Here's my latest blog entry with some information you may already know, and other information you probably haven't seen before. The original is posted here:
http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2007/10/...and-silent.html
and here: http://www.911blogger.com/node/12235

Todd Beamer's Odd Phone Call and the Silent Crash of Flight 93

A key element of the official 9/11 story is the phone call Todd Beamer made from United Airlines Flight 93 shortly before it supposedly crashed in rural Pennsylvania. It was at the end of this call that Beamer was heard declaring: "Let's roll," before joining a passenger revolt against the terrorists. Without this now-famous call to battle, 9/11 would arguably have been less effective in motivating the public to get behind the war on terror. By May 2002, the Washington Post reported, Beamer's phrase "Let's roll" had been "Embraced and promoted by President Bush as a patriotic battle cry," and was "now emblazoned on Air Force fighter planes, city firetrucks, school athletic jerseys, and countless T-shirts, baseball caps and souvenir buttons. It's also commemorated in popular songs." [1] The London Evening Standard called Beamer's final words "a symbol of America's determination to fight back." [2] Rowland Morgan, author of the book Flight 93 Revealed, concluded: "Truly, the Let's Roll slogan had become a call to arms--just at a time the White House needed it most." [3] Yet, an examination of Todd Beamer's phone call reveals numerous oddities, coincidences, and seeming impossibilities.

THE ODD PHONE CALL
For 13 minutes, Beamer had spoken with Lisa Jefferson, a customer service supervisor at GTE Airfone's Chicago call center. He explained to her that his plane had been hijacked, and, assisted by a flight attendant sitting next to him, provided details about the flight. He also talked about his pregnant wife and two young sons. Being a devout Christian, he asked Jefferson to recite the Lord's Prayer with him, and then recited the 23rd Psalm. Before declaring his famous last words, Beamer said some of the passengers were going to try and seize control of the plane. At around 9:58 a.m., he put the phone down and was heard saying to someone else: "You ready? OK. Let's roll." [4]

The first thing that was odd about this call is the simple fact that Beamer was able to talk to Jefferson continuously for 13 minutes. In her 2002 book, his wife Lisa Beamer revealed that Jefferson had informed her "it was a miracle that Todd's call hadn't been disconnected." The reason: "Because of the enormous number of calls that day, the GTE systems overloaded and lines were being disconnected all around her as she sat at the operator's station outside of Chicago, talking to Todd. [Jefferson] kept thinking, This call is going to get dropped! Yet Todd stayed connected ... all the way to the end." [5] Very fortunate indeed this was, because if the call had become disconnected there would have been no "Let's roll" slogan for the war on terror.

A further oddity was Todd Beamer's remarkable calmness, despite the catastrophic situation he was in. Jefferson recalled: "Todd, when he came to me, he was calm. ... [H]e stayed calm through the entire conversation." [6] In her 2006 book, Called, Jefferson wrote: "[H]is voice was devoid of any stress. In fact, he sounded so tranquil it made me begin to doubt the authenticity and urgency of his call." [7] She told Beamer's wife: "If I hadn't known it was a real hijacking, I'd have thought it was a crank call, because Todd was so rational and methodical about what he was doing." [8]

WHY DIDN'T BEAMER TALK TO HIS WIFE?
At some point during the call, Beamer said he did not think he was going to survive, telling Jefferson: "I know we're not going to make it out of here." [9] He gave her his home phone number and said: "If I don't make it out of this, would you please call my family and let them know how much I love them?" [10] Yet he refused offers to be put through to his wife. Jefferson has recalled: "I asked if he wanted to be connected to his wife." But, "he said no, that he did not want to upset her as they were expecting their third child in January." [11]

However, before reaching the call center, Todd Beamer had supposedly been trying to call his wife, but was simply unable to get through. [12] According to a summary of passenger phone calls presented at the 2006 trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, Beamer tried making this call just before 9:44 a.m., but it had been "terminated upon connection." [13] His wife has recalled that she heard her phone ring twice before stopping, and then, moments later, ringing once more. She said: "When I picked it up, it was dead air. I feel fairly confident that it was Todd. It would be on his mind to call me, to protect me." [14] According to some accounts, he reached the call center because his call was automatically routed there when his attempt at reaching his wife failed. [15] (However, other accounts claim he'd reached it by dialing "0" on the Airfone. [16])

The question remains: If Todd Beamer really did not want to talk to his wife because she was pregnant and he was afraid he might upset her, why had be been trying to phone her in the first place? Even if we somehow accept that he'd changed his mind over the space of a few minutes, another question arises: Why had Beamer not instead asked Jefferson to try and put him through to his parents, or one of his sisters, or another relative, or a friend? Instead, he'd apparently been content to talk with a stranger, explaining to Jefferson: "I just want to talk to somebody and just let someone know that this is happening." [17]

THE SILENT CRASH OF FLIGHT 93
Perhaps the oddest aspect of the call is what happened after 9:58, when Todd Beamer put the phone down to join the passenger revolt against the hijackers. Jefferson has recalled: "After he said, 'Let's roll,' he left the phone, and I would assume that's at the point that they went to charge the cockpit. And I was still on the line and the plane took a dive, and by then, it just went silent. I held on until after the plane crashed--probably about 15 minutes longer and I never heard a crash--it just went silent because--I can't explain it. We didn't lose a connection because there's a different sound that you use. It's a squealing sound when you lose a connection. I never lost connection, but it just went silent." [18]

Now how is this possible? Firstly, how could the call have remained connected after the plane crashed? According to the summary of passenger phone calls presented at the Moussaoui trial, Beamer's call lasted "3,925 seconds." [19] This would mean it did not end until 10:49 a.m., about three-quarters of an hour after Flight 93 supposedly crashed. And, secondly, how could there have been silence when the crash occurred?

WAS BEAMER'S CALL RECORDED?
Considering that Todd Beamer's call is central to the official 9/11 narrative, it would be helpful if a recording of it were available to be properly analyzed. However, all that supposedly exists is a summary written by Jefferson. According to journalist and author Jere Longman: "GTE-Verizon did not routinely tape its telephone calls. As a supervisor, [Jefferson] would have been the one to monitor the taping, but she did not want to risk losing the call." [20] In her own book, Jefferson claimed she had "not had a chance to press the switch in my office that initiates the taping of a conversation." [21] Rowland Morgan has pointed out that this means the evidence of Beamer's call is "single-sourced, unsubstantiated hearsay of which there was no record. ... [Jefferson] had no idea what Beamer's voice sounded like, and she would never hear it again to judge whether he had actually been speaking to her." [22] However, a week after 9/11 the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette had claimed otherwise, stating that, "because it was to an operator," the call "was tape-recorded." [23] If a recording of the call indeed exists, it has been kept well hidden.

Todd Beamer's call in fact only came to light five days after the attacks, in a report in the Post-Gazette. [24] Beamer's wife first learned of it three days after the attacks, in a phone call from United Airlines. Until then, the FBI had been keeping the information private until it had an opportunity to review it. (Yet how long does it take to review a written summary of a 13-minute phone call?) [25] An FBI agent had phoned Lisa Jefferson on the afternoon of 9/11. She recalled: "I was told to maintain secrecy. In fact, he stressed the importance of keeping the matter under wraps." [26] But why? What was there to hide?

THE SHAKY FOUNDATION OF THE WAR ON TERROR
Clearly, many things seem odd about Todd Beamer's phone call. For now, it is really up to each of us to decide what we think was going on. But it should concern us all that the war on terror is founded upon such dubious evidence. This war, after all, has caused the deaths of thousands of Americans, tens of thousands of Afghans, and over a million Iraqis. It's time to go back and properly investigate the event that started it all.

NOTES
[1] Peter Perl, "Hallowed Ground." Washington Post, May 12, 2002.
[2] James Langton, "Pain and Joy of 11." Evening Standard, August 19, 2002.
[3] Rowland Morgan, "Flight 93 'Was Shot Down' Claims Book." Daily Mail, August 18, 2006.
[4] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes: United Flight 93 and the Passengers and Crew Who Fought Back. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2002, pp. 198-200 and 203-204; Wes Smith, "Operator Can't Forget Haunting Cries From Flight 93." Orlando Sentinel, September 5, 2002.
[5] Lisa Beamer and Ken Abraham, Let's Roll!: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Courage. Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers, 2002, p. 217.
[6] Wendy Schuman, "'I Promised I Wouldn't Hang Up.'" Beliefnet, 2006.
[7] Lisa Jefferson and Felicia Middlebrooks, Called. Chicago: Northfield Publishing, 2006, p. 33.
[8] Lisa Beamer and Ken Abraham, Let's Roll! p. 211.
[9] Douglas Holt, "Call Records Detail How Passengers Foiled 2nd Washington Attack." Chicago Tribune, September 16, 2001.
[10] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 200.
[11] Wes Smith, "Operator Can't Forget Haunting Cries From Flight 93."
[12] U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, "Stipulation [Regarding Flights Hijacked on September 11, 2001; September 11, 2001 Deaths; al Qaeda; Chronology of Hijackers' Activities; Zacarias Moussaoui; and the Computer Assisted Passenger Pre-Screening System (CAPPS)]." March 1, 2006, p. 11.
[13] U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, "Summary From Flight 93 Depicting: The Identity of Pilots and Flight Attendants, Seat Assignments of Passengers, and Telephone Calls From the Flight." July 31, 2006.
[14] Jaxon Van Derbeken, "Bound by Fate, Determination: The Final Hours of the Passengers Aboard SF-Bound Flight 93." San Francisco Chronicle, September 17, 2001.
[15] Karen Breslau, "The Final Moments of United Flight 93." Newsweek, September 22, 2001; Dennis B. Roddy, "Flight 93: Forty Lives, One Destiny." Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, October 28, 2001; Glen Johnson, "Probe Reconstructs Horror, Calculated Attacks on Planes." Boston Globe, November 23, 2001; U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, March 1, 2006, p. 11.
[16] Jim McKinnon, "GTE Operator Connects With, Uplifts Widow of Hero in Hijacking." Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, September 19, 2001; Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, pp. 198-199; Wes Smith, "Operator Can't Forget Haunting Cries From Flight 93."
[17] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 204.
[18] Wendy Schuman, "'I Promised I Wouldn't Hang Up.'"
[19] U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, July 31, 2006.
[20] Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 199.
[21] Lisa Jefferson and Felicia Middlebrooks, Called, p. 36.
[22] Rowland Morgan, "Flight 93 'Was Shot Down' Claims Book."
[23] Jim McKinnon, "GTE Operator Connects With, Uplifts Widow of Hero in Hijacking."
[24] Jim McKinnon, "The Phone Line From Flight 93 Was Still Open When a GTE Operator Heard Todd Beamer Say: 'Are You Guys Ready? Let's Roll.'" Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, September 16, 2001.
[25] Lisa Beamer and Ken Abraham, Let's Roll! pp. 185-186.
[26] Lisa Jefferson and Felicia Middlebrooks, Called, p. 69.

This could mean Flight 93 didn`t crashed in Shanksville. It could had been landed safely in Cleveland at around 10:45(Flight X of Woody).

The same oddity with Jeremy Glicks phone call:
According to Jere Longman(Page 371), Makely remained on the line for ninety minutes. He thought he heard the sound of a phone banging against something.

The line left open for 7567 seconds(!)

also with jeremy's phone call to his wife dana he says;
"there going to take us into the ground we have to do something"
Hmm.. he diddnt speak arabic, and surely the hijackers knew where they was targeting? and my guess is that it isnt the ground

from
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/193/story_19399_1.html

did the "Todd Beamer" on the phone with GTE representative Lisa Jefferson have a HANDLER next to him to ASSIST with phone call answers?
Recall that Lisa Jefferson OFFERED to put him through to his WIFE but Todd refused....

How did she do that?

Two interpretations

1) there was a flight stewardess sitting next to Todd Beamer. Rather than yielding the phone to her, so that she could give important emergency information about location of plane, speed, number and seat location of hijackers, injured people, etc.... and have Lisa Jefferson of GTE patch her though to the FBI, what does she do?

she sits there, and helps "todd beamer" when he is asked a question he is not sure of... like "what is your flight number?" -- or "how many people have been stabbed"

2) second possibility -- "todd beamer"is not really Todd. and the person sitting next to him is not really a stew. none of this is real, but being read from a script.


Possibility #1 is hard for me to swallow, knowing how well-trained flight attendents are, and how they would respond.

Possibility #2 is hard to swallow, because it conjures up a creepy fake phone call conspiracy...


which explanation do you prefer?

Todd Beamer and the rest of the Let's Roll Team are an interesting group.

Most of the phone calls from Flight 93 were from members of this Team.

The members of the Team shared a lot of the same traits. They were mostly young, white men, with short dark hair and very athletic. There's one more significant similarity. Most of the were Fundie Xians.

Who else but a True Believer, be willing to give their life for their lord and savior George W Bush?

Maybe instead of 72 virgins, they got 72 communion wafers?

I'm not sure why you feel the need to disrespect the dead. You think these people gave their lives for Bush? Does that make any sense at all? They were stuck on a hijacked plane which they had good reason to believe was going to be crashed. It seems to me the reasonable explanation is that they fought to save their own lives as well as the others who would be killed when the hijackers reached their intended target. Also, what's your source for most of the "team" being Fundamentalist Christians? You do understand that Fundamentalist means a belief in the literal truth of every word in the Bible and that one can be a Christian without being a Fundamentalist right? Also I assume by "team" you mean the four that are usually mentioned, those being Thomas Burnett Jr., Mark Bingham, Jeremy Glick, and Todd Beamer.

As for Todd Beamer's calmness, have you ever heard of people reacting differently to situations? Jeremy Glick's wife said that her husband was nervous when she spoke to him (src: http://www.unitedheroes.com/Jeremy-Glick.html ). Maybe Todd also decided to push past his fear and just focus on taking out the hijackers. In order to answer the question of his calmness you would have to have actually been him during his last moments.

todd beamer's phone call , as problematic as it is, is one of the LEAST problematic phone calls from 9/11/01.

Todd Beamer is offiically "missing" since 9/11/01 and "presumed dead" -- which is different than being "declared dead"

I would tend to think Mr Beamer and the rest are indeed long since deceased, either on 9/11, or via some other fashion.

as for the phone calls, google "John Doe II" and "phone calls" and get yourself sorted.

The Beamer, Burnett & other phone calls are still very open to debate.

The only UA93 call that seems to hold water is Mark Felt's.

Mark Felt is "Deep Throat". I assume you mean Edward Felt. Please explain why his call holds water and the others don't.

Todd Beamer was not on the same plane as Edward Felt.

Are you saying Todd Beamer was not on Flight 93 or that Edward Felt was not on Flight 93?

I don't know who was on what flight but I know those 2 weren't on the same one.

Edward Felt made no mention of any type of revolt and was peeking out of the bathroom while other passengers were alleged to have been making calls without the hijackers showing the slightest concern.

Simultaneously Beamer fails to make any mention of any type of explosion and white smoke filling up the plane.

They were both on 2 seperate planes experiencing 2 seperate events.

Whoever was on the same plane as Burnett had hijackers who were armed with guns and either a bomb or something that appeared to look like a bomb.


Cooperative Research

Scroll down to the bottom of the page you just linked to and read the March 27, 2002 entry.

This Jefferson lady sounds like a bit of a Prophet Mohammed, ie only she heard the words said, yet we are to take her word for it that that is what she heard.

I had no idea that it was completely unsubstantiated.

Well Todd was talking to her only. I'm not sure how many people you expect to have heard what he said.

He makes his claims that Felt's claims are incorrect according to the CVR of UA93. I already stated Felt was on a different plane. He is not saying it is inaccurate after listening to the Westmoreland County 911 call recording.

He confirms that there were guns on the plane as well.

There is no way Longman can determine what transpired on Felt's phone call without hearing it. All 911 calls are recorded. Felt's call has been classified and sequestered.

So what was the point you were trying to make?

My point was a major reason you have for claiming that Felt was on a different plane, that he reported white smoke, seems to be false. srcs: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburgh...er/s_90872.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...n=&pagewanted=2

Longman is only reporting what the operator who took Edward Felt's call, John Shaw, says.

Shaw & Cramer are both under gag orders. You don't think I contact people before I make claims?

Why would 2 people working for Westmoreland County 911 who took the call (Shaw = Supervisor) say that he said "A" on 9/11 and then later say "B" and then be placed under gag orders and not allowed to talk about it if "B" is true?

See I don't need Longman's "bullshit" reporting because I can do my own investigating.

What's your source for both of them being under gag orders? If you contacted them directly as you seem to be implying then you won't mind providing contact information for them.

I just assumed from the fact that he is quoted so many times that there was a recording of the phone call. We are to take one unproven report from one person as fact?

do your homework or better yet go to the JREF and they'll give you their emails. i'm not wating my time looking up their emails again for an alleged "skeptic" that isn't skeptical of anything the media or government says.....

Why should I do my homework for a dubious claim you have made? I ask you to simply provide a source for your claims.

I am the source for my claim and I have contact information and I am choosing not to post it publicly. If you would like to do your own individual corroboration of my claim they are under gag orders I told you where you could go and get such information handed to you on a silver platter.

Or you could learn to use "The Google".

If you don't want to post it publicly then simply send me a private message. That would be easy enough to do.

I told you go to JREF and ask.

I do not know you. I do not know a thing about you. I don't care if YOU believe me or not. YOUR opinion does not matter to me and I have no interest in proving anything to YOU.

The last thing I'm going to do is give you someone's contact info without their permission. JREF do that, not me.

For all I know you're that inbred troy from west va.

There was no recording of the beamer phone call, it is just single sourced hearsay.
Lisa Jefferson failed to record the call which went against standard procedure, despite this Verizon gave her the Verizon Excellence Award in 2002. Todd Beamer's wife did not know Todd had even made the call until 4 days later because the FBI had wanted "an opportunity to review the material", but Todd's boss Larry Ellison and others knew about the call before his wife was even aware it had taken place.

Alright I'll go to the JREF forum and ask. Also I have no idea who "that inbred troy from west va" is.

I'd like to know if you contacted these men by email which you seem to be implying. Also I'd be interested in knowing exactly what you asked them and exactly what they said.

Did you go to the JREF?

Did they give you anyones contact info?

I have spoken with people at Johnstown ATC and Westmoreland County 911. How & When I contacted them is none of your concern Mr. Anonymous FBI Agent. Who told me what is none of your concern either.

I KNOW FOR A FACT A PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN HERE IN WESTERN PA AND PEOPLE ARE UNDER GAG ORDERS MUCH LIKE THE ONES IMPOSED ON SIBEL EDMONDS.

Because we live in a free country you are free to believe I am not telling the truth. Those who know me know I am and that's all that matters to me at this moment in time.

I was simply asking you to support your argument. This is a debate forum and I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to ask you to do. It strikes me that a good way to do it would be to post exactly how you phrased your questions and how exactly the people in question answered them. You choose not to for some reason so I will let it rest there.

I choose not to because if someone relayed information to me that they shouldn't have done I am not going to make it public and destroy their lives.

The reason I am able to gather so much info is because of the level of trust I have managed to achieve among several eyewitnesses whom are willing to vouch for my integrity should other witnesses be hesitant to speak to me.

When my investigation of this is finished I will make a full presentation which will prove beyond all shadow of a doubt the official story is a lie and the eyewitness testimonial I released of Susan McElwain will be corroborated over and over and over again.