First the rules

I operate a Three Strikes and You're Out policy.

Answer Avoidance will score one miss. After three attempts at weaseling you are locked out.

Now the Questions.

Explain these? (Please note the QUESTION MARK at the end of the sentence, it's important)

Anomalies


The list of '9/11' Anomalies
Anomalies of the September 11th Attack, its Run-Up, and Response

Accepting the official story of the 9/11/01 attack requires one to accept a long series of anomalies -- extremely improbable events, amazing coincidences, and contradictions.




Run-Up to the Attack
Numerous incidents preceding the attack indicate many people had advanced knowledge of the attack.
Put Options
Stock trades bet on the fall in share values for the two airlines whose planes were used in the attack.
Put options purchases on United Airlines and American Airlines stock rose to six times normal levels in the days preceding the attack.
Avoidance of the Airlines, the WTC, and the Pentagon
Government officials and executives avoided the targets of the attack.
Pentagon officials canceled travel plans on September 10th.
San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown received a warning not to fly on September 10th.
Scotland Yard prohibited Salman Rushdie from flying on September 11th.
Two employees of Odigo, the instant messaging service, received e-mail warnings of the attack two hours before the first assault on the WTC.
Ariel Sharon, Prime Minister of Israel, cancelled plans to address Israeli support groups in New York City on September 11th.
Business executives, some of whom worked in the WTC, caught early planes to attend a meeting at Offutt Air Force Base on the morning of September 11th.
Hijacking Scenario
The attack scenario was irrational on the part of the alleged hijackers, and its execution is incomprehensible in light of their behavior. There is no credible evidence that Arab hijackers were involved in the September 11th attack.
Attack Plan
By flying from remote airports and going far out of their way, the attack planners exposed their plan to almost certain ruin, had the air defense system operated normally.
The originating airport for Flights 11 and 175 was Boston Logan instead of any of several airports near New York City. This created about 40 minutes of exposure to interception for each flight.
Flight 77 flew to the Midwest before turning around to return to Washington D.C.. It was airborne an hour and 23 minutes before allegedly attacking the Pentagon. That would provide ample opportunity for interception even if the air defense system were 95% disabled.
Flight 93 flew to the Midwest before turning around to fly toward Washington D.C. Had it reached the capital, it would have been airborne over an hour and a half. The odds of escaping interception with that plan would be infinitesimal under Standard Operating Procedures.
Behavior of Villains
The behavior of the alleged hijackers preceding the attack is inconsistent with skill and discipline needed to have a hope of pulling off such an attack.
Mohammed Atta allegedly barely caught Flight 11, a key flight in the event that he was supposedly planning for years.
The alleged hijackers partied at topless bars and drank alcohol, despite being portrayed as fundamentalist Muslims, for whom such behavior would be surprising.
Evidence Void
There is no hard evidence that any of the alleged hijackers were on any of the doomed flights.
No video of any of the 19 hijackers at any of the three originating airports of the four flights has been made public.
None of the alleged hijackers' names appeared on the airlines' passenger lists.
eight of the alleged hijackers have turned up alive since the attack.
None of the 4 flight crews radioed Air Traffic Control about hijackings in progress.
None of the 4 flight crews punched in the four-digit hijacking code.
No remains of any of the hijackers was identified at any of the crash sites.
Phenomenal Success
The success with which hijackers allegedly took over 4 jets with knives and then piloted the jets to small targets is simply miraculous.
None of the 4 flight crews were able to stop the alleged hijackers, in spite of several of the pilots being Vietnam veterans.
None of the alleged hijackers were good pilots, yet the three buildings were hit with phenomenal precision.
(Lack of) Military Response
Despite normal intercept times of between 10 and 20 minutes for errant domestic flights, the airliners commandeered on 9/11/01 roamed the skies for over an hour without interference.
Failures to Report
According to NORAD's timeline the FAA reported errant airliners after inexplicable delays.
The FAA took 18 minutes to report Flight 11's loss of communication and deviation from its flight plan.
The FAA took 39 minutes to report Flight 77's deviation from its flight plan.
Failures to Scramble
Interceptors were only scrambled from distant bases after long delays.
Despite the fact that Flights 11 and 175 were headed for New York City, no interceptors were scrambled from nearby Fort Dix or Laguardia, or from Langley, Virginia.
Failures to Intercept
Once in the air, interceptors flew at only small fractions of their top speeds, assuring they would fail to intercept the airliners.
The two F-15s scrambled from Otis AFB to chase Flight 11 flew at an average of 447 mph, about 23.8% their top speed of 1875 mph.
The two F-16s scrambled from Langley to protect the capital flew at an average of 410.5 mph, about 27.4% of their top speed of 1500 mph.
Failures to Redeploy
Nearby fighters on routine patrol duty were not redeployed to intercept the airliners, nor were fighters that belatedly reached Manhattan sent to defend the capital.
Two F-15s flying off the coast of Long Island were not redeployed to Manhattan until after the second tower was hit.
The two F-15s scrambled from Otis AFB to protect Manhattan could have reached the capital in 9.6 minutes once they arrived over New York City. That was still 34 minutes before the Pentagon was hit.
Building Collapses
On 9/11/01 three skyscrapers totally collapsed with fire given as the sole or primary cause. Fires and bombings have never before or since caused high rise steel-frame buildings to collapse.
Building 7
Building 7 imploded late on 9/11/01. It was not hit by an aircraft.
Building 7 experienced total collapse, allegedly because of fires, when no steel frame building before or since has ever collapsed, totally or even partially, due to fires. Building 7 was an over-engineered 47-story steel frame skyscraper, standing over 350 feet from the nearest of the Twin Towers. Only small fires burned in it on September 11th.
Building 7 collapsed in a nearly perfectly vertical fall, leaving the buildings only 60 feet on either side virtually unscathed.
Building 7 collapsed into a remarkably small rubble pile of mostly pulverized remains, when no steel building falling for any reason has ever pulverized itself.
Building 7 contained a 23-million-dollar emergency command center, but instead of using it for its ostensible purpose, then-Mayor Giuliani evacuated his team to a makeshift command center as soon as the September 11th attack started.
The emergency command center was pulverized along with the rest of the building, even though it was constructed as a bomb-hardened shelter.
The remains of Building 7 were rapidly removed and the steel recycled, evidently without any on-site and only extremely limited off-site examination. The rapid disposal operation proceeded despite the fact that no one was believed buried in the rubble, and the tidy rubble pile was not blocking adjacent roads.
Twin Towers
The Twin Towers exploded into dust and shattered steel, a behavior inconsistent with the known behavior of steel structures outside of explosive demolition.
The South Tower was struck 17 minutes after the North North Tower, and in a less damaging manner, and it had less severe fires, yet it collapsed 29 minutes before the North Tower.
The South Tower's core structure was largely undamaged by the off-centered jet impact, unlike the North Tower, yet it collapsed sooner.
The South Tower had much less severe fires than the North Tower, and yet collapsed sooner.
Smoke from the fires in the South Tower became progressively darker up to the time it collapsed.
Firefighters reached the crash zone of the South Tower and calmly described controllable fires.
Both towers started to crumble at regions well above the crash zones in the first seconds of their falls.
Both towers fell straight down, through themselves, following the path of maximum resistance, a behavior never before observed in spontaneous collapses of any type of vertical structure.
Pentagon Attack
The Pentagon attack occurred well over an hour into the crisis despite its close proximity to Andrews Air Force Base, was alegedly piloted through an extreme and precision attack maneuver by an incompetent, and resulted in the one relatively onoccupied portion of the building being hit.
Wide-Open Target
The Pentagon -- the heart of the military establishment of the world's greatest super-power -- was hit well over an hour into the attack without being protected by any defensive action.
The Pentagon is within 11 miles of Andrews Air Force Base, which apparently had two combat-ready fighter wings on 9/11/01.
The attack plane was monitored on radar as it approached the capital.
Unlikely Super-pilot
Alleged Flight 77 pilot Hani Hanjour was not up to the task.
The spiral dive approach to the Pentagon was such an extreme maneuver that experienced air traffic controllers thought it was military jet. The tree-top final approach skimmed objects in the yard and crashed the plane into the first floor of the building. Experienced pilots have wondered if any human pilot could have executed the maneuver.
Hani Hanjour was considered incompetent by his flight school instructors, and was denied rental of a single engine plane.
Evidence Vacuum
Authorities systematically confiscated or destroyed the evidence.
Video recordings from adjacent businesses were seized by the FBI shortly after the attack and never seen since.
Only five frames of video have been released by the Pentagon (and then only as an unofficial leak) from all the secutity cameras that monitor its periphery. Those frames show signs of forgery.
Investigators were not allowe access to the crash site until well into October.
More than Just a Crash
Was the crash engineered?
A photographed scrap of aircraft debris that has markings similar to an American Airlines 757 corresponds to the forward portion of the starboard (right) side of the plane, yet the scrap was far to the left of the plane's path.
Eyewitnesses reported the smell of cordite.
Several eyewitesses reported that the jetliner exploded before reaching the facace of the Pentagon.
Portions of the facade where the wing ends and tail of a 757 would have collided show no gouging. Were these parts shredded by explosives before they reached the facade?
Death Toll
The death toll of the attack, though horrific, was much lower than it would have been if not for numerous aspects of target selection and timing.
Flights
All four flights were unusually empty.
Flights 11, 175, 77, and 93 were only at 47%, 31%, 28%, and 16% occupancy, respectively.
World Trade Center
The towers were attacked before most people had arrived, and were hit high enough to allow most people to escape.
When Flight 11 hit the North Tower at 8:46 AM, the World Trade Center buildings were at less than half the occupancy of a typical mid-day.
The first tower to be attacked was hit just 15 stories below the top, and trapped people mostly between the 95th and 110th floors.
The second tower to be attacked was hit only 30 stories below the top, and the plane missed the core, allowing people to evacuate from above the impact zone. The 17 minutes that elapsed since the first hit allowed many people to escape the second tower while the elevators were still working.
Pentagon
125 people were killed in a building with 20,000 people.
The portion of the Pentagon that was attacked, the West Block, was in the process of being renovated, and so was at low occupancy.
No high-level Pentagon officials were killed in the attack.
Response
Despite the worst failure in history of the military to protect American civilians, there were no consequences for the responsible authorities, and no honest investigations.
Air Defense Failures
No one was held to account for the numerous unprecedented failures in air defense.
General Richard Myers, Acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on September 11th, was confirmed as Chairman on September 13th in spite of being unable to provide any meaningful answers to questions regarding the air defense failures.
NORAD's press release contradicted early statements by high-ranking officials that no interceptors had been scrambled on 9/11/01.
NORAD's vague timeline raises far more questions than it answers, yet officials have never been required to give a full account.
Building Collapse Inquiry
The total collapses of WTC 1, 2, and 7 were the three largest engineering failures in history (based on the official story). How was it investigated?
FEMA was given the sole authority to investigate the collapses even though it is not an investigative agency.
The investigative team assembled by FEMA consisted of unpaid volunteers.
The investigators were not allowed access to Ground Zero.
The investigators were not provided with the blueprints of the buildings.
FEMA's report states the causes of the collapse "remain unknown at this time". (By the time the report was released the steel had been entirely disposed of.) The fact that Building 7 (supposedly) failed in a way that contradicts 100 years of engineering experience makes it the largest and least understood structural failure in history.

If you managed this far Thank You for engaging in.

REASONABLE DOUBT


Have nice day

You are a Coincidence Theorist then and where there are Cons and Piracy there is ConsPiracy, as money motivates sure as there is Coin in Coincidence.

This was the only question I could answer:
Q:Have nice day
A:Almost

Technicality, I thought the OEM was 13 million to build.

Also WTC7 had 200 Million in renovations done after the Solomon lease signing.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...751C0A96F948260
BEFORE it moves into a new office tower in downtown Manhattan, Salomon Brothers, the brokerage firm, intends to spend nearly two years and more than $200 million cutting out floors, adding elevators, reinforcing steel girders, upgrading power supplies and making other improvements in its million square feet of space.

MORE than 375 tons of steel - requiring 12 miles of welding - will be installed to reinforce floors for Salomon's extra equipment. Sections of the existing stone facade and steel bracing will be temporarily removed so that workers using a roof crane can hoist nine diesel generators onto the tower's fifth floor, where they will become the core of a back-up power station

The put option increase in volume was part of a sfrategy involving the purchase of airline stock. So the purchaser made money on the puts and lost money on the stock. There had also been downgrades and warning onthe stocks in the days before the puts were purchased.

Ariel Sharon, Prime Minister of Israel, cancelled plans to address Israeli support groups in New York City on September 11th. Wasn't this meeting planned for around Sept 20 not Sept 11? Do you have any information about this meeting.

Pentagon officials canceled travel plans on September 10th. If there was insider knowledge why cancel plans for the day before the flight. Do you have any information on what trips these were that were cancelled and why they were cancelled.

Two employees of Odigo, the instant messaging service, received e-mail warnings of the attack two hours before the first assault on the WTC. Do you know anything about the details of these emails?

Do you have any evidence of planes being intercepted in this 'normal intercept time of 10-20 minutes?

The hijackers names were on the flight manifests. The official manifests were used in the Moussaoui trial. Their names were not on CNN's list of victims or on the list of identified remains.

To the best of my knowledge there has never been any credible evidence of any of the hijackers being alive. There was an early report in the British media but that has since never been verified. Although it would not have been surprising if some of them were using assumed names.


edited to add. do you really believe if it was an inside job the names would not have been on the manifests or the people named as hijackers would be people who could be found alive.

The time from the hijacking of flight 11 to it crashing into the tower was 30 minutes.
The time from the hijacking of flight 175 to it crashing into the tower was about 20 minutes neither of them had 40 minutes of exposure to interception.

What is so miraculous about them being able to take over the planes. how many hijacking attemps in the US before 9/11 do you know of that were thwarted. Many times planes in the US have been hijacked with only one hijacker. Before 9/11 the conventional wisdom was to peacefully give into to the hijackers and you would most likely be safe.

Didn't all or most of the pilots have commercial licenses? They hit the buildings we don't know what degree of "phenomenal precision" they did it with. Didn't even the person who wouldn't rent to Hani Hanjour say he thought Hanjour would have been able to point the plane at the building and crash it.

It's important to put a question mark at the end of a non-question, one which uses an imperative verb?

Then you list a bunch of statements.

What do you want us to answer exactly?

Do you think it was planned to skim the treetops and hit the first floor. Although i was under the impression the main impact was on the second floor. I would think it was reasonable to think he was aiming at the building not any particular floor. Who are these pilots who wonder if any "human pilot could have executed the maneuver". I am sure there must be one who said it but I doubt if you could get agreement from a group of professional pilots.

do you think if someone was willing to bomb the WTC with thousands of peoplein it they would have done anything in the planning to minimize the loss of life? Why would they?

There is no answer here

Strike one.

Point avoidance.
The point is that whatever the outcome the dealing was specifically those airlines and no others.

I don't know. I will give you the benefit of doubt and say that maybe your total guess is correct.

Keep going. Only another one hundred more points to go. Remember all of the points have to be answered before the blanket is lifted.

I don't know and I really don't know why you would think I know the answer to that . Fact is they did cancel. And a question is never answered by another question. I'll let you off.

The Israeli newspaper Haretz reported it.

Numerous interception exercises

Now remember I am a Questionier

Either address the questions or go away.

Another totally missed point.

These people planned to do it this way.

Now just for a moment pretend you're the terrorists.

Would you plan to allow the plane to fly away from the cities and waste time not being aware of the current status of Air National Guard deployment?

For all the hijackers knew there may have been aircraft already in the air.

The point is that this was in their plan. Do you think it was a good plan?

Keep going only another hundred or so points to address.

Remember you have to address ALL of the QUESTIONS.

Thank you

You've explained one aircraft. Of course there didn't appear to be any evidence at all that these names were in fact the terrorists just names that looked that they might have been. Moussaoui has never identified these as his accomplices. I would remind you that there were four planes.

Keep going. No questions have been answered here.

You answered your own question. The names could have been appended for the trial.

Moussaoui is still alive by the way and had nothing to do with the September 11th attacks.

Actually the Flight Instructor who supposedly trained the ACCUSED has said that he couldn't have done it.

Speculating is not an answer and I've been lenient so far

Strike One.

OK let me clarify the question.

Explain the Anomalies?

Strike two

No questions answered here? you state that the hijackers names were not on the passenger list. I answered the lists were at the trial. I believe all four of them were there with the names on them not just one. If you are interested in the truth you can look them up here.
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/...on/OG00010.html
you say they could have been added I suppose that is possible (not plausible) but none of the airline employees of whom i am sure a few at least saw each list have ever come forward after the hijackings and said none of those people were on the lists. The people who supposedly searched some of them at the airports have not come forward and say that they did not. Etc. The evidence clearly points to them being there

My answer is i don't know of any evidence that would point to that being a normal intercept time. I have never heard of that happening .It may have but do you have any evidence? Or are you just parroting something you read somewhere without looking for verification.

How does this prove or even bring into suspicion anything they did hit the building right at the start of the workday. It was reasonable for them to assume there were a lot of people in the buildings (and they would have been correct).

i have never heard this do you have a link to the quote? i have heard the man who is interviewed on Loose Change saying he thinks they could have.

you are the one who was speculating that the tree top final approach has any significance.
how many experienced pilots can you find who wonder as you stated if any "human pilot could have executed the maneuver"
Or do you think it is not important to back up your claims?

i don't see anything unusual about them hijacking planes out of Boston. The planes out of boston were going in the correct direction and after they were hijacked the time to their destination was 20 and 30 minutes. You post a claim saying there was 40 minutes of intercept time because of where they took the planes from. I clearly showed you this was incorrect and then you did what you said was not allowed. Avoidance and /or weaseling.

Strike one?

Your Quote:
Building 7 contained a 23-million-dollar emergency command center, but instead of using it for its ostensible purpose, then-Mayor Giuliani evacuated his team to a makeshift command center as soon as the September 11th attack started.

The emergency command center was pulverized along with the rest of the building, even though it was constructed as a bomb-hardened shelter.

+++++
The real cost is a fact as perhaps a 13 Million dollar command center will oblitterate faster and more completely than a 23 Million dollar command center.

What is the cost 13 Million or 23 Million?

Is it the Umpire or the Empire? The Umpire Steeeeeerikes Back!

Strike three

You're out.

Like I said I'm a questionier I have no position to defend

You do and are signally failing to do so.

You do not answer questions with a question

Strike one

So basically you can list of a bunch of unimportant , untrue or misleading statements and act as if they mean something but don't feel any need to show they are true. Is this because you known most of them are not true?

I TRIED BUT CANNOT CAST MUCH DOUBT ON THE ANOMALIES.

ONE OR TWO SUCH ANOMALIES WOULD BE EXPECTED IN ANY MAJOR DISASTER.

THE 9/11 STORY IS STITCHED TOGETHER ENTIRELY FROM IRRATIONALITY AND ANOMALY.

WE BELIEVE IT NOT FOR RATIONAL REASONS, BUT FOR EMOTIONAL REASONS.

Some of your claims need clarification please. Can you do this? Thanks.

1. Please show us how you calculated the odds of interception, or why you think it is reasonable.

2. Fundamentalist religious persons of any faith are capable of acting outside of the presumed acceptable behavior.

3. Flying an airliner to a target and crashing it is not miraculous. The aircraft were not hard to fly in calm weather, and the targets were very large.

4. There is no evidence that the flight crews even attempted to stop the hijackers. SOP at the time was to let the hijackers take the plane and let the people go later.

5. The targets were not struck with phenomenal precision. They were merely struck. Unless we know exactly where the terrorists intended to strike, we can only say they hit the targets.

6. Just because an event has happened for the first time does not make it suspicious. The WTC fires were large and intense.

7. The precision of the pentagon attack is unproven; the airliner hit a side of a very large building.

8. The maneuver into the pentagon was not extreme, it was just a diving turn, basic aircraft maneuver. The ATC merely thought a civilian plane would not be piloted that way.

9. Being incompetent to rent a Cessna does not mean too incompetent to crash an airliner into a building.

Ranb

So you're telling me that in a mid-air hijack, Standard Operating Procedure was for the pilots to hand over the plane to a hostile takeover endangering the lives of everybody aboard that plane?

One of the first reports to come out regarding the treatment of the pilots was this story from CNN, in which Barbara Olson told her husband, Ted, that everybody INCLUDING THE PILOTS, were herded to the back of the aircraft.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/nota...tims/index.html

And out of four mid-air hijacks, the fourth one being United 93, in which the pilots were warned "BEWARE: COCKPIT INTRUSION. TWO AIRCRAFT HIT WORLD TRADE CENTER", and after the pilots typed back "CONFIRMED"(see the below link at 30min, 50sec), that NONE of the eight slain pilots, let alone the UA93 pilots, on 9/11 managed to key 7500(universal hijack code) to the ground or defend their airplane from a hostile takeover?

Fast foward to 30min, 50sec
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...post&p=14628118

Is that what you're trying to sell us?

What I am saying is that for American flight crews to physically resist a hi-jacker was extremely rare. I have only heard of one case myself.

When I said "take the plane" it meant that the hi-jackers take control. This can mean the pilot remains at the controls and obeys the hi-jacker or the hi-jackers use the controls themselves. Do your videos provide evidence of the crew resisting in the cockpit?

Do you concur with my other eight comments? Thanks.

Lark

I think the UA93 "CONFIRMED" clip is all the evidence you need.

It certainly proves that the pilots were armed with the knowledge of the attacks in order to prepare themselves for a possible takeover.

The official story would have us believe that after being warned that two hijacked aircraft had already hit the World Trade Center, both pilots were simultaneously overtaken so swiftly that they didn't even have time to key the hijack warning to the ground.

Knowing a professional pilot and hearing him talk about his job, I find it impossible to believe that pilots could have been ordered out of their cockpit as CNN and FOX would both have us believe..

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...post&p=14610423

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/nota...tims/index.html

Listen to how a pilot says he would've responded in an attempted mid-air hijacking when he learned of the attacks while flying on 9/11.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=...ideoid=25360937

The UA93 pilots were warned about cockpit intrusion, acknowledged it, and yet failed to key the hijack code to the ground or defend their airplane from takeover several minutes later.

Very VERY hard to swallow.

Your first linked video appears to be from 2001 and quotes an un-named source concerning luring pilots out of the cockpit. Don’t you have anything more recent and reliable than this? Talking heads on the news and un-named sources are not evidence.

In the second video; I do not understand how your “CNN Industry, media figures among crash fatalities” article provides evidence on the pilot’s behavior. Did I miss something?

In your third video, it says in part; “For pilots, the rule of thumb has always been to be passive and cooperative. Tuesday the rules changed”. The pilot interview takes place after 9/11.

Can you show me a pilot who states (before 9/11/2001) that his flight crew would physically stop any hijacker, or better yet, has done this? I think you can not. Thanks.

Lark

I said; "There is no evidence that the flight crews even attempted to stop the hijackers. SOP at the time was to let the hijackers take the plane and let the people go later." and "What I am saying is that for American flight crews to physically resist a hi-jacker was extremely rare. I have only heard of one case myself." That is it.

There is no need to read more into my statements. We both wish the pilots had been able to keep intruders out of the cockpit or resist the terrorists, but there is no evidence that they actually did this.

Do you agree with my other statements?

Lark

Keeping in mind that the UA93 received a warning, that doesn't strike you as odd?

It says that Barbara Olson told her husband Ted that the passengers AND pilots were herded to the back of the aircraft, meaning they just stood up and handed their lives and their passenger's lives over to men with boxcutters.

Yeah right. :rolleyes:

Can you name another airliner hijacking that did not result in the terrorists taking complete control of the crew and passengers prior to 2001? Whether or not they keep the pilots at the controls, the passengers and crew are normally kept under control by the persons who hijack the aircraft. While there have been times when someone resisted, it is rare.

Why is it hard to believe that the terrorists were able to control the actions of the passengers and crew? Nothing you have said is actually evidence that the crew resisted the hijackers. If a person has a lethal weapon (maybe they said they had a bomb), most people will back down until they actually believe they will die without resisting.

While I hope they did try to keep the terrorists from gaining control of the plane, I see no evidence of it here. I think it would be odd that they did not take actions to prevent losing control of the aircraft. Whether they resisted or not, the end result was the same. The plane crashed before they could take it back from the terrorists. There is no evidence from radio transmissions or at the crash site that the crew resisted.

Lark

So you believe without question that the pilots just handed over their jet to terrorists with boxcutters while the plane was in mid-air. I guess pilots prior to 9/11 didn't have much regard for the safety of their passengers and would just willingly hand over the controls while in mid-air.

Gotcha.

And about the "no evidence of resistance", maybe we could come to a better conclusion on what really happened on AA77 and UA93 if the government would release the Cockpit Voice Recorders to the public instead of just the transcripts. All the trials are over; why do they still refuse to release the CVRs? What do they have to hide? Dont you think that evidence would help the official story along and silence people like me who question it? Does this withholding of evidence from the American people to one of the worst crimes in America seem logical to you?

I just keep it simple ... Someone Committed Murder on the scale that suggests a public investigation with the power to investigate 911, these criminals appear to be above the Law. which just so happens to be illegal in this country... so is secretly meeting with foriegn powers... violation of the Logan Act ... no one is suppose to know the law... well I no lawyer thats for sure. and lets look at Hillary a bit ..
seems she got away with the largest voter fraud in USA history and again above the Law. and what they are doing to Dr. Ron Paul Congressman is just plain UN-American ... everyone has the right to aspire to be president or have we forgotten that part of being an American.

I do not believe without question that the pilots did anything that day. I am merely asking about evidence of what the original poster claims happened. That is it. No gotcha anywhere. I’m sure the pilots had great regard for the safety of the passengers. But standard procedure back before 9/11 was to give in to the demands and wait to be released. Do you deny that SOP before 9/11 was to obey the hijackers? Have proof that it was not?

I’m sure we could come to a better conclusion with more evidence; that is why I am asking about it. If the evidence is not being withheld because of a conspiracy, then some of it is probably being withheld due to the open investigation in progress. Does this make sense?

It seems you only have old conjecture and un-named sources to prop up your statements. Rather weak if you ask me. You are also ignoring my requests to answer my questions of you. I have been polite enough to answer yours, please return the favor.

Lark

The 19 hijackers died in the crashes. The 20th man is in prison. The Taliban has suffered great losses in the invasion of Afghanistan for supporting Bin Laden. They have not been unpunished, although they deserve much more.

You are wrong about the Logan Act. It says in part; "Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."

What H. Clinton voter fraud are you talking about?

Who is "they" that are doing something (?) to Ron Paul? While everyone has the right to aspire to be POTUS, only those who meet the required age and citizenship requirements can actually do it.

Lark