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Title: Edward Felt's Phone Call At 9:58:00
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Terrorcell - November 8, 2007 03:11 AM (GMT)

Terrorcell - November 8, 2007 03:36 AM (GMT)
Westmoreland County 911 Operator John Shaw received a call from Ed Felt passenger of Flight 93 at 9:58:00.

The majority of the original info about this plane in Shanksville came from Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Since that time the site has taken down all articles and the webarchive has wiped clean.

Published reports say it lasted 78 seconds. That the passenger was calling from inside the bathroom of the plane and was using his cell phone. He said that the plane had been hijacked. The passenger then went onto describe an explosion taking place and white smoke starting to fill up the plane.

Westmoreland County 911 Supervisor Glenn Cramer Listened in on the phone call and relayed that info initially to the PPG. The FBI then confiscated that recording but not after the same Glenn Cramer is alleged to have appeared in the NYTimes denying such an event happened and that he said such an event did. NYTimes alleges Mrs Felt listened to the call and corroborated that but there is no direct quote.

Cramer and Shaw are both then placed under gag orders and remain so to this day.

Wally Miller only identified about 12-14 bodies. The rest were identified by the Armed Forces DNA Lab allegedly. But for some reason Wally Miller did not give them all the remains as he chose to keep 3 caskets worth of "unidentifiable remains". Would those have not been best to also go to the best DNA lab in the US instead of his smalltown outdated coroner's office?

Ed Felt was not on the same plane that Beamer, Glick, and the "Let's Roll" story were taken place. The plane Ed Felt was on was shot down. The planes Beamer & Glick were on allowed them to keep 6+ hour long connections. Perhaps they were on the plane that landed at Cleveland with a bomb on board initially identified as Flight 93.

While he mentioned the hijackers he made no mention of any attempt to revolt which was taken place while he was peeking out of the bathroom door.

Why did he feel the need to hide in order to make a 911 call while all the other passengers seem to have sat in their seats and very openly made phone calls to their loved ones?

Why didn't he call his wife or why didn't more passengers call 911?


A-Train - November 9, 2007 01:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Terrorcell @ Nov 8 2007, 03:36 AM)
Ed Felt was not on the same plane that Beamer, Glick, and the "Let's Roll" story were taken place. The plane Ed Felt was on was shot down. The planes Beamer & Glick were on allowed them to keep 6+ hour long connections. Perhaps they were on the plane that landed at Cleveland with a bomb on board initially identified as Flight 93.

While he mentioned the hijackers he made no mention of any attempt to revolt which was taken place while he was peeking out of the bathroom door.

We ought to divide the phone calls into two categories: Legit and Suspect. Those phone calls containing information contrary to the official story are likely legit. Ed Felt's was one of those. So was Tom Burnett's calls from UAL93 in which he pointedly mentioned guns in the possession of the hijackers.

Todd Beamer's call is quite suspect because it was made to a stranger, was not taped, and could have been made by anyone who knew details of Todd's life. Glick's call is suspect because he was/is a person with close ties to the state of Israel, which is a prime suspect in the 9/11 crimes. Glick's connection to Israel has been detailed in this forum by eagle54. Beamer worked for Larry Ellison's Oracle and traveled often to Israel.

Since the surveillance videos of the boarding gates at the three airports, including Newark Liberty airport, have mysteriously disappeared, we don't know who really was on UAL93. Glick's and Beamer's calls could have been made from anywhere, and in Beamer's case, by anyone. Tom Burnett, however, was undoubtedly on the plane and he reported plans for a passenger revolt. The FBI was listening in as he told those plans to his wife Deena. Was anyone else listening in? We can be sure there was some kind of passenger revolt based on Burnett's call-- it's the logical thing to do in such a desperate situation. But did they ever get to the cockpit? Probably not.

I don't think you should be so sure UAL93 was shot down. Felt reported white smoke and an explosion, which would be consistent with a shoot-down... and consistent with other scenarios as well. The smoke and explosion could have been from a CS Gas cannister placed by the hijackers in the middle of the plane to keep the passengers in the back. Remember Betty Ong's report of "mace or something...we can't breath" from AAL11? I recently talked to a friend just back from the West Bank of Palestine. He says the Israelis are quite adept at all kinds of poisonous gas used for crowd control.

Another possibility is that the explosion that holed the plane was from a suitcase bomb in the cabin designed to destroy evidence. Such a bomb may also have gone off seconds before AAL77 hit the Pentagon, explaining why the plane seems to have come apart before impact.

I don't buy that the US Military shot down UAL93. The Military was duped into passivity on 9/11, and played no active role. There are too many loyal elements in the Military, and covering up a shootdown would be too messy.




Zaphod 36 - November 9, 2007 10:55 AM (GMT)
Jere Longman(Page 337):
"Ed seemed at one moment to be peering out of the bathroom, as if checking to see what might be going on. As she listened to the tape later, Sandra Felt likened the noises to street-level sounds one heard when riding a Ferris wheel - many voices were audible, but none that could be picked out clearly."

Felt was calling from the bathroom at the rear of the plane.
Was he the only one who was not urged by hijackers to make a phone call?
Did he saw the smoke(explosion) after peering out of the bathroom?

Terrorcell - November 17, 2007 08:49 PM (GMT)

Terrorcell - November 20, 2007 06:53 AM (GMT)
So the question I propose is :

Why was Ed hiding in the bathroom to make a phone call if others were doing it openly and people were planning a revolt and were boiling water to attack the hijackers with?

JackD - November 21, 2007 12:36 AM (GMT)
'cause Ed was afraid?

how did his GTE airfone reach into the bathroom? that' s the part i dont get.

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in seriousness, it would appear that Ed Felt's phone call did not come from the same place, or same plane, as the other documented calls.

Just as in the AA11 calls, there are huge discrepancies from call to call between "what was happening to plane" in terms of turns, dives, etc and other people's reports.

Where was Ed, physcially located when he made this call?

IF he truly made it from UA93, then, I dont think the OTHER calls were from UA93, and viceversa.




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