Title: Opposition From Parents
Sureshot - October 2, 2007 10:07 PM (GMT)
So last night, my mom brought up the subject of my newly arrived t-shirts from Conspiracyshirts.com. She began to rant that she didn't like the message portrayed on the shirts, and that it was a bad image.
If your curious, you can the view the designs:
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/y...24_1965_3368943http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/y...24_1965_5587946http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/y...24_1965_5643937Now, as this discussion furthered, my father got involved and it basically boiled down to a debate.
They said I was becoming "radical", and that being radical was a bad thing, and that basically the message was "nobody likes a radical". Second of all, they proclaimed I was getting too involved, I should stop buying my shirts, my DVDs, and my stickers. They also said I was probably getting myself involved in a near cult-like movement.
At the end, my parents then forbidden me from wearing the shirts as seen above, because "people would take it wrong and not know the meaning". My dad was rather puzzled and almost angered at the "freedom is slavery" one because he thought it was a occult symbol or something. He had never heard of 1984, and demanded an explanation for it meant. My mom didn't like the image of the soldiers on two of the shirts.
I was then forbidden to buy anymore shirts (was planning on buying a WeAreChange and LCFC shirt) and that I should direct my interests toward more normal things.
And for comic relief, my dad (making excuses for the collapses of the Twin Towers), said that anything could've happened, and its impossible to ever know. He then points out electrical transformers as the likely cause of both the pre-explosions, and the squibs. He could not explain how these things exploded, nor how they managed to blow up a building.
Has anyone else had this sorta problem? Because, silly as it may sound, hearing this from my parents was a huge blow to me personally because they basically dissed everything I stood for, and almost made me feel ashamed.
I wonder how many other young truthers have went through this. <_<
WallyC - October 2, 2007 11:02 PM (GMT)
My parents dont think its right for me to wear shirts like that in public cause they tihnk it mgiht offend the 9/11 familys. Thats the only reason.
Eckolaker - October 2, 2007 11:22 PM (GMT)
Your parents are trying to protect you. On one hand, they know what happens to people who stand up to the government. I think deep down, they know what the feds will do to you if they really wanted.
The other part of it, is they are simply ignorant or misinformed. What stood out is when they said you were getting involved in a "cult". Where have I heard the cult term used to describe the 9/11 truth movement.
I know! The establishment media, namely Fox news, and the A-holes who like to spew that garbage about us.
It also tells me that we are winning, and that we are getting noticed.
I think the best thing to do is explain to them how much this means to you, and why it is so important for you to be wearing the shirts you wear, and saying the things you say.
I fought a lot with my parents when I was your age, I only wished it was about the same stuff you are fighting about.
In the end, you need to do what is right for you. You parents will not always be there, nor would you want them to be.
My point, you are going to upset some people...We have been lied to for so long the truth seems like the lie. We are so conditioned to think and act a certain way now...you just have to stay strong and remember what your doing all this for.
Good Luck
P.S. While my parents may not agree with everything I tell them, they certainly don't argue with me, because they know I am right. Because they raised me, remember that when you talk to your parents. They raised you to be a good person and know wrong when you see it.
mynameis - October 2, 2007 11:43 PM (GMT)
Keep hitting them with news that's never aired and show it to their face, it will take a while to reverse the brainwashing.
Sureshot - October 2, 2007 11:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (mynameis @ Oct 2 2007, 04:43 PM) |
| Keep hitting them with news that's never aired and show it to their face, it will take a while to reverse the brainwashing. |
That could be counter-productive, may only further they're opinion that I'm "too involved". I used to sorta leave Infowars articles around the house, and my parents would pick them up and read them then confront me on how narrow-minded I was. <_<
mynameis - October 3, 2007 12:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sureshot @ Oct 2 2007, 11:55 PM) |
| QUOTE (mynameis @ Oct 2 2007, 04:43 PM) | | Keep hitting them with news that's never aired and show it to their face, it will take a while to reverse the brainwashing. |
That could be counter-productive, may only further they're opinion that I'm "too involved". I used to sorta leave Infowars articles around the house, and my parents would pick them up and read them then confront me on how narrow-minded I was. <_<
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Use mainstream articles.
thehighwaymanq - October 3, 2007 12:11 AM (GMT)
It doesn't matter if you can destroy your parents in a debate, it's YOUR PARENTS! It's hard gettin censored by your parents, its really sucks.
chucksheen - October 3, 2007 05:08 AM (GMT)
JointPlays - October 3, 2007 05:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sureshot @ Oct 2 2007, 10:07 PM) |
Has anyone else had this sorta problem? Because, silly as it may sound, hearing this from my parents was a huge blow to me personally because they basically dissed everything I stood for, and almost made me feel ashamed.
I wonder how many other young truthers have went through this. <_< |
I think its a high number.
random kid:
"hey dad, just found something disturbing on the internet"
Dad:
"Oh that, dont go down that road - its ugly. Stay normal"
Happened more than once i think. Its a shame.
Hang in there. They will come around if you keep up with your school and so on. If you dont "flip out" they really cant say that you are "going down a bad road"
jakeb - October 3, 2007 06:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sureshot @ Oct 2 2007, 10:07 PM) |
So last night, my mom brought up the subject of my newly arrived t-shirts from Conspiracyshirts.com. She began to rant that she didn't like the message portrayed on the shirts, and that it was a bad image.
If your curious, you can the view the designs: http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/y...24_1965_3368943 http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/y...24_1965_5587946 http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/y...24_1965_5643937
Now, as this discussion furthered, my father got involved and it basically boiled down to a debate.
They said I was becoming "radical", and that being radical was a bad thing, and that basically the message was "nobody likes a radical". Second of all, they proclaimed I was getting too involved, I should stop buying my shirts, my DVDs, and my stickers. They also said I was probably getting myself involved in a near cult-like movement.
At the end, my parents then forbidden me from wearing the shirts as seen above, because "people would take it wrong and not know the meaning". My dad was rather puzzled and almost angered at the "freedom is slavery" one because he thought it was a occult symbol or something. He had never heard of 1984, and demanded an explanation for it meant. My mom didn't like the image of the soldiers on two of the shirts.
I was then forbidden to buy anymore shirts (was planning on buying a WeAreChange and LCFC shirt) and that I should direct my interests toward more normal things.
And for comic relief, my dad (making excuses for the collapses of the Twin Towers), said that anything could've happened, and its impossible to ever know. He then points out electrical transformers as the likely cause of both the pre-explosions, and the squibs. He could not explain how these things exploded, nor how they managed to blow up a building.
Has anyone else had this sorta problem? Because, silly as it may sound, hearing this from my parents was a huge blow to me personally because they basically dissed everything I stood for, and almost made me feel ashamed.
I wonder how many other young truthers have went through this. <_< |
Your parents are going to see things differently than you, and are doing what they believe is best for you. Assuming they are OTers, they likely think that you're wasting your time/money/etc.
seek_the_truth - October 3, 2007 08:39 PM (GMT)
Wow, I've yet to start wearing anything 911, and wonder what my parents reactions would be. I personally don't care about the image I portrait to people anymore. Considering you to be in a cult...? I was in one for the last 7 years of my life and didn't even realize it till now, and the truth movment is definitely not a cult, nor does it show characteristics of one. You being called a radical is strange aswell, I guess being a patriot and defending your constitutional rights now days is pretty radical.
Its hard to say, they are your parents. When people try to even debate me, thell call out LC and say all the facts are totally wrong, once you asked them based on what can you make that conclusion, they are totally confused.
Its all up to you, but try to stay on terms best you can with parents...
Rossmancer - October 4, 2007 02:06 AM (GMT)
I want the freedom is slavery shirt, cause I like my george orwell. You can tell them that freedom is slavery is a famous quote taken from the novel 1984, which is taught to schools all over.
jakeb - October 4, 2007 03:27 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (seek_the_truth @ Oct 3 2007, 08:39 PM) |
| Considering you to be in a cult...? I was in one for the last 7 years of my life and didn't even realize it till now, and the truth movment is definitely not a cult, nor does it show characteristics of one. |
2 questions (not meant to be an attack, I'm just curious)
1 - If you were in a cult for 7 years, how is it that you didn't realize it until now?
2 - What cult was it?
mynameis - October 4, 2007 05:30 PM (GMT)
A cult requires you to be brainwashed into anything. We aren't brainwashing anybody. Maybe Randi and Friends have brainwashed you?
jakeb - October 4, 2007 06:00 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (mynameis @ Oct 4 2007, 05:30 PM) |
| A cult requires you to be brainwashed into anything. We aren't brainwashing anybody. Maybe Randi and Friends have brainwashed you? |
Cults do not require brainwashing, though it is common. I suggest you do some more research.
stopsnitchin - October 5, 2007 11:03 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sureshot @ Oct 2 2007, 10:07 PM) |
Has anyone else had this sorta problem? Because, silly as it may sound, hearing this from my parents was a huge blow to me personally because they basically dissed everything I stood for, and almost made me feel ashamed.
I wonder how many other young truthers have went through this. <_< |
Both of my parents believe 9/11 was an inside job, my Dad used to really support deomcrats and all that bullshit and he thought it was right, now he's registering republican for Ron Paul. Plus he always has me burn Loose Change/Martial Law/Zeitgiest and he gives them out all the time.
It just depends how open minded your parents are.
System Of A Down - October 6, 2007 01:27 AM (GMT)
move out asap
or get used to it and shush like a good amerikan
there is no other way
mynameis - October 6, 2007 07:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (jakeb @ Oct 4 2007, 06:00 PM) |
| QUOTE (mynameis @ Oct 4 2007, 05:30 PM) | | A cult requires you to be brainwashed into anything. We aren't brainwashing anybody. Maybe Randi and Friends have brainwashed you? |
Cults do not require brainwashing, though it is common. I suggest you do some more research.
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I know all about randi's cult, and I have done my research, and yes they require brainwashing.
Sureshot - October 6, 2007 03:56 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the replies. Some of my relatives are actually on my side, and have offered to have my stuff delivered to their houses. Good news at least. :D
joe911 - October 7, 2007 09:13 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sureshot @ Oct 6 2007, 03:56 PM) |
| Thanks for the replies. Some of my relatives are actually on my side, and have offered to have my stuff delivered to their houses. Good news at least. :D |
I just tell the relatives who dont like what i do that "Theres notning wrong with been aware of whats going in the world"