A friend and I uncovered this a while ago, but I don't know if it's been made known to folks on this forum...

We all know by now that many of the alleged hijackers made no efforts to conceal their identities or activities as they moved about the country before 9/11, even though a number of them were already on terrorist watch lists, or were being closely monitored by programs like Able Danger. This point is really hammered home by a document
from the Zacharias Moussaoui trial where there is a listing of real name usages by various hijackers. Among these, which I find quite hilarious, is the fact that Atta's e-mail address was mohamedatta@hotmail.com. Ziad Jarrah likewise used his real name, ziadjarrah@ab.com. This latter e-mail address raises further curious questions: ab.com is the domain for Rockwell Automation, a major U.S. defense contractor. web.archive.org confirms that ab.com has been Rockwell Automation's web domain since at least 1996. You can't just sign up for an address at ab.com like you can with hotmail or yahoo... they only give them out to employees.

Thats a good find.
I definetly find it interesting, just to play devils advocate- the official theorists could say they tried to infiltrate the US defense?


Also I was just thinking- the pdf link u have shows the (alleged) hijackers stayed at motels and went to gyms on particular days (specific dates). Is it not possible to get video tapes of those motels, gyms from those days just to find some clues?

Just a thought.

Here's Ziad Jarrah's ID pic from his gym (courtesy of Cooperative Research)

Why are some of the hijackers mentioned on the passenger and crew lists on 9/11?

Rockwell Automation is not a defense contractor.

you're both right

Rockwell (Rockwell International) is a major defense contractor.
Rockwell Automation is a spinoff of Rockwell, from 2001. (trades as ROK)

Rockwell Internationall bought Allen Bradley (in?? 1998?) and the AB.com domain name signifies Allen Bradley.

http://www.rockwellautomation.com/about_us/history.html

Rockwell International itself no longer exists due to a number of spin-offs and sellings in addition to the spinoff that formed Rockwell Automation. A major sell off took place in 1996 to Boeing. src: http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/1996/n...ase.960801.html

A spin off took place in 1997 forming Meritor. src: http://www.arvinmeritor.com/about/history.asp

Another spin off took place in 1999 forming Conexant. src: http://www.conexant.com/servlets/DownloadN.../03262007-1.pdf page 1, 2nd paragraph

Yet another spin off took place in 2001 forming Rockwell Collins. src: http://www.rockwellcollins.com/about/history/index.html

Also, Rockwell International bought Allen Bradley in 1985. src: http://www.rockwellautomation.com/about_us/history.html

ziadjarrah@ab.com

so Ziad Jarrah had an email address with "allen bradley" domain ab.com -- possibility #1, al quada's people had 'infiltrated' US defense companies and military services

'possibility #2: Defense compaines and military 'infiltrated' alquada.

either way, it is not a coincidence.

pick one!

Do members get e-mail addresses?


PNAC chairity. Bradley Foundation

Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
Type Private charitable foundation
Founded 1985
Headquarters Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Key people Thomas L. Rhodes
Chairman
David V. Uihlein, Jr.
Vice Chairman
Michael W. Grebe
President and CEO
Website bradleyfdn.org

The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, based in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, is a large foundation with about half a billion US dollars in assets. According to the Bradley Foundation 1998 Annual Report, it gives away more than $30 million per year. The Foundation has financed efforts to support federal institutes, publications and school choice and educational projects.
Contents

History

When Rockwell International Corporation bought Allen-Bradley in 1985, a significant portion of the proceeds went into the creation of The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation. The organization was founded in an attempt to preserve and extend the principles and philosophy used by the Bradley brothers.

During their life they were committed to preserving and defending the tradition of free representative government and private enterprise. According to them, "the good society is a free society. The Bradley Foundation is likewise devoted to strengthening American democratic capitalism and the institutions, principles and values that sustain and nurture it."

The foundation supports limited government, conceived of as a dynamic marketplace where economic, intellectual, and cultural activity can flourish. It states that it defends American ideas and institutions. Next to that it recognizes that responsible self government depends on informing citizens and creating a well informed public opinion. The foundation tries to accomplish that by financing scholarly studies and academic achievements. [2]

The Bradley Foundation's former president, Michael S. Joyce, was instrumental in creating the Philanthropy Roundtable. The goal of the Roundtable's founders was to provide a forum where donors could discuss the principles and practices that inform the best of America's charitable tradition. Currently, there are more than 600 Roundtable Associates.

In the early 1990s the foundation helped support The American Spectator, which at the time was researching damaging material on President Bill Clinton. In the March 1992 issue of the magazine, David Brock called Anita Hill "a bit nutty and a bit slutty", and in January, 1994, it published Brock's article regarding Troopergate and Clinton's alleged extramarital affairs. David Brock later recanted both articles.

The Bradley Foundation has provided funding for the Project for a New American Century (PNAC). PNAC brought together prominent members of the (George W) Bush Administration (Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz) in the late 1990s to articulate their neoconservative foreign policy, including sending a letter to President Bill Clinton urging him to invade Iraq.

Criticism

People for the American Way alleges that the Bradley Foundations under-reports its giving to right-wing organizations. [3]

Between 1985 and 1991, it was one of five foundations to fund the George C. Marshall Institute, a known Global Warming skeptic.

Phil Wilayto, former coordinator of A Job is a Right Campaign in Milwaukee and a contributor to MediaTransparency, a progressive Web site that tracks the funding of right-wing politics, writes:

The overall objective of the Bradley Foundation, however, is to return the U.S. -- and the world -- to the days before governments began to regulate Big Business, before corporations were forced to make concessions to an organized labor force. In other words, laissez-faire capitalism: capitalism with the gloves off.

Wilayto also published a 140-page report on the Bradley Foundation, The Feeding Trough, on behalf of the "A Job is a Right Campaign" in Milwaukee. The report claims the Bradley Foundation commissioned the studies that supported the welfare reform legislation in Wisconsin, which he contends harmed the state's poor residents. He also claimed the Bradley Foundation exploits Milwaukee's black community.

Governance

Current members of the board of directors of the Bradley Foundation are: William Armstrong, Reed Coleman, Terry Considine, Pierre du Pont, Michael Grebe, Thomas Smallwood, Bob Smith, and David Uihlein.

Past and present grantees

List of grants and cumulative amounts given from 1985-2002 [4].

National organizations

These are a few of the many donations that have been granted by the Foundation.

Over $10 million

* Alliance Defense Fund
* American Enterprise Institute
* Heritage Foundation, for support to the Domestic Studies Policy Program and Bradley Resident Fellows Program.Project on Federalism and the states: $853,125 [5]

Over $5 million

* Freedom House, to support Freedom in the World Survey.[6]
* National Affairs, to support publication of The Public Interest and The National Interest: $350.000. [7]

Over $2 million

* Federalist Society, Los Angeles, California, To support general operations: $568,750. [8]
* David Horowitz Freedom Center

Over $1 million

* Brookings Institution
* Intercollegiate Studies Institute, Wilmington, Delaware, to support general operations: $90,000. [9]
* Institute for American Values, New York, New York, To support general program activities: $100,000. [10]
* Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace
* Institute for Educational Advancement, Washington, D.C., to support general operations: $180.000. [11]
* Institute for Justice

Over $500,000

* Black Alliance for Educational Options, Washington, DC, to support general operations: $200,000. [12]
* American Spectator Educational Foundation

Over $100,000

* Foundation for Education Reform and Accountability
* Foundation for Individual Rights in Education
* Heartland Institute, Chicago, Illinois, To support School Reform News and a Chicago-specific school choice initiative: $50.000. [13]
* Third Way Foundation (see Third way)
* Progressive Foundation (see Democratic Leadership Council)
* University of Washington, Seattle, Washington, To support the Center on Reinventing Public Education’s project “Doing Choice Right”: $170.000. [14]
* Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School and the Stanford Center for Internet & Society at Stanford Law School for the Net Dialogue project [15]

$100,000

* Middle East Media Research Institute

Less than $100,000

* Children First America
* Council for the Spanish Speaking, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, to support the Summer Youth Program $5,000. [16]
* Potomac Foundation

Unknown

* Center for Education Reform
* Child Abuse Prevention Fund
* Corporation for National and Community Service
* Thomas B. Fordham Institute
* Middle East Media Research Institute
* Cato Institute
* Citizens for a Sound Economy
* Institute on Religion and Democracy
* Committee for Peace and Security in the Gulf
* Committee for the Free World
* Alexis de Tocqueville Institution
* Institute for Humane Studies
* New Citizenship Project
* Project for the New American Century
* Middle East Forum

Local charities

Over $5 million

* Wisconsin Policy Research Institute
* Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra

Over $1 million

* Madison Center for Educational Affairs (the result of a 1990 merger between the Institute For Educational Affairs and the Madison Center)[1]

Over $500,000

* Milwaukee Public Library Foundation

Over $100,000

* Hunger Task Force of Milwaukee
* Wisconsin Historical Foundation

Unknown amount

* Association of Midwest Museums
* Epilepsy Association of Southwest Wisconsin
* Milwaukee Youth Symphony Orchestra
* Milwaukee Public Museum

Public officials

* Jeane J. Kirkpatrick
* Jack Kemp
* William J. Bennett

Jurists

* Robert H. Bork
* Antonin Scalia

Writers

* Marvin Olasky
* David Brock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Foundation


Rockwell International

Rockwell International was the ultimate incarnation of a series of companies under the sphere of influence of Willard Rockwell, who had made his fortune after the invention and successful launch of a new bearing system for truck axles in 1919.

Primary among the constituents of the final company were the Rockwell Spring and Axle Company (itself a merger of a number of automotive suppliers), which formed into Rockwell-Standard, then merged with North American Aviation to form North American Rockwell in 1967. They then purchased or merged with Miehle-Goss-Dexter, the largest supplier of printing presses, and Collins Radio, a major avionics supplier. Finally they merged with Rockwell Manufacturing, run by Willard Rockwell Jr., and formed Rockwell International in 1973.

In this time the various companies in the empire list a huge number of firsts. North American was responsible for the famous WWII P-51 Mustang fighter and Korean War-era F-86 Sabre, as well as the Apollo spacecraft. Once under the Rockwell banner they continued on to build the B-1 Lancer bomber, the Space Shuttle, (started while they were still North American) and most of the Navstar Global Positioning System satellites. Rocketdyne, who had been spun off by North American in 1955 was re-merged in 1984, and by this point produced most of the rocket engines used in the US. Rockwell also took over and manufactured the light business aircraft previously known as Aero Commanders, then introduced their own new design as the Rockwell Commander 112 and 114.

North American had developed a desktop calculator based on a MOSFET chip for use by its legions of engineers. In 1967 Rockwell set up their own manufacturing plant to produce them, starting what would become Rockwell Semiconductor. One of their major successes came in the early 1990s when they introduced the first low-cost 14.4 kbit/s modem chip set, which was used in a huge number of modems.

Collins Radios were fitted to 80% of the free world's airliners. They designed and built the radios that communicated the Apollo moon landings and the high frequency radio network that allows worldwide communication with US military aircraft. Rockwell designed and built the third stage of the Minuteman Intercontinental ballistic missile, (ICBM) and the AIRS inertial guidance system (INS) that provided its navigation. They also built inertial navigation systems for the Fleet Ballistic Missile submarines.

Rockwell's manufacturing was likewise strong and built most of the heavy duty truck axles in the US.

With the death of Willard Rockwell in 1978 and the stepping down of Willard Rockwell Jr. in 1979, the company started a long series of spin-offs. The company sold the most of its defense and all of its space business to Boeing Integrated Defense Systems, including Rocketdyne in December, 1996. The company began to spin off its semiconductor manufacturing as Conexant, additionally spinning-off the automotive and truck business as Meritor, which then merged with Arvin Industries to form Arvin Meritor; the remainder of the company finally split into two totally separate companies: Rockwell Collins, (COL), and Rockwell Automation, (ROK). As such, Rockwell International no longer exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_Inte...nal_Corporation

awesome, MyNameIs...

so, once again, the question is asked

How did Ziad Jarrah, alleged hijacker/pilot/sworn enemy of the US, obtain and use an email address belonging to a domain of a defense industry company, under Rockwell?