Another Computer animated video that proves....nothing.
We want the real thing, why do people go through great lengths to create state of the art computer graphics when they know it's not gonna prove anything? I believe a camera, live and direct, computers are not to be trusted with this kind of stuff.

Watch it:


http://i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=18329


Thoughts??

Hi Fernie:

Yes. You are looking at a perfect example of Loyal Bushie “Inside Job” Disinformation and Propaganda with no basis in reality whatsoever.



Here we are just minutes after the attacks and the Wedge One E-Ring wall remains standing. The very first thing to notice is the giant cable spools littering the Pentagon lawn directly in front of the 18-feet 3-inch Entry Hole directly over the spool lying down on its side. We have two windows missing from the second floor between Column Line (CL) 13 and 15 where the largest fire is burning away directly over the mentioned cable spool. Run your eyes over to the two windows over the three standing spools and note the fire inside telling us the second-story slab also remains intact. Then realize the fantasy Jetliner did not even break a window on the third floor ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...mpact_scale.jpg ). The distance from the still-intact second floor slab down to the tops of our cable spools is ONLY SEVEN FEET. :0) And yet, the authors of the Loyal Bushie simulation video want to delude you into believing an almost 50-feet tall 100-Ton Jetliner ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/boeing2.jpg ) just sailed right through here going over 500 miles per hour (heh) to slide under the second-story concrete slab without even touching these spools. :0) The most amazing part of the Official Cover Story LIE is your 100-Ton Jetliner simply vanishes into thin air! Look on the Pentagon lawn for even one piece of paper. :0) Many people are deluded into believing their 100-Ton Jetliner simply vaporized into nothingness, as if kerosene (jet fuel is only kerosene) can melt and then vaporize 60 tons of high grade aluminum before the Jetliner even impacts this wall. The foolishness of that theory is seen in this close up photograph:



Look carefully at the standing cable spools to realize the black plastic covering is not even melted. :0) You can see Column #18 remains intact and the building debris has been thrown ‘out’ of the Pentagon to pile up between the wall and these cable spools. If you look carefully inside my white circle, you will see the silhouette outline of Column #17 also very much intact. What many believe are broken columns (left of circle) are actually courses of masonry limestone previously setting on angle irons above the openings detached from the wall and seen like dangling arms. What you are really looking at is the aftermath of a Tomahawk Missile Strike.



This diagram has been updated, so be sure to hit the ‘Refresh’ button if your internet cache has not been recently cleaned. A good description of the dimensional extrapolation procedure appears in this post ( http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...0#entry14626704 ). The evidence proves beyond all doubt that the actual flying object in the security images has a diameter no greater than two feet. The approaching 9:32 AM Tomahawk Missile is on final approach to strike the Wedge One E-Ring wall at CL 14. Some of the best Pentagon Frame commentary available anywhere can be found here: http://www.voltairenet.org/article139203.html#article139203 . There you will find this picture near the middle of the page:



While the author draws the wrong conclusions, his presentation of the ‘evidence’ aspect is actually quite exceptional. The very first thing to realize is the top picture is taken between the 9:31:39 AM initial missile strike at CL 14 and the 9:37 AM A-3 Skywarrior attack between CL 8 and CL 15. Barabara Honegger’s work concludes the 9:32 AM attack created “inside-the-building fires” ( http://blog.lege.net/content/Seven_Hours_in_September.pdf ) only, which you see in the top picture. This marks the moment that all 5 ‘breakaway’ light poles were sent flying through the air from the bow shockwave ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...LloydsShock.jpg ) finding Pole #1 landing on Lloyd’s taxi cab [my notes]. The time is just before 9:32 AM:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78448

Barbara Honegger interviewed Lloyd to include that testimony in her summary report:

http://blog.lege.net/content/Seven_Hours_in_September.pdf

The first picture above shows smoke rising up from the single 18-feet diameter entry hole, because the A-3 Skywarrior has NOT yet struck the Pentagon to become Lloyd’s “BIG BOOM explosion.” Lloyd and his partner never saw the 9:37 AM retrofitted A-3 Skywarrior ( http://web.archive.org/web/20070221061504/...05/318250.shtml ) Jet attack plane ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=schV0rKCRwA ), because they were too occupied with trying to get Lloyd's light pole from out of the taxi windshield from the initial 9:32 AM attack. :0) The funny thing is the ‘two’ attacks finds poor old Lloyd almost killed by the same light pole in two separate incidents just five minutes apart. The ‘second’ Voltaire picture above ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...ate_page4-2.jpg ) with all the fire damage was taken about the same time as this one:

Click here and use zoom >> http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/2.jpg



Our ‘inside-the-building fire’ situation has exploded into a full blown catastrophe with the ‘second’ 9:37 AM A-3 Skywarrior Jet attack, because the plane was packed to the gills with TNT and incendiary charges used to literally ‘blow up’ all the evidence.



The DoD security camera videos captured the 9:31:39 AM ( http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=2480 = 9:32 AM) Tomahawk Missile on final approach to the Wedge One E-Ring wall at the same moment the C-130 Decoy Flyover Plane cast the shadow picked up by the Citgo #7 Security camera ( http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=13548 ). The time stamp says “9:41:37-39,” because this security camera is ‘exactly’ ten minutes fast. Note in the diagram the columns to the ‘right’ of the original Entry Hole (CL 17+18) remain intact from our observations above. However, all of the columns from CL 9 through CL 15 were completely destroyed in the 9:37 AM A-3 Jet attack.



This diagram shows how everything on the first floor from CL 9 to the right has been completely obliterated, as the 9:37 AM A-3 Jet attack was the DoD’s failed attempt to take the E-Ring roof down. If you look over to CL 11, you will see the wall on the other side has dropped about one foot ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/foam1.jpg = look upper left), because this wall has a Control Joint against that column running from the footing all the way to the roof. The DoD plan was to drop the roof at 9:37 AM to simulate a 100-Ton Jetliner crash. However, as you can see, a man could stand atop the SUV and reach up to the height of the second story concrete slab elevation still very much intact. There is simply NO WAY that any 100-Ton Jetliner crashed here, because even though we had two attacks, there is not NEARLY enough damage to justify Jumbo Jetliner crashing anywhere near this location. The two windows by CL 11 and CL 12 are damaged but not even broken. :0)

GL,

Terral

Yes we have seen this piece of garbage. But it proves a lot. It proves a LIE. Unfortunately for the official fantasy, as Avenger has repeatedly pointed out to the OCT faithful and the Star Trek theorist, the very first light pole in the simulation is a LIE because the simulation rightfully shows the pole knocked to the right and in actuality according to the official tale, the #1 light pole ended up on the left hand side of its original position even though supposedly struck by the angled back right wing of the alleged aircraft. When the #1 pole is struck in the simulation, the Lincoln which the pole is officially supposed to strike is still located 100 feet to the north coming down the roadway at 40 to 45 mph towards the alleged 757 aircraft flight path. So how did the right hand angled back wing edge or Captain Kirk's photon torpedo bow shockwave or the full thrust engine blast (the pole is to the right or south of the engine blast) knock the pole 100 feet to the left side or north of the official aircraft? Keeping in mind that this supposedly happens on a gravity world with an atmosphere and not out in a space vacuum with the starship Enterprise, can anyone explain the physics which could cause that to happen? :D

Hi Preston with Fernie quoted and Painter and TerrorCell mentioned:

Calling something or someone a LIE or LIAR is far from speaking the 911Truth. I have had it up to my eyeballs with the PilotsForTruth (PFT) chat-monkeys coming to this fine LC Board and trashing poor old Lloyd the taxi driver one of my star "two attack" witnesses. These PFT zombies must demonize a host of Pentagon witnesses for their absolute nonsense to have any signs of believability. When the PFT explanation in NO WAY begins to match the evidence, they start ax-murdering all the witnesses of any credibility that must start the very moment they open their PFT mouths. These guys are cowards and their bark is even less impressive as their toothless bite. Painter, TerrorCell and this guy here have been emailed and PM’s until my hands are sore with requests to please answer my rebuttals to their NONSENSE, but they run like scared rabbits from a roaring lion. :0) Let’s see if Preston is worth is salt . . .

Pole #1 was never struck by any plane at all, which the “PILOTSforPainter’struth” members have difficulty accepting. The 9:32 AM Decoy Flyover Plane was running diversion for the 9:32 AM Tomahawk Missile Strike, when Pole #1 was uprooted by the bow shockwave described in my post above. Let’s take a look at Pole #1 and you will see why these guys haven’t a clue. :0)

http://www.pentagonresearch.com/lamps.html



If Preston’s pole was hit by an aircraft going 533 miles per hour, then please explain why the entire length is clean and with hardly a scratch? Preston wants everyone to believe Lloyd and his DoD ‘inside job’ operatives conspired and work together to stage this ‘Pole Photo Op.’ :0) Is that a gas or what? If you clicked on the link to my post above, you read my explanation saying ,

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...0#entry14626704

A series of 3000 to 4000 pound missiles can fly this same flight patch and we could be looking at different results each and every time. This missile made a 270 degree descending turn from the north ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...3/017-large.jpg ) to loop around and make an attack run splitting the Navy Annex Building and the Interstate. The Navy Annex Building sits at 150 feet elevation (Google Earth) and the land slopes down to 115 feet at the interstate. However, the Pentagon is situated far lower at around 30 feet. The ground elevation under the Route 27 overpass is only 40 feet, so the Missile was following a downward negative descent trajectory heading making this final approach. However, the missile approached the overpass and altered course to fly ‘above’ the overpass from a ‘lower’ elevation, which caused the bow shockwave around the nose to alter its stable integrity configuration. In other words, the missile altered course from a ‘downward’ descent to climb vertically, when the bow shockwave contacted and ‘snapped’ the four couplings on the ‘breakaway’ light pole. Pole #1 was simply tossed up and caught up the massive wake of the then-rising Tomahawk Missile and twirled like a cheerleader’s baton propelled ‘north’ (left) instead of ‘south’ right. From there the missile continued across the Route 27 overpass to the resume a downward descent towards Column Line 14 of the Wedge One E-Ring wall. The reason ‘almost’ nobody can provide the ‘right’ explanation for what really happened (even Lloyd) is because they still cannot see the 911Truth that all these light poles were taken down by the bow shockwave of an approaching missile.



This is the part of my commentary that proves my PFT debating opponents DEAD WRONG and reveals the 911Truth that all of them combined haven’t a clue. If you will take a closer look at the light pole, you will see the base plate is still attached on the ‘right’ side as the pole was standing next to the road way and we stand beside it. Just look at the picture again and try to imagine yourself standing on the ‘left’ side, so both you and the pole are looking out across Route 27 towards the Pentagon. Now look down at the broken base plate and note the ‘right’ side is still attached. When force is applied to these ‘breakaway’ poles, the base plate is broken off on the side ‘opposite’ the force side, as the pole leans 'away' and the force side is lifted up to spare the base plate on that side. This means the Missile took a flight path on the ‘right’ (south) side on approach to throw the pole to the ‘left’ (north), which is exactly where the pole struck Lloyd’s taxi. :0) Nobody on earth can determine precisely how the pole will land, because that can be flat on one side or one end can strike the ground and the pole tumble end-to-end for some great distance. However, to demonize the poor old 69-year old taxi driver of 40 years over the randomness of probability related to these circumstances is testimony to the foolishness of deluded men. Lloyd is a 9/11 Pentagon “Survivor,” as this pole almost killed him at the 9:31:39 AM missile strike AND again when the thing fell on him at the 9:37 AM “Big Boom” A-3 Skywarrior Jet plane attack. The only people being tricked here are the chat-monkey PFT TV ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...bleEvidence.jpg ) zombies that cannot fit their behinds on a Tomahawk Missile, so they must collectively demonize Lloyd and his corroborating witnesses (Steven McGraw) for their “Lloyd is an inside job terrorist” fantasies to appear true.

This is the part that gets me about these PFT chat-monkeys: Instead of offering testimony based upon ‘the evidence,’ they ask you questions and pretend that explains it all. In other words, since almost nobody here has heard the missile thesis ‘bow shockwave’ arguments, and nobody has even thought to draw connections to ‘which side’ of the base plate is broken, revealing the force side, then Preston starts rambling about star trek and other foolishness like that really means something. This guy could not write an essay of commentary on ANY 911Truth topic to save his soul and he very well knows it. The PFT TV Fantasy train to nowhere has a few ‘unsupported’ theories they pass around like women’s peach cobbler recipes and the rest of us must suffer through their pathetic "I believe" nonsense.

I apologize to our readers for being a tough on these PFT clowns, but Painter took it upon himself to move my threads into his garbage can ( http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Trut...hp?showforum=42 ) rather than write one rebuttal to anything. My Pentagon Timeline Thread over there has no replies and 32 reads. :0) God hates a coward (Rev. 21:8) and I cannot tolerate a 911Truth Admin misusing his authority to conceal the 911Truth under the cover of his darkness and unrighteousness. At least the JREF juvenile delinquents write two and three sentence drivel, before they start moving my threads into their garbage can . . . If Preston would open his eyes, then he would see the base plate is broken on the ‘right’ side as it stood along the roadway, as we face the Pentagon, and not the left.

That’s it? Heh . . . And this is supposed to be Preston’s “Pole #1 Explanation” . . . At least he knows the name of one space ship on the PFT TV. :0)

GL,

Terral

On how many forums do you spam your theories there Terral?

I google bow shock wave and tomahawk missile and all I get are your forum posts at like five or six forums.

You sure you are not Celtic Patriot?

He's very proud of his spam too.

I have seen numerous posts of his where he specifically boasts something to the effect of, "I have 6 of the 8 top threads in this forum!"

Very sad. Very little man.

He almosts makes me miss Lyte and Merc.

And you know that with those search terms, you're going to find only his posts, because no one else in the world is dumb enough to think that a sub-sonic Tomahawk missile would cause a bow shock.

It keeps my scroll-roller thing active enough.

Two idiotic PMs and your hands are sore? Your gibberish isn't even worth reading anymore. Go bother somebody else. :D

Hi Preston with Painter and TerrorCell mentioned:

Email and PM’s have been sent to Painter, Preston and TerrorCell and nobody has a single reply to ANYTHING. The combined intellect of PFT TV says, “Go bother somebody else.,” because your cohorts have NO REPLY AT ALL. Preston is the one filling these threads with gibberish and everyone here knows it. He has far more ridiculous “FBI???” and “Pole Photo Op???” questions than answers about anything. However, my supported arguments continue to withstand the test of debate, because the 911Truth does indeed match the thesis statements, claims, evidence and conclusions of all my thesis papers.

While I would love to quote Preston from explanations about his theories, once again we see three sentences from a guy without a clue. Preston thinks demonizing poor Lloyd the 69 year old taxi driver helps his NONSENSE. Now head back up there and try to ‘quote >>’ me and prove ONE THING wrong using whatever you consider credible evidence. This side of the debate is not holding his breath. The other whiners writing two-sentence drivel on this thread cannot ‘quote me >>’ to show one error either, because they also have no theories supported by the evidence. My view of the PFT TV charade ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...bleEvidence.jpg ) obviously needs expansion to include a few more chat-monkeys just like you . . .

GL,

Terral

Terral

Please stop posting your Pentagon theories, until you can prove everything you have been asked so politely time and time again.

Your ignorance of all questions indicates you cannot prove anything. Hence you are speculating. This debate is not the place of speculation. Please understand.

You repeat on many occasions - attack the theory not the theorist. Your theory has been attacked and you ignore every question. You refused to address issues of your theory.

Your Pentagon theories will be ignored until you can prove your theories.

Repeat posting and linking to photographs does nothing to help. We need calculations!!

Thank you

Terral how many times, in how many threads are we going to see the same thing posted along with the same images?? It's called spamming. Next time the post will be removed and a suspension of 7 days will be given.

Hi IVXX:

No sir. It is called speaking the 911Truth for which my debating adversaries including IVXX has no reply. Since no rebuttals are in the making, then I must assume we are in complete agreement. The fact is that you are tired of seeing such lopsided one-sided debates. :0) Please advise my debating adversaries to stop asking the same redundant and ridiculous questions, so this side of the debate is not required to continue repeating himself. Thanks a bunch,

GL,

Terral

whoa, wait a tic -- back up that film

if you look closely at pole #3, it appears indicated that the pole is separate from the base at the top bolted section.

The base, which is the part of the apparatus designed to shear or break upon a relatively modest impact, remains attached to the ground.

Why such different failures at the base-area of the 5 different light poles affected?>

No. It's called spamming. If you feel this is a one-sided debate and people are asking redundant and ridiculous questions, why are you wasting your time replying?? Cease the spamming now.

pole #3 is the one that supposedly was hit by an engine instead of a wing.. (Different height, angles, ec..) You can see how that could be provided to you as a reasonable form of answer.

But I'm not sure its concrete enough to fit the Pentagon Attack "explained" bill.
Some people prefer to believe the lightpoles popped out of the ground, each in an unique manner, or that the fine poles were switched with damaged ones for no reason by truly sick bastards...

I mean instead of focusing on lightpoles debris shouldnt these idiots plant airplane debris? that woud've been more fitting..