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Title: Gravy's New Video...
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kissing blarney - December 22, 2007 10:10 PM (GMT)

Gideon524 - December 22, 2007 11:27 PM (GMT)
*YAWN*

Who's Gravy?

Isn't he that schmuck that said "Nobody ever lied about the air quality."

kissing blarney - December 23, 2007 12:50 AM (GMT)
Yeah, that's the schmuck alright. I thought some of the building demo's on it I hadn't seen before were kind of cool. Now that I've woken up from the nap induced by hanging out Pharaoh's Tavern last night, please feel free to delete it at your leisure.

I feel dirty.

Gideon524 - December 23, 2007 12:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gideon524 @ Dec 22 2007, 06:27 PM)
*YAWN*

Who's Gravy?

Isn't he that schmuck that said "Nobody ever lied about the air quality."

I was being sarcastic. Of course I know who that arrogant fool is. :D

IVXX - December 23, 2007 01:52 AM (GMT)
Les Robertson, the man who claims engineers planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel. :rolleyes:


thehighwaymanq - December 23, 2007 02:35 AM (GMT)
I'm goin watch it when I get the chance. Maybe later, has anybody else sat through the whole thing?

kissing blarney - December 23, 2007 02:44 AM (GMT)
Let's just say it's typical.

Terrorcell - December 23, 2007 03:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 23 2007, 01:52 AM)
Les Robertson, the man who claims engineers planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel. :rolleyes:

i thought planes just sort of glided...... :(

kissing blarney - December 23, 2007 04:35 AM (GMT)
I particularly liked the comments on the google link. Should've posted it instead.

Newtons Bit - December 23, 2007 05:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 22 2007, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 23 2007, 01:52 AM)
Les Robertson, the man who claims engineers planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel.  :rolleyes:

i thought planes just sort of glided...... :(

Could you point out a method that structural engineers could use to analyze differential thermal strain in a building from the 60's? Or what about post-yield strength of beams?

Thanks.

einsteen - December 23, 2007 04:46 PM (GMT)
The shaking camera movie is almost similar as this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_iBZEHEdE

And what about this one

http://youthfulindiscretions.com/vid/911/E...fter%20Plan.avi

But a few distinct Boom Boom Booms and then an implosion would not be a good choice. That would make even Gravy a questioner..


IVXX - December 23, 2007 06:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 22 2007, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 23 2007, 01:52 AM)
Les Robertson, the man who claims engineers planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel.  :rolleyes:

i thought planes just sort of glided...... :(

Either that or a really big sling shot.

Les Roberson saying they planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel is easily one of the most pathetic statements I ever heard.

jfk - December 23, 2007 06:28 PM (GMT)
RE : Gravy's new video, if you care.

I don't.

When he first appeared at the old forums, I did... but that interview with Dylan and crew totally turned me off. < sees nothing but loathing hatred for Dylan and crew in Gravy's face >

kissing blarney - December 23, 2007 06:48 PM (GMT)
Perhaps I should've phrased the title a bit differently. Gravy's new video...IF you give a pinch of monkey shit what he says. :)

einsteen - December 23, 2007 07:28 PM (GMT)
If I look at the (immediately overloaded) audio track of the video

user posted image

and crop a part in the beginning I get

user posted image

if we assume this is due to a row of independent cracks/booms then
we have to compare it with silence, let's mute some parts of it,
that gives

user posted image

How does that sound ? That sounds like

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EW0EKKFO (81k only)

IMHO there is no reason to call it a silent collapse,
I assume the genuine FOX5 video already proves
that. 40 seconds, what a horrorshow! but I'm no sound engineer

TDX - December 23, 2007 07:56 PM (GMT)

Lark - December 24, 2007 06:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 22 2007, 08:52 PM)
Les Robertson, the man who claims engineers planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel.  :rolleyes:

I could be mistaken, but it seems that last year any time someone here mentioned Robertson's name, it was to use his statements to support the theory that airliners could not cause the WTC towers to collapse.

Now that he has stated that he was mistaken, why is he not held up as part of the proof of an inside job? How do you decide who to believe here? Why is Robertson less believable now? Was he initially believed merely because his statements appeared to support your views? Or is there another reason? Thanks.

Lark

Xenomorph - December 24, 2007 06:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (einsteen @ Dec 23 2007, 02:28 PM)
IMHO there is no reason to call it a silent collapse,
I assume the genuine FOX5 video already proves
that. 40 seconds, what a horrorshow! but I'm no sound engineer

As much as I hate to create further problems, there's also evidence to support that the FOX5 footage audio has been altered or enhanced. Here is compilation of another partial copy of the same footage and another copy from CNN's 5th anniversary "Remembering 9/11" special: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CI3X9F4D It's an 18 megabyte wmv. I certainly won't be promoting the audio is authentic anymore, if anything the treble, bass or volume has been increased. I'm no sound engineer either though.

seeker135 - December 25, 2007 10:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 22 2007, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 23 2007, 01:52 AM)
Les Robertson, the man who claims engineers planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel.  :rolleyes:

i thought planes just sort of glided...... :(

They do. They have these fans, see.... and when they get shot out of the sky, or slam into different types of buildings,they assume any configuration you need! :blink:

seeker135 - December 25, 2007 10:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 23 2007, 01:02 PM)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Dec 22 2007, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Dec 23 2007, 01:52 AM)
Les Robertson, the man who claims engineers planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel.  :rolleyes:

i thought planes just sort of glided...... :(

Either that or a really big sling shot.

Les Roberson saying they planned/designed for an airline impact but never took into account the fuel is easily one of the most pathetic statements I ever heard.

Never pleasant to watch someone bend over and insert cranium into rectum. :ph43r:




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