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estrella - December 22, 2007 02:52 AM (GMT)
Hey all,
Just want to bring up that at the time of 911 Marvin Bush was on the board of directors of the security company that handled World Trade Center, Dulles airport, and United Airlines. Amazing isn't it.

2smart4bush - December 22, 2007 02:54 AM (GMT)
I thought we did a forced rendition on Marvin.. hah aha ha

Calling "All We Are Change" be on the look out for one Marvin Bush

PHARAOH1133 - December 22, 2007 02:56 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (estrella @ Dec 21 2007, 09:52 PM)
Hey all,
Just want to bring up that at the time of 911 Marvin Bush was on the board of directors of the security company that handled World Trade Center, Dulles airport, and United Airlines. Amazing isn't it.

Yes, I knew that.
What is the status of that company now?

Could there be new accounts, that have tall buildings?

kissing blarney - December 22, 2007 03:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (estrella @ Dec 21 2007, 09:52 PM)
Hey all,
Just want to bring up that at the time of 911 Marvin Bush was on the board of directors of the security company that handled World Trade Center, Dulles airport, and United Airlines. Amazing isn't it.

You need to look into it a little deeper.

seeker135 - December 22, 2007 03:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (kissing blarney @ Dec 21 2007, 10:00 PM)
QUOTE (estrella @ Dec 21 2007, 09:52 PM)
Hey all,
Just want to bring up that at the time of 911 Marvin Bush was on the board of directors of the security company that handled World Trade Center, Dulles airport, and United Airlines.  Amazing isn't it.

You need to look into it a little deeper.

estrella - December 22, 2007 03:51 AM (GMT)
Yeah the list of things to look into deeper is endless. There are so many connections and "coincidences" when you begin to look at 911 it's difficult to pick a place to start.

kissing blarney - December 22, 2007 04:38 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (estrella @ Dec 21 2007, 10:51 PM)
Yeah the list of things to look into deeper is endless. There are so many connections and "coincidences" when you begin to look at 911 it's difficult to pick a place to start.

You are 100% right about that.

DoYouEverWonder - December 22, 2007 02:07 PM (GMT)
It wasn't just Marvin Bush who had an inside job and a minor one at that. More important are Paul Bremer and Jerome Hauer


L. Paul Bremer was the Chief Executive Officer of Marsh Crisis Consulting Company, a crisis management firm owned by the financial services firm Marsh & McLennan.

Marsh USA owned the impact zone in WTC 1. They leased Floors 93- 100 in the North Tower. The impact zone was from 93-99. Gee how convenient.


Jerome Hauer seems to specialize in the art of holding down several different jobs at the same time. While he started to work for the NIH in September 2001, he remained a Managing Director at Kroll Associates - the official security and bodyguard company for all American presidents since World War II. Kroll Associates is also the security company for the Sears Tower. Hauer was also called the architect of Rudy's Bunker in WTC 7. He was Rudy's OEM Director from 1998 until ?.


Jerome Hauer (Human Health Institute) is the man who put John O'Neill at the WTC and identified his body and tipped the White House off to Cipro on 9/11/01.

Kroll was hired to revamp security for the WTC after the 1993 Bombing.

These are the real perps

miragememories - December 22, 2007 03:37 PM (GMT)
Always thought this story was very suspicous!.

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/10-16-03/...ion.cgi.16.html

MM

Headhunter - December 22, 2007 05:44 PM (GMT)
Interesting, how he moved not long prior to 9/11 to a Texas based Insurance company, who's major client was, you guessed it, the WTC!

seeker135 - December 23, 2007 03:48 AM (GMT)
Presidential lineage and fraternal cooperation. (Article)

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?arti...281474977210311

kissing blarney - December 23, 2007 04:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (seeker135 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:48 PM)
Presidential lineage and fraternal cooperation. (Article)

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?arti...281474977210311

Thanks. That was a good link. It linked to some other good stuff as well. I didn't recall the Project for the Old American Century being that good a site.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/

Looks like the reading list just got longer.

Hierosis - December 25, 2007 04:50 AM (GMT)
It should be noted that Marvin Bush left the board of the parent compant in September 2000. For me that pretty much discredits any role he may have played.

Headhunter - December 26, 2007 03:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hierosis @ Dec 24 2007, 11:50 PM)
It should be noted that Marvin Bush left the board of the parent compant in September 2000. For me that pretty much discredits any role he may have played.

Except for the fact that he left to join an Insurance Co. who's main client was the WTC, and let's not forget the ownership of Securacom/Stratesec, Kuwait-America Corp, headed by Wirt Walker III (the W in "Dubya").

RKOwens4 - December 28, 2007 05:59 AM (GMT)
This may have been mentioned, but in the first few responses I didn't see anyone mention it.

Marvin Bush was never in control of WTC security. Ever. This is a lie so far off from fact that even Loose Change was sensible enough to drop it after the first edition, even though it still gets brought up every now and then on forums.

You'll hear people such as Alex Jones claim that Marvin Bush ran security for the complex until his contract ended on the morning of 9/11. In fact, Marvin Bush worked for a company called Securacom which was hired by the Port Authority (which ran security for the WTC throughout its entire history) to help update their electronic security system after the 1993 attack (which is understandable). Securacom's role was to install security cameras and turnstiles, run fiber optic cables, update their computer control room, and so on. They were never in charge of security. They're an electronic security company. They don't provide security. This also took place from 1996 until 1998. Marvin Bush also left Securacom in June 2000, before his brother even became president. So in summary, Marvin Bush's company installed security cameras and whatnot, but didn't run security. And their contract ended in 1998, not on the morning of 9/11. And Marvin Bush wasn't even working for Securacom on 9/11.

DoYouEverWonder - December 28, 2007 02:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hierosis @ Dec 24 2007, 11:50 PM)
It should be noted that Marvin Bush left the board of the parent compant in September 2000. For me that pretty much discredits any role he may have played.

I disagree.

I think that it is an indicator that he knew what was coming and got out early so that there wouldn't be a direct connection to the Bush Family.

However, he was on the inside long enough to place his own people in key positions and to have access to sensitive data about the structures and mechanical systems in the complex.

He did his job and moved on to safer pastures.

miragememories - December 28, 2007 04:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hierosis @ Dec 24 2007, 11:50 PM)
It should be noted that Marvin Bush left the board of the parent compant in September 2000.  For me that pretty much discredits any role he may have played.


QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Dec 28 2007, 10:39 AM)

I disagree.

I think that it is an indicator that he knew what was coming and got out early so that there wouldn't be a direct connection to the Bush Family.

However, he was on the inside long enough to place his own people in key positions and to have access to sensitive data about the structures and mechanical systems in the complex.

He did his job and moved on to safer pastures.

There's much more to the story if there were any 'real' investigative journalists still living.

Everywhere you look there seems to be another 9/11 coincidence lying beneath another BUSH.

MM

RKOwens4 - December 28, 2007 05:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (miragememories @ Dec 28 2007, 11:47 AM)
QUOTE (Hierosis @ Dec 24 2007, 11:50 PM)
It should be noted that Marvin Bush left the board of the parent compant in September 2000.  For me that pretty much discredits any role he may have played.


QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Dec 28 2007, 10:39 AM)

I disagree.

I think that it is an indicator that he knew what was coming and got out early so that there wouldn't be a direct connection to the Bush Family.

However, he was on the inside long enough to place his own people in key positions and to have access to sensitive data about the structures and mechanical systems in the complex.

He did his job and moved on to safer pastures.

There's much more to the story if there were any 'real' investigative journalists still living.

Everywhere you look there seems to be another 9/11 coincidence lying beneath another BUSH.

MM

Much more to the story? Didn't you see my response I posted last night? Marvin Bush was never in charge of security. There's nothing more to this story, because there was never anything to it to begin with.

You say that Marvin Bush may have left the company in September 2000 (actually it was June) because he knew what was coming. You have to remember that in June 2000, Bush wasn't even president yet, but still running. Surely if Bush did plan the 9/11 attacks, he would have started doing so after he was president... at which time his brother was long gone from Securacom. You could argue that Dick Cheney was the one who actually planned 9/11, and may have started years before Bush became president, but how would Cheney know to contact George Bush's brother? At the time, Al Gore was just as likely to have become president. Not only that, but if Marvin Bush did anything nefarious at the World Trade Center, it would have had to have been when his company was still doing work there, which ended in 1998. Of course, even this would have been impossible, since the Port Authority always ran security at the WTC. Surely you don't think the Port Authority, which lost 83 of its own members on 9/11, was "in on it", do you?

By the way, MM, you know that the picture by your name shows a flashlight and not molten metal (as some claim), right? What's interesting about a flashlight?

DoYouEverWonder - December 28, 2007 06:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (RKOwens4 @ Dec 28 2007, 12:30 PM)
QUOTE (miragememories @ Dec 28 2007, 11:47 AM)
QUOTE (Hierosis @ Dec 24 2007, 11:50 PM)
It should be noted that Marvin Bush left the board of the parent compant in September 2000.  For me that pretty much discredits any role he may have played.


QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Dec 28 2007, 10:39 AM)

I disagree.

I think that it is an indicator that he knew what was coming and got out early so that there wouldn't be a direct connection to the Bush Family.

However, he was on the inside long enough to place his own people in key positions and to have access to sensitive data about the structures and mechanical systems in the complex.

He did his job and moved on to safer pastures.

There's much more to the story if there were any 'real' investigative journalists still living.

Everywhere you look there seems to be another 9/11 coincidence lying beneath another BUSH.

MM

Much more to the story? Didn't you see my response I posted last night? Marvin Bush was never in charge of security. There's nothing more to this story, because there was never anything to it to begin with.

You say that Marvin Bush may have left the company in September 2000 (actually it was June) because he knew what was coming. You have to remember that in June 2000, Bush wasn't even president yet, but still running. Surely if Bush did plan the 9/11 attacks, he would have started doing so after he was president... at which time his brother was long gone from Securacom. You could argue that Dick Cheney was the one who actually planned 9/11, and may have started years before Bush became president, but how would Cheney know to contact George Bush's brother? At the time, Al Gore was just as likely to have become president. Not only that, but if Marvin Bush did anything nefarious at the World Trade Center, it would have had to have been when his company was still doing work there, which ended in 1998. Of course, even this would have been impossible, since the Port Authority always ran security at the WTC. Surely you don't think the Port Authority, which lost 83 of its own members on 9/11, was "in on it", do you?

By the way, MM, you know that the picture by your name shows a flashlight and not molten metal (as some claim), right? What's interesting about a flashlight?

Only problem with you logic is that the planning for 9/11 was in the works for at least a decade if not more.

Most of the preparations and planning was done during the 90's. (No wonder Hillary thinks they'll make her president). The 1993 Bombing was the test run. They were able to obtain accurate calculations about how much damage a certain amount of explosives would do to the sublevels. That event also gave them the excuse to do massive renovations to the entire complex and for Rudy to install his OEM Bunker in WTC 7.

Team Bush knew their boy was going to win in 2000 no matter what. When he didn't get the popular vote, they went into action and the Gore Campaign didn't know what hit them. With stooges like Joe Lieberman and Donna Brasile planted inside the Gore Campaign, all the hearings and SC was just bread and circuses for the masses.

Too much depended on 9/11 for Team Bush to let anything stand in their way.

miragememories - December 28, 2007 07:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hierosis @ Dec 24 2007, 11:50 PM)

By the way, MM, you know that the picture by your name shows a flashlight and not molten metal (as some claim), right?  What's interesting about a flashlight?

Every picture tells a story.

MM

bizcocho - January 2, 2008 06:44 PM (GMT)
Margie Burns article on Securacom/Stratesec, Marvin and cousin Walker.

www.populist.com/03.02.burns.html


Contains more damning info than you can shake a stick at.




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