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Title: Nist - Wtc Update!
Description: Supplement (December 14, 2007)


JointPlays - December 14, 2007 05:34 PM (GMT)
NIST released some answers to "Frequently Asked Questions" today.

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

I heard yesterday at a truth lecture, that the final report on WTC 7 are cancelled entirely.

Can anyone confirm this??

miragememories - December 14, 2007 05:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JointPlays @ Dec 14 2007, 01:34 PM)
NIST released some answers to "Frequently Asked Questions" today.

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

I heard yesterday at a truth lecture, that the final report on WTC 7 are cancelled entirely.

Can anyone confirm this??

Only news I've heard regarding NIST's WTC Report was from Kent1 at JREF who claims it has been delayed again until sometime in 2008.

If NIST has come to the unavoidable conclusion that it was indeed a controlled demolition, then it would not surprise me in the least that they canceled the Report.

The current Bush administration would do absolutely everything in it's power to suppress that kind of news!

MM

IVXX - December 14, 2007 06:18 PM (GMT)
Email NIST and see what they say.

Moved to WTC section.

kissing blarney - December 14, 2007 07:23 PM (GMT)
IMO not releasing or refusing to release a report would be the biggest shot in the arm the movement could possibly have happen. Even the MSM would be unable to avoid or cover-up the questions that would demand be answered from the madding crowd.

I would think the skeptics/debunkers would be up in arms as well. They're going to have their hands full either way.

Headhunter - December 14, 2007 08:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JointPlays @ Dec 14 2007, 12:34 PM)
NIST released some answers to "Frequently Asked Questions" today.

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

I heard yesterday at a truth lecture, that the final report on WTC 7 are cancelled entirely.

Can anyone confirm this??

Now THAT would make for some very good news eh? Woah!

look-up - December 14, 2007 09:29 PM (GMT)
it sure would! Even if they didn't cancel it, did the delay (cuz face it, it ain't gonna be released by the end of 07 like they said) might have something to do with the fact that Final Cut came out a couple months late?

Sure it's just a coincidence. But what a lovely one at that!

A kid with a laptop, that some call a "dropout" (but never actually attended college) has possibly toppled the towers of lies coming from some specific government agencies!

Headhunter, this is the reason why I believe a miracle could happen with the Ron Paul campaign. The impossible is becoming possible. IT'S THAT KIND OF TIME IN HISTORY.

DoYouEverWonder - December 15, 2007 04:30 PM (GMT)
More faith based crap from NIST. Oh goody.


There's enough holes in this thing, you could drive a hundred 767's through it.


NK-44 - December 18, 2007 04:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
NIST concluded from its aircraft impact analyses (NIST NCSTAR 1-2) that the fireproofing was dislodged as a result of the aircraft debris and dispersed fuel traveling, initially, over 500 miles per hour (700 ft/s) (NIST NCSTAR 1-6D). Since the test assemblies for all four Standard Fire Tests were protected with sprayed fire-resistant material (SFRM), conclusions could not be drawn for the response of the WTC Towers to the fires on September 11, 2001, because the aircraft impact resulted in there having been unprotected steel in the fire-affected region. (NIST FAQ UPDATE)


So what they're saying is: don't waste your time with reading through our fire test reports, as they have nothing to do with what happened on 9/11.

Remember, NIST states that there were three factors necessary to initiate 'unevitable' collapse:

1.plane impact damage
2.removed fire protection
3. fires

From analyses of the impact they concluded that fireproofing was dislogded, and from that they concluded that they couldn't draw conclusion from the fire tests (which of course raises the question why they made fire tests at all).

So the third factor necessary to bring the buildings down is based on no evidence but a conclusion which is merely speculation, as there is no evidence to support the claim that steel 'having been unprotected in the fire-affected region' (which of course raises the question why they didn't make tests with unprotected steel).

The shotgun-tests NIST made to prove that the fireproofing was removed in the fire-affected regions had nothing to do with the real conditions on 9/11, but had to be aligned with the need to draw from that the conclusion that the fire tests made could be dismissed - as they* knew that any real condition fire test would not produce the results needed. (For more on NIST's shotgun-test read this)

So what we have is that two of the three factors were deduced from the first factor, the plane impact. So after years of investigating and spending 20 million bucks NIST found the ultimate explanation why the towers suffered a global, inevitable, collapse:
because planes hit them! Priceless.

The question is: Who writes such stuff?

It's interesting to note that these FAQ-letters are the most detailed answers to critiques and 'conspiracy theories', yet they are published without anyone signing them. Who wrote them? Who is responsible? What is there to hide?
How many of all those who have participated in the investigation were asked of their opinion before publishing the FAQ letters?
How many of them have even read the whole NIST report? I guess not many. How many of the people working for UL, who conducted the fire tests for NIST, were or are aware that their tests had no value?
How many of the people participating in the investigation are aware that the reasons NIST states to have been responsible for global collapse were deduced from a few shots with a gun? Does NIST actually stands for Notorious Incompetence Simulating Traitors?


* 'they' doesn't mean all people participating in the investigation. Quite the opposite, only a very few produced the 'big picture'. I guess the people making the fire tests would be surprised to hear that their efforts had no value for the investigation.

Justicia - December 24, 2007 02:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (miragememories @ Dec 14 2007, 12:48 PM)
If NIST has come to the unavoidable conclusion that it was indeed a controlled demolition, then it would not surprise me in the least that they canceled the Report.


If by "unavoidable", you mean "delusional", then you might have a point. In the real world, however, you'll find that NIST most certainly will not "cancel" their report.

Avenger - December 24, 2007 03:16 AM (GMT)
No, they'll just keep delaying it over and over again.

miragememories - December 24, 2007 01:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (miragememories @ Dec 14 2007, 12:48 PM)
If NIST has come to the unavoidable conclusion that it was indeed a controlled demolition, then it would not surprise me in the least that they canceled the Report.



QUOTE (Justicia @ Dec 23 2007, 10:28 PM)

If by "unavoidable", you mean "delusional", then you might have a point.  In the real world, however, you'll find that NIST most certainly will not "cancel" their report.


Anyone can take a cheap shot, chuckle and walk away Justicia.

Why don't explain how delusional best describes a belief in the collapse of WTC7 being a controlled demolition?

MM




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