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Title: Your Opinion On The The Truth About The Hijackers


ExoGenics - January 4, 2007 08:42 PM (GMT)
I am just curious because 9/11 press for truth makes some good claims that government actually funded the hijackers. and loose change says there might not have even been hijackers. opinions

illeagalhunter - January 17, 2007 11:59 PM (GMT)
this forum is all about opinions & they are like assholes we all have one

sample - January 18, 2007 07:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (illeagalhunter @ Jan 17 2007, 11:59 PM)
this forum is all about opinions & they are like assholes we all have one

perhaps, the hijackers were told to take part in some sort of anti-terro exercise (remember same type of exercises on NORAD), same as the London bombers; something went wrong on flight 93 wich suposedly was planned to hit WTC 7, and then the building was demolished

this is what i think happened on board the planes

IronSnot - January 20, 2007 07:17 AM (GMT)
I think it's a combination of the last two, but I've clicked the 'paid by government' because that's the best one to click. Nevertheless I think there were more fakes than mercenaries.

look-up - January 23, 2007 02:46 PM (GMT)
atta was most likely a paid agent of some kind, but a lot of the others might have been unwilling participants in the events... they probably thought they were just doing a drill. Atta could be alive for all we know.

buckfush00 - January 25, 2007 05:10 PM (GMT)
If they were paid by the gov't then they had to be real right? And if you die in a plane crash, what the hell do you do with all the money you're given? I say fake, 100%.

ExoGenics - January 29, 2007 05:36 AM (GMT)
well maybe that would explain all the partying they did before 9/11.

a chance to kill americans

a week of luxury

look-up - January 29, 2007 09:50 PM (GMT)
most of them probably thought they were acting in a drill, while perhaps Atta knew what was really going on... but if he did then he is probably still alive, while the others would be long gone.

Sypher - February 21, 2007 08:57 PM (GMT)
The reason there is now video of any of the hijackers boarding is because the hijackers, primarily on Flight 11 and Flight 175, were Israeli.

Mohammed Atta was NOT the lead hijacker on one of the flights that struck the Twin Towers. Even Atta's father said that Mossad has either captured him or killed him by now. Mossad had a double that was using Atta's stolen identity. Mossad killed the real Mohammed Atta.

Atta's Father says Mossad is responsible

Sinewy - February 21, 2007 10:01 PM (GMT)
They were all from the Wahabi ideology and mostly from the Gulf states, and Atta from Egypt. They received training in U.S. military naval bases similarily to those that received CIA training and arms during the Afghan-Soviet war. So these guys were the leftovers or the "new" generation. They were recruited by the GID intelligence services of the Saudia with the CIA/ISI help, and again this was similarily seen when other `Arabs were recruited during the Afghan-Soviet war.

Some of them could have been double agents, most of them sincere simpletons who were warped into the "Wahabi" Al Qa`eda ideology, but more importantly, they were patsies exploited by all intelligences that took part in 9/11.

Lo and behold, their supporters, al Qa`eda, are quite delusional into accepting sole responsibility on such a massive operation such as that of 9/11. Either they are using al Harb al Khida (War is deceit), or mainly the U.S. government and intelligences are allowing them to take credit for the constant smear campaign that is going on. Both are occurring simultaneously.

Beached - February 21, 2007 10:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sypher @ Feb 21 2007, 08:57 PM)
The reason there is now video of any of the hijackers boarding is because the hijackers, primarily on Flight 11 and Flight 175, were Israeli.

Mohammed Atta was NOT the lead hijacker on one of the flights that struck the Twin Towers. Even Atta's father said that Mossad has either captured him or killed him by now. Mossad had a double that was using Atta's stolen identity. Mossad killed the real Mohammed Atta.

Atta's Father says Mossad is responsible

I agree 100%

A-Train - February 22, 2007 05:15 AM (GMT)
The hijackers were real, but they were not Arabs. The phone callers described the hijackers as having "Middle Eastern" appearance, which they did. They were Isreali agents selected because they had dark skin and would pass as Arabs. In this way, Arabs were framed and the enraged American people were fooled into going to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Betty Ong listed four seat numbers belonging to the hijackers. Two of them, 2A and 2B, were assigned to Wail and Waleed Alshehri-- who both turned up alive and well in the Middle East after 9/11. So the "Arabs" in those seats were really someone else with Arab appearance. She also listed seats 9B and 9A. In seat 9A was Edmund Glazer. In seat 9A was Daniel Lewin, a captain in the elite Israeli commando unit Sayerat Metkal.

Wibble - February 22, 2007 12:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (A-Train @ Feb 22 2007, 05:15 AM)
Betty Ong listed four seat numbers belonging to the hijackers. Two of them, 2A and 2B, were assigned to Wail and Waleed Alshehri-- who both turned up alive and well in the Middle East after 9/11. So the "Arabs" in those seats were really someone else with Arab appearance.

Wow, people with the same names that is so rare.


Hang on, hasn't the US had 2 Presidents called Bush? Didn't the UK have 2 Prime Ministers called Pitt? But thankfully, there is only one David Beckham.

tower - February 22, 2007 01:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wibble @ Feb 22 2007, 12:08 PM)
QUOTE (A-Train @ Feb 22 2007, 05:15 AM)
Betty Ong listed four seat numbers belonging to the hijackers.  Two of them, 2A and 2B, were assigned to Wail and Waleed Alshehri-- who both turned up alive and well in the Middle East after 9/11.  So the "Arabs" in those seats were really someone else with Arab appearance.

Wow, people with the same names that is so rare.


Hang on, hasn't the US had 2 Presidents called Bush? Didn't the UK have 2 Prime Ministers called Pitt? But thankfully, there is only one David Beckham.

Yeah, and seven of those terrorists were named just like some other people...

A-Train - February 22, 2007 01:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wibble @ Feb 22 2007, 12:08 PM)
Wow, people with the same names that is so rare. 


Hang on, hasn't the US had 2 Presidents called Bush?  Didn't the UK have 2 Prime Ministers called Pitt?  But thankfully, there is only one David Beckham.

When the FBI identified the alleged hijackers, they provided not only names, but photos and some personal information as well, all of which matched up with the "still-alive hijackers" reportedly found in the Middle East. These were not just names, they were identities-- that had been stolen and used by the real hijackers.

Did the two presidents named Bush have the same first name, and the exact same appearance?

Cassandra - February 22, 2007 05:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (A-Train @ Feb 22 2007, 01:44 PM)
QUOTE (Wibble @ Feb 22 2007, 12:08 PM)
Wow, people with the same names that is so rare. 


Hang on, hasn't the US had 2 Presidents called Bush?  Didn't the UK have 2 Prime Ministers called Pitt?  But thankfully, there is only one David Beckham.

When the FBI identified the alleged hijackers, they provided not only names, but photos and some personal information as well, all of which matched up with the "still-alive hijackers" reportedly found in the Middle East. These were not just names, they were identities-- that had been stolen and used by the real hijackers.

Not true.

The FBI released the names on 14/sep/2001: see here.

The FBI released the pictures on 27/sep/2001: see here.

The reports about the "living hijackers" emerged after the names were released and before the pictures were released.

After the pictures were released, no one heard anything anymore of these "living hijackers", no one ever saw them.

Why is that so?
Why has no one in the Truth Movement managed to get into contact with these "living hijackers"?

The answer is simply that they don't exist: the 19 hijackers, identified by the FBI, died on 11/sep/2001, in the four planes they hijacked.

RandyRhoads - February 22, 2007 05:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cassandra @ Feb 22 2007, 05:45 PM)
QUOTE (A-Train @ Feb 22 2007, 01:44 PM)
QUOTE (Wibble @ Feb 22 2007, 12:08 PM)
Wow, people with the same names that is so rare. 


Hang on, hasn't the US had 2 Presidents called Bush?  Didn't the UK have 2 Prime Ministers called Pitt?  But thankfully, there is only one David Beckham.

When the FBI identified the alleged hijackers, they provided not only names, but photos and some personal information as well, all of which matched up with the "still-alive hijackers" reportedly found in the Middle East. These were not just names, they were identities-- that had been stolen and used by the real hijackers.

Not true.

The FBI released the names on 14/sep/2001: see here.

The FBI released the pictures on 27/sep/2001: see here.

The reports about the "living hijackers" emerged after the names were released and before the pictures were released.

After the pictures were released, no one heard anything anymore of these "living hijackers", no one ever saw them.

Why is that so?
Why has no one in the Truth Movement managed to get into contact with these "living hijackers"?

The answer is simply that they don't exist: the 19 hijackers, identified by the FBI, died on 11/sep/2001, in the four planes they hijacked.

I agree with you 100%

A-Train - February 22, 2007 10:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cassandra @ Feb 22 2007, 05:45 PM)
The reports about the "living hijackers" emerged after the names were released and before the pictures were released.

After the pictures were released, no one heard anything anymore of these "living hijackers", no one ever saw them.

Why is that so?
Why has no one in the Truth Movement managed to get into contact with these "living hijackers"?

The answer is simply that they don't exist: the 19 hijackers, identified by the FBI, died on 11/sep/2001, in the four planes they hijacked.

You have the same childlike faith in the American media so common among defenders of the official story.

The reason you do not "hear anything" about the still living hijackers is the same reason you never "hear anything" about the collapse of WTC7-- at least not on the mainstream media. The reason is that the mainstream media is just as up to their eyeballs in the 9/11 lie as is the government and the military, so they simply don't talk about it. However, because the WTC collapse happened right here, and we have film of it, we can still learn about these events in the alternative media and the internet. The still alive hijackers, on the other hand, live in foreign countries. It would require a journalist with deep pockets, and quite a bit of courage, to travel over there and dig them up.

We have no idea what kind of pressure these individuals may have been put under. They are ordinary people, and they do not enjoy the kind of liberties as do those of us living in the good old USA. Saudi Arabia is a puppet state completely dependent on the US for its government's existence. The Mossad can probably do whatever it wants there. The still alive hijackers may have been politely told to keep quiet and out of sight if they want to remain still alive.

Anyway, it is not the responsibility of anyone in the "Truth Movement" to prove anything about these men. It is defenders of the official story who claim these men were hijackers. It is their burden to prove that these men were not only on the planes, but did the hijackings as well. In an age when identity theft is commonplace, simply throwing out a name, birthdate and photo is not enough.

There is one piece of evidence that would conclusively show just who exactly was on those planes. That is the surveillance video of the boarding gate. What has happened to this footage? Doesn't it make you suspicious that surveillance video from four boarding gates at three airports mysteriously disappears, or, even more mysteriously, was never made in the first place?

I will tell you why this footage is gone. It is because it shows who really got on those planes, and they were not who the government says they were.



Nephilem - September 29, 2007 09:36 PM (GMT)
The Hijackers were real and there is no conspiracy. Planes did fly into the world trade center. The question is what type of planes they could not have been military planes for several reasons, we don’t have any unmanned planes that big and Air force personal are not going to fly their plane into a building. Also if the passenger planes did not fly into the building you would have to answer the question were did they go, and what motivation would the airliners have for being part of the conspiracy? So the attack did not come from the government but from radical Islamic extremists.

Elder4Truth - November 8, 2007 01:47 AM (GMT)
As far as I know, there is no record of any of the supposed hijackers boarding the supposed planes.

There are no passenger manifests that list their names.

There is no video footage of any of the supposed hijackers going through security or boarding the planes.

There is no DNA evidence of any supposed hijacker DNA at any of the supposed crash scenes. If there is, there is no explanation of how the "authorities" obtained pre-death DNA from any of the supposed hijackers.

The whole story is a house of cards, a fabrication. Don't point to a passport floating to the ground where not one iota of other passenger evidence was recovered from the WTC supposed impacts.


rydog - November 15, 2007 05:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (sample @ Jan 18 2007, 07:37 AM)
QUOTE (illeagalhunter @ Jan 17 2007, 11:59 PM)
this forum is all about opinions & they are like assholes we all have one

perhaps, the hijackers were told to take part in some sort of anti-terro exercise (remember same type of exercises on NORAD), same as the London bombers; something went wrong on flight 93 wich suposedly was planned to hit WTC 7, and then the building was demolished

this is what i think happened on board the planes

It is highly unlikely that Flight 93 was intended for WTC7. For Flight 93 to have hit WTC7,. it would have had to fly below the rooftops of other taller surrounding buildings,. and then your question would be,. why not hit the Empire State Building? When the Empire State Building is many times larger and a much more famous landmark.

The logic of the terrorist choosing WTC7 over the Empire State Building would have been ridiculous.

I agree, that WTC7 being demolished in full view of everyone was their biggest mistake, and it is more likely that the building was originally intended to be brought down during the demolition of the second tower.

Back on topic, for my vote, some of the Hijackers were real, yes, but I do not believe they were in control of the flights, and I am not convinced that they ever boarded the planes. They were patsies, simple tools for the cover-up that would happen before and after the attacks.

thehighwaymanq - November 24, 2007 11:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rydog @ Nov 15 2007, 01:54 AM)
QUOTE (sample @ Jan 18 2007, 07:37 AM)
QUOTE (illeagalhunter @ Jan 17 2007, 11:59 PM)
this forum is all about opinions & they are like assholes we all have one

perhaps, the hijackers were told to take part in some sort of anti-terro exercise (remember same type of exercises on NORAD), same as the London bombers; something went wrong on flight 93 wich suposedly was planned to hit WTC 7, and then the building was demolished

this is what i think happened on board the planes

It is highly unlikely that Flight 93 was intended for WTC7. For Flight 93 to have hit WTC7,. it would have had to fly below the rooftops of other taller surrounding buildings,. and then your question would be,. why not hit the Empire State Building? When the Empire State Building is many times larger and a much more famous landmark.

The logic of the terrorist choosing WTC7 over the Empire State Building would have been ridiculous.


If 93 crashed into WTC7, 75% of the nation would be saying, "What the hell is WTC7?"

jfk - November 25, 2007 12:06 AM (GMT)
I chose paid... The reason for this is even if they were hijackers according to the official story, OUR government financed the Pakistani ISI which in turn financed Al-CIA-Duh.

fedzcametogetme - January 1, 2008 10:34 PM (GMT)
i didnt vote in the poll cuz i dont think any of the options are specific enough, but since this poll is opinion based, i wouldnt mind adding my suspicions:

no i dont think the 19 men alleged by the official story were ever onboard any of the planes. they became 911 patsies later, but thats not what they were really doing here in the united states. to me moussavi is the only real intended patsy, in other words he was the one going around making lots of "noise" before the hijackings, so that after the event he would be the one sticking out like a sore thumb. the gov. needed some living person to connect all the people and events together in a courtroom, and that's what moussavi was for.

as far as atta and company, my best guess is that they were here to be drugrunners. they were in the drug smuggling haven of the USA, miami florida. thats why they were trying to get pilot licenses and why atta had looked into buying a cropduster, so they could eventually (imo) do drug-runs in south florida. they were also cia assets, thats why each time they (some of them) were held on some suspicion or other by lesser authorities (than the cia), they were somehow miraculously freed.

so what became of them? it seems to me that it would be risky to let them live, for they might eventually pop up and contradict the official story. so somehow they ended up dead, but not onboard any of the four allegedly hijacked flights.

Gideon524 - January 1, 2008 11:48 PM (GMT)
I may be stepping out on a limb, but what if the only two roles of the hijackers were:

A. to leave a trail of evidence behind linking them to Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden

and

B. to kill the pilots so that the plane could then be hijacked by remote control from the ground?

Just a thought.




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