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Title: The Israel Lobby - Bbc Podcast
Description: BBC World Service Interview


Comeoutofthecupboards - November 25, 2007 05:13 PM (GMT)
BBC Podcast Interview:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worlds...071123-2332.mp3 or search 'The Israel Lobby podcast' within BBC worldservice homepage

The Israel Lobby & American Foreign Policy
John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt

Expanding on their notorious 2006 article in the London Review of Books, the authors increase the megatonnage of their explosive claims about the malign influence of the pro-Israel lobby on the U.S. government. Mearsheimer and Walt, political scientists at the University of Chicago and Harvard, respectively, survey a wide coalition of pro-Israel groups and individuals, including American Jewish organizations and political donors, Christian fundamentalists, neo-con officials in the executive branch, media pundits who smear critics of Israel as anti-Semites and the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, which they characterize as having an "almost unchallenged hold on Congress." This lobby, they contend, has pressured the U.S. government into Middle East policies that are strategically and morally unjustifiable: lavish financial subsidies for Israel despite its occupation of Palestinian territories; needless American confrontations with Israel's foes Syria and Iran; uncritical support of Israel's 2006 bombing of Lebanon, which "violated the laws of war"; and the Iraq war, which "almost certainly would not have occurred had [the Israel lobby] been absent." The authors disavow conspiracy mongering, noting that the lobby's activities constitute legitimate, if misguided, interest-group politics, "as American as apple pie." Considering the authors' academic credentials and the careful reasoning and meticulous documentation with which they support their claims, the book is bound to rekindle the controversy.

travis - November 25, 2007 05:59 PM (GMT)
I have read the book.... and its fascinating, in time I will post some extracts. Mearsheimer even mentions Israeli black ops.

Reggie_perrin - November 25, 2007 06:15 PM (GMT)
Thanks, i have heard about this book, caused a bit of a stir.

Arbor - November 25, 2007 08:08 PM (GMT)
I hate AIPAC and their policies, but all they are doing is excersizing their 1st Amendment rights to free speech.

Terrorcell - November 26, 2007 01:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Arbor @ Nov 25 2007, 08:08 PM)
I hate AIPAC and their policies, but all they are doing is excersizing their 1st Amendment rights to free speech.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Arbor - November 26, 2007 02:06 AM (GMT)
Its true. They try to convince politicians that their beliefs about the Middle East is correct. AIPAC makes no donations, but their members do.

I hate AIPAC's views of the Middle East...but they are just speaking their minds.

chucksheen - November 26, 2007 02:12 AM (GMT)
Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5293917261584022246

Hetware - December 12, 2007 10:10 AM (GMT)
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So, likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld; and it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country without odium, sometimes even with popularity, gilding with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation....

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial, else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests.~George Washington







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