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Title: High Alert! 911 Truthers To Goto Jail


Yakhont26 - October 30, 2007 03:30 AM (GMT)
This was deliberately written in a very alarmist tone for a reason.

'Thought Crime' Legislation of H.R. 1955 was just passed into law. It means if you have ANY material of a violent planning nature or of a violent thought nature it is a crime. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955

911 Truthers have to start thinking like the Elite - for they do not fight anybody they outmaneuver them. 911 Truthers need to be ahead of this law and prevent the US government from using it to break the 911 truth movement to pieces.

If you have the following Videos :
DeathStar - the Dancing Muslim Video could be mistaken for terrorist extremism violent planning
Dead Prez - Know Your Enemy could be mistaken for violent planning.

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mynameis - October 30, 2007 06:26 AM (GMT)
This is a very important notice of the treason in our midst.

Spengler - November 3, 2007 06:38 AM (GMT)
I guarantee that Alex Jones is working in complicity with the government to make possible the justification of this bill. That SOB indeed has distorted the real agenda of the truth movement and worst of all, so many idiots follow his guidelines.

Big Brother: House passes the "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act"
House Passes Thought Crime Prevention Bill


By Lee Rogers

Global Research, November 2, 2007
roguegovernment.com

The U.S. House of Representatives recently passed HR 1955 titled the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. This bill is one of the most blatant attacks against the Constitution yet and actually defines thought crimes as homegrown terrorism. If passed into law, it will also establish a commission and a Center of Excellence to study and defeat so called thought criminals. Unlike previous anti-terror legislation, this bill specifically targets the civilian population of the United States and uses vague language to define homegrown terrorism. Amazingly, 404 of our elected representatives from both the Democrat and Republican parties voted in favor of this bill. There is little doubt that this bill is specifically targeting the growing patriot community that is demanding the restoration of the Constitution.

First let’s take a look at the definitions of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as defined in Section 899A of the bill.

The definition of violent radicalization uses vague language to define this term of promoting any belief system that the government considers to be an extremist agenda. Since the bill doesn’t specifically define what an extremist belief system is, it is entirely up to the interpretation of the government. Considering how much the government has done to destroy the Constitution they could even define Ron Paul supporters as promoting an extremist belief system. Literally, the government according to this definition can define whatever they want as an extremist belief system. Essentially they have defined violent radicalization as thought crime. The definition as defined in the bill is shown below.

`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

The definition of homegrown terrorism uses equally vague language to further define thought crime. The bill includes the planned use of force or violence as homegrown terrorism which could be interpreted as thinking about using force or violence. Not only that but the definition is so vaguely defined, that petty crimes could even fall into the category of homegrown terrorism. The definition as defined in the bill is shown below.

`(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Section 899B of the bill goes over the findings of Congress as it pertains to homegrown terrorism. Particularly alarming is that the bill mentions the Internet as a main source for terrorist propaganda. The bill even mentions streams in obvious reference to many of the patriot and pro-constitution Internet radio networks that have been formed. It also mentions that homegrown terrorists span all ages and races indicating that the Congress is stating that everyone is a potential terrorist. Even worse is that Congress states in their findings that they should look at draconian police states like Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom as models to defeat homegrown terrorists. Literally, these findings of Congress fall right in line with the growing patriot community.

The biggest joke of all is that this section also says that any measure to prevent violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism should not violate the constitutional rights of citizens. However, the definition of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as they are defined in section 899A are themselves unconstitutional. The Constitution does not allow the government to arrest people for thought crimes, so any promises not to violate the constitutional rights of citizens are already broken by their own definitions.

`SEC. 899B. FINDINGS.

`The Congress finds the following:

`(1) The development and implementation of methods and processes that can be utilized to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States is critical to combating domestic terrorism.

`(2) The promotion of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence exists in the United States and poses a threat to homeland security.

`(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

`(4) While the United States must continue its vigilant efforts to combat international terrorism, it must also strengthen efforts to combat the threat posed by homegrown terrorists based and operating within the United States.

`(5) Understanding the motivational factors that lead to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence is a vital step toward eradicating these threats in the United States.

`(6) The potential rise of self radicalized, unaffiliated terrorists domestically cannot be easily prevented through traditional Federal intelligence or law enforcement efforts, and requires the incorporation of State and local solutions.

`(7) Individuals prone to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence span all races, ethnicities, and religious beliefs, and individuals should not be targeted based solely on race, ethnicity, or religion.

`(8) Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights and civil liberties of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents.

`(9) Certain governments, including the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia have significant experience with homegrown terrorism and the United States can benefit from lessons learned by those nations.

Section 899C calls for a commission on the prevention of violent radicalization and ideologically based violence. The commission will consist of ten members appointed by various individuals that hold different positions in government. Essentially, this is a commission that will examine and report on how they are going to deal with violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism. So basically, the commission is being formed specifically on how to deal with thought criminals in the United States. The bill requires that the commission submit their final report 18 months following the commission’s first meeting as well as submit interim reports every 6 months leading up to the final report. Below is the bill’s defined purpose of the commission. Amazingly they even define one of the purposes of the commission to determine the causes of lone wolf violent radicalization.

(b) Purpose- The purposes of the Commission are the following:

`(1) Examine and report upon the facts and causes of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States, including United States connections to non-United States persons and networks, violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in prison, individual or `lone wolf' violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence, and other faces of the phenomena of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence that the Commission considers important.

`(2) Build upon and bring together the work of other entities and avoid unnecessary duplication, by reviewing the findings, conclusions, and recommendations of--

`(A) the Center of Excellence established or designated under section 899D, and other academic work, as appropriate;

`(B) Federal, State, local, or tribal studies of, reviews of, and experiences with violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence; and

`© foreign government studies of, reviews of, and experiences with violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence.

Section 899D of the bill establishes a Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States. Essentially, this will be a Department of Homeland Security affiliated institution that will study and determine how to defeat thought criminals.

Section 899E of the bill discusses how the government is going to defeat violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism through international cooperation. As stated in the findings section earlier in the legislation, they will unquestionably seek the advice of countries with draconian police states like the United Kingdom to determine how to deal with this growing threat of thought crime.

Possibly the most ridiculous section of the bill is Section 899F which states how they plan on protecting civil rights and civil liberties while preventing ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism. Here is what the section says.

`SEC. 899F. PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES WHILE PREVENTING IDEOLOGICALLY-BASED VIOLENCE AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM.

`(a) In General- The Department of Homeland Security's efforts to prevent ideologically-based violence and homegrown terrorism as described herein shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, and civil liberties of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents.

`(b) Commitment to Racial Neutrality- The Secretary shall ensure that the activities and operations of the entities created by this subtitle are in compliance with the Department of Homeland Security's commitment to racial neutrality.

`© Auditing Mechanism- The Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Officer of the Department of Homeland Security will develop and implement an auditing mechanism to ensure that compliance with this subtitle does not result in a disproportionate impact, without a rational basis, on any particular race, ethnicity, or religion and include the results of its audit in its annual report to Congress required under section 705.'.

(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of contents in section 1(b) of such Act is amended by inserting at the end of the items relating to title VIII the following:

It states in the first subsection that in general the efforts to defeat thought crime shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights and civil liberties of the United States citizens and lawful permanent residents. How does this protect constitutional rights if they use vague language such as in general that prefaces the statement? This means that the Department of Homeland Security does not have to abide by the Constitution in their attempts to prevent so called homegrown terrorism.

This bill is completely insane. It literally allows the government to define any and all crimes including thought crime as violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism. Obviously, this legislation is unconstitutional on a number of levels and it is clear that all 404 representatives who voted in favor of this bill are traitors and should be removed from office immediately. The treason spans both political parties and it shows us all that there is no difference between them. The bill will go on to the Senate and will likely be passed and signed into the law by George W. Bush. Considering that draconian legislation like the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act have already been passed, there seems little question that this one will get passed as well. This is more proof that our country has been completely sold out by a group of traitors at all levels of government.
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Repentless - November 7, 2007 07:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE

`(8) Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liberties of United States citizens or lawful permanent residents.


That's the only safeguard we have, apparently. But then, who is it that decides whether your constitutional rights, civil rights, or civil liverties are being violated? Does the bill define your civil rights or civil liberties? (Constitutional rights are a given- but we've got the Patriot Act to amend that.)

<_<
:unsure:

Silver Tips - November 7, 2007 07:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Spengler @ Nov 3 2007, 01:38 AM)
I guarantee that Alex Jones is working in complicity with the government to make possible the justification of this bill. That SOB indeed has distorted the real agenda of the truth movement and worst of all, so many idiots follow his guidelines.

wooooh, woooh, hang on!


I thought Alex Jones was a hero amongst truthers, Dylan, etc.


Don't tell me that Alex is now considered an enemy of the movement?!?!------>> I'm not being sarcastic or anything here, I am seriously confused.


What the hell is going on?!?!?


Can someone please just provide a list of:


1. GOOD GUYS

2. BAD GUYS


So I know who to trust.

Repentless - November 7, 2007 07:18 PM (GMT)
Yeah, a lot of people think Jones is some sort of CIA operative or something.... but then again, I had a dude telling me that Dylan was the other day. :rolleyes:

Silver Tips - November 7, 2007 07:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Repentless @ Nov 7 2007, 02:18 PM)
Yeah, a lot of people think Jones is some sort of CIA operative or something.... but then again, I had a dude telling me that Dylan was the other day. :rolleyes:

This is all crazy!

We are all going to go insane here... like, totally paranoid. It's like, if you can trust someone like Alex (or even DYLAN 4 GOD'S SAKE!!), who the hell CAN you trust.

I hate this! :unsure:

Spengler - November 9, 2007 06:22 PM (GMT)
Dylan should get the benefit of the doubt, since he's not mixing Loose Change agenda with the political garbage called "New World Order" (embraced by that fucking prick of Alex Jones).

Moreover, if you carefully review Jones position on this delicate topic you will realize that he's intentionally distorting the REAL AGENDA of the Truth Movement -to demand a new and independent investigation on the events of 9/11- by linking it with Ron Paul's political campaign.

One more thing, where is the link between Ron Paul and the Truth Movement? As far as I know. that bullshitter (congressman Paul) DOESN'T SUPPORT a new investigation nor he believes the US government should be held accountable for what happened that day.

Besides this, there are many idiots in this country who are easy to manipulate with a little bit of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic garbage in order to accomplish a dubious political goal.

Should be interesting to start confronting that SOB of Alex Jones with some questions like who is indeed financing him and most important, DO NOT BUY ANY OF HIS PRODUCTS -then people will realize if this prick really cares about the Truth Movement.

ron1872 - November 10, 2007 09:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Spengler @ Nov 9 2007, 01:22 PM)


One more thing, where is the link between Ron Paul and the Truth Movement? As far as I know. that bullshitter (congressman Paul) DOESN'T SUPPORT a new investigation nor he believes the US government should be held accountable for what happened that day.


There is no link between Ron Paul and the Truth movement, he does not support it nor do any of the other candidates.

Shallel - November 10, 2007 06:01 PM (GMT)
Dennis Kucinich supports a new investigation, and is trying to impeach Cheney to stop WW3.

Please do all you can to support this brave, honest man!

Thanks and Blessings, Shalle

dragon11 - November 10, 2007 11:22 PM (GMT)
Reminds me of The Monsters are Due on Maple Street.

People, WAKE UP! Wake up to the FEAR that is consuming you!

Quit being paranoid!

Can you not see that this is how they hope to divide us? By getting everyone confused & paranoid, so that there is bickering and discord from within?

Quit trying to categorize everyone into 'good' and 'bad' - that is an oversimplification!

Most people are not 100% one way or the other, but fall somewhere inbetween.

You don't need to decide if Alex Jones is %100 right on or not.

Personally, I think he may have a lot of truth, but he's too doom and gloom. He's a defeatist. So are a lot of people on this forum - might as well just roll over and die, or else they want to start a war in their backyard.

Use your own common sense. Read the info, watch the videos, then decide for yourself what has the ring of truth to it, instead of blindly following ANYONE!

Don't trade one leader for another. BECOME A LEADER YOURSELF!

We need to have HOPE and think POSITIVE that we CAN make a difference in this country.

The Ron Paul movement is a manifestation of the power of the people RISING UP to reclaim our liberties and freedoms.

ihatecreditors - November 11, 2007 11:23 PM (GMT)
Don't hate on me guys. I am well open to believing what was mentioned here.
But I must confess my either A.) Ignorance or B.) Your ignorance.

I am asking for someone to please show me exactly step by step with a good explination quoting the text in the link given in the first post where the bill is located. I want you to explain to me where there is a law that says we can to jail for a thought crime?

Please realize intimidating someone is already illegal no matter what its for. AKA VIOLENT RADICALIZATION....'facilitating ideologically based violence'.
Any persons who wants to use violence 'by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs'. That is illegal, violence in any shape or form is illegal. (threat intimidation hurt)

I do not see any new 'law'.


`Sec. 899A. Definitions.
(This section defines the meanings of four new terms.)

`Sec. 899B. Findings.
(The findings of congress that lead to the passing of this bill)

`Sec. 899C. National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Ideologically Based Violence.
(The purpose of this section is to create a Commission to learn about the definition's in 'Sec 899A. Definitions. It also defines the purpose of the Commission.)

`Sec. 899D. Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States.
( This Section creates a 'Learning Center' for the definitions in 'Sec 899A. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States)

`Sec. 899E. Preventing violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism through international cooperative efforts.
(Says that States, Cities, and Other country's can share information with Home Land Security and new techniques for the purpose of 'Sec 899A.)

`Sec. 899F. Protecting civil rights and civil liberties while preventing ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism.'.
(Directly says this will not violate any Civil Rights or Civil Liberties and shows the 'Auditing Mechanism' that will keep that in 'check')



Am I wrong??




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