a plane that crashed into the ground at 500 mph was also funny.

Perhaps the creator should make a holocaust denial video next.

Keep wearing the tin foil hats.

chucksheen - January 6, 2008 06:34 PM (GMT)

[1] Please be specific and give the title of the film you are referencing.

[2] "starts with a conclusion"

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For Jones, the real problem with the official line on 9/11 is that it relies on wrong-headed science that starts with a conclusion and seeks out evidence that supports that theory to the exclusion of all others in order to cover up what really happened on September 11th. FEMA, the 9/11 Commission, and even the National Institute of Standards and Technology had all started with the supposition that what caused the WTC collapses was the impact of the jets and their exploding fuel and ignored any and all evidence to the contrary even though their findings were “highly unlikely.”

The Deseret Morning News article reports Jones’ major points of concern:

These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

[3] Many people have come forward with info regarding prior knowledge, warnings and intelligence.

[4] Cronies sacrifice their own often, it's nothing new.

[5] Govt is too broad. Criminal cabal is more accurate. Power and resources? They tried in 93 and RG still put his bunker in WTC7. Isn't that plenty of time, especially when you have insiders and connections? A handful of OKC guys were involved with 9/11.

[6] In regards to media: in an effort to defog the issue of media cover up consider the following MUST hear podcast about drug running, Gary Webb, The Dark Alliance, Freeway Rick, transport networks, black-ops, offsetting costs, stealing the peoples tax money, assassinations and more. Then tell me the media has no part in cover ups. Look in any dictionary under the word yellow journalism and you will find a fellow by the name of Hearst who happens to own PopMech. Far too much to talk about for one person, so I'll let others fill in your lapses.

All I have to say is continue on your quest for the truth (...as authority not authority as truth) because "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

http://WKJO.com - See this film and send Ty and Ryan your thoughts or post them here

garet007 - January 9, 2008 03:42 AM (GMT)

As with all conspiracy theories, you're spread waayy too thin with this one, and have to make a lot of illogical inclusions so the story fits.

The fact that this is called a "truth movement" is laughable.

LS2582 - January 13, 2008 05:48 PM (GMT)

What is your point posting here?? if you don't believe in it, leave.

simple as that.

And if you feel that loose change is false, let's hear your side of the story. Can you prove anything in the film is false??? no.

look-up - January 14, 2008 06:47 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (LS2582 @ Jan 13 2008, 05:48 PM)

LS, maybe you chould shed some light on what in Loose Change made you feel something was wrong about the official story?

That might help other newcomers understand that while Loose Change is not perfect, and does assume many things, it clearly outlines the lies we were told about 9/11...

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