Here is my latest blog entry, posted at my two blogs:
http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2007/12/...s-disprove.html
and http://www.911blogger.com/node/13165

Ground Level Fireballs Disprove Official WTC Collapse Theories

As the two entries from the Complete 9/11 Timeline copied below show, several witnesses have recalled seeing large fireballs coming from the bases of each of the Twin Towers when they collapsed on September 11, 2001. From their descriptions, it seems the fireballs erupted at the time the collapses began, or just before.

These accounts are important evidence, strongly refuting official explanations of why the World Trade Center fell. In its final report on the collapses of the Twin Towers, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) claimed the collapses "initiated at the fire and impact floors," and "progressed from the initiating floors downward." This would mean the collapse began, in the case of the South Tower, around the 78th to 84th floors, and for the North Tower, around the 93rd to 98th floors.

Why would a collapse that started way up towards the top of each building coincide with, or be preceded by, a massive fireball erupting from the bottom? The official theory--that structural damage and fire caused the collapses--cannot explain this. Nor can it explain why, according to several witnesses, the ground started shaking just before the collapse of the South Tower, and again just before the collapse of the North Tower.

The ground level fireballs make sense, however, when we consider what Mark Loizeaux--the president of Controlled Demolition Inc.--has said: "If I were to bring the towers down, I would put explosives in the basement to get the weight of the building to help collapse the structure."

Shortly Before 9:59 a.m. September 11, 2001: Some Witnesses See Ground-Level Explosion Just Before WTC 2 Collapses
Some witnesses reportedly see a massive fireball at ground level, coming from the South Tower just before it starts to collapse. According to a report by the Mineta Transportation Institute (a research institute founded by Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta), "People inside the South Tower felt the floor vibrate as if a small earthquake were occurring.… The vibration lasted for about 30 seconds. The doors were knocked out, and a huge ball of flame created by the exploding diesel fuel from the building's own supply tank shot from the elevator shaft and out the doors of the South Tower, consuming everything in its path. Minutes later, at 9:59 a.m., the tower collapsed." [Jenkins and Edwards-Winslow, 9/2003, pp. 16] Around the same time, Port Authority Police Officer Will Jimeno is in a corridor leading toward the North Tower. "Suddenly the hallway began to shudder," and he sees "the giant fireball explode in the street," when the South Tower begins to collapse. [Bowhunter, 1/2003] Ronald DiFrancesco is the last person to make it out of the South Tower before it collapses. As he is heading toward the exit that leads onto Church Street, he hears a loud roar as the collapse begins. According to the Ottawa Citizen, "Mr. DiFrancesco turned to his right in the direction of Liberty Street, to see a massive fireball—compressed as the South Tower fell—roiling toward [him]." He bolts for the exit, before being knocked unconscious and blown many yards across the street. [USA Today, 12/18/2001; Ottawa Citizen, 6/4/2005; Ottawa Citizen, 6/5/2005; PBS NOVA, 9/5/2006] A number of other witnesses report feeling the ground shaking just seconds before the South Tower collapses (see Shortly Before 9:59 a.m. September 11, 2001).
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10:28 a.m. September 11, 2001: Reporter Sees Ground-Level Explosion When North Tower Collapses
CBS News correspondent Carol Marin witnesses what she describes as a "gigantic fireball" coming from the base of the North Tower as it starts to collapse. [USA Today, 9/11/2001; Chicago Sun-Times, 9/12/2001; Daily Herald (Arlington Heights), 9/11/2002] Marin headed to the scene of the attacks and arrived on West Street after the South Tower collapsed. She then sees the second tower come down, later describing, "I was only a block or two away from the North Tower when the street trembled under my feet, a fireball of pooled jet fuel exploded out of the building's base, and it too, unbelievably, started to collapse right in front of me." [Chicago Sun-Times, 9/10/2006] (However, the explosion could not be due to "pooled jet fuel," as, according to the National Institute of Standards and Technology, "The jet fuel" from the planes "was mostly consumed within the first few minutes after impact." [National Institute of Standards and Technology, 6/18/2004; New York Times, 4/5/2005]) In one telling, Marin describes, "a roar seemed to come out of the earth," causing the fireball. [Gilbert et al., 2002] In another, she says, "there was a roar, an explosion, and we could see coming toward us a ball of flame, stories high." She runs, and a firefighter throws her against a building to protect her. She recalls, "The flame somehow stopped short of us." [CBS News, 2002, pp. 54] Other witnesses also describe the ground shaking before the North Tower collapse (see Shortly Before 10:28 a.m. September 11, 2001). And some witnesses similarly report seeing a fireball at ground level coming from the South Tower when it collapsed (see Shortly Before 9:59 a.m. September 11, 2001).
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The WTC was like a small city and within that small city was enough fuel to destroy a small city and the systems to deliver this fuel ran all around the complex.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think for a second that any of this was accidental. Quite the contrary, I believe these lines were deliberately sabotaged in order to help bring the buildings down. I think that the planners knew a lot about the design of the complex and the mechanical systems and used the assorted fuels, steam and gases used to run these systems to destroy the buildings.

Who needs nukes, when you've got enough energy and fuel load right on site to do the job for you?

Here's a link to some work I posted recently on the role natural gas may have played in the destruction of the WTC.

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/d...12&mesg_id=9512

That's not what your link or your quote says.

"No natural gas is used in the two towers."

Though, the towers did have generators on the B6 level, and these things called substations on B, 1, 7, 41, 75, and 108.

I don't think the towers had diesel fuel tanks. I suspect that's the reason the story changed to jet fuel. The problem is that this particular explosion occurred long after the building was hit, minutes before collapse. Apparently, there was also an explosion just as the South Tower was about to collapse.

Same thing with the North Tower.

The problem is that the North Tower lobby had marble knocked off its walls and elevators blown long before that.

Sorry, I should have said WTC Complex.

The post that I linked to was in regards to possible natural gas explosions, among other things, in WTC 4, 5 & 6 and the Millennium Hotel. Also I think they used it to help bring down WTC 7, which even though it is not mentioned in the report, did have a natural gas line that ran up to a kitchen at the top of the building.

In regards, to WTC 1 & 2 I think the weapon of choice was again a FAE of some sort, but instead of using pipelines like they could in other parts of the complex, I believe they used the elevator shafts, possibly by driving prerigged trucks that were, in a sense, thermobaric bombs.

However, I do not think that natural gas was the only explosive at play here, but that other explosives and sabotaging of other mechanical systems was also employed. For example, the entire complex had pressurized steam that did service the Twin Towers and the rest of the buildings. Remember the steam explosion in NYC last summer? The plume almost reached the top of the Chrysler Building. Imagine the damage you could do if you something like that happened inside of a building?

Thermobaric Hydrogen device discussion Not supportive of a fireball but an interesting theory of thermobarics.

just wanted to add one specification and 2 cents:

specification:
the towers (wtc 1 and 2) only had ONE elevator shaft that ran the length of the entire building. so its shaft (singular), not shafts (plural) that was available in each tower for the alleged jet fuel to have reached ground level (making the "jetfuel caused the ground-level explosions" assertion that much less likely to be a reality). besides if the jetfuel ignited/exploded at impact, how did it manage to have enough force left to reach down 80+ floors thru a single elevator shaft, and blow the lobby to high hell (ie knock off marble walls and shatter windows)?


2cents re: the ground level explosions themselves:
my guess is that they were intended as saving grace or mercy by the perps. i think they were meant to impede/obstacle the number of rescue workers and fire fighters who might attempt to go up into the building. these explosions partially or fully blocked some of the access to the building, so they at least slowed down some of the people trying to go IN. so maybe the perps were showing some heart in an attempt to allow less outside people into the buildings.

of course these same explosions would also possibly lock out certain people from leaving, so on that side of it, the perps werent exactly so sypmathetic. but i have suspected all along that even before the explosions of the collapses and at the impact zones, other explosions were going off in certain targeted areas/offices in an attempt at coporate sabotage and possibly in an effort to make sure certain equipment (hardrives/security/cameras/alarms/etc) ceased to function earlier than the eventual "collapses". furthermore i suspect the footsoldiers/mercs could have also been going thru some of the offices and stealing vital corporate or other proprietary information. they may have even had a list of people inside the building that were targets and had to (with 100 percent certainty) be neutralized. so i believe some of the perps were working as assassins/thieves/saboteurs inside the buildings up to right before the collapses.

im oversimplifying it a bit, because it is mostly conjecture and suspicion. so without any way to present evidence of it, i dont think it requires alot of detail. its just something i consider when looking at what happened...

I agree, the perps did a number of things to minimize the loss of life.

I've done some work collecting and mapping the pictures of the burning vehicles and there's definitely a pattern and a reason these vehicles were torched.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v411/DoY...p-w-cars-V2.jpg

Burning Cars NW Parking Lot

Burning Vehicles at Ground Zero

One reason would be to block access and keep people out in order to save lives. They were also very concerned with creating a barrier around WTC 7. That's why Rudy went to 75 Barclay Street, which was on the opposite side of the barrier.

yO>shoestring. why is it that every time I link up to something you have posted, my computer freezes up ? Found you on myspace, and the same thing happened again. <_<

No idea. No one else has reported this, so far. Freaky! I'm not on MySpace, so at least that can't be me.

I think it's love.

MM

Two TV news reports I found that confirms the fireball seen at street level during the South Tower's collapse...

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...post&p=14630367

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...post&p=14608284