Aman Zafer took a series of pictures of the WTC after the 2nd Tower was hit. The original hi-res images can be found on his website: http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/index.shtm

The only thing I've done to the images is to crop them, in order to focus on what was happening to WTC 7 before the Towers collapsed.

For reference, here's a pic from some time before 9/11. In the before pictures, you can see that some of the offices, on some of the floors, have their overhead lights on. If you look at the lower floors, from around the 7th floor down there are very few lights on. Some of the floors below the 7th had louvers instead of windows, so I would expect those floors to be dark normally.




The picture below was taken shortly after the 2nd Tower was hit. See the bright white light around the middle of the 7th(?) floor? Also note the bright lights up in the Penthouse. Also, none of the other floors are lit in WTC 7 at this point, even though in the pics from before there are lights on, in numerous places in WTC 7 and in a random pattern.



Watch that area change in the next couple of pictures.


It gets brighter...




and brighter...




and brighter...




Until the collapse of WTC 2, when the smoke and haze start to obscure the building.




So what was going on in WTC 7 BEFORE the first Tower collapsed?

Why would fires break out in WTC 7 BEFORE the building was damaged?

Was this the start of the prep to bring down the building?

Ha, just noticed that WTC buidling was either blown up or on fire look at picutre 3 or WTC 2 of 5. Follow along the right side of the WTC 1 and see almost in the middle theres a puf of white smoke.

If this would be fire, I'd assume to see some smoke.

One might argue that the windows were closed, but then the fires could not have originated from floors 5-7, as they didn't have windows but louvers.

And to see the fire through these louvers would only be possible, if they were open. If they were open, then we would see smoke coming from it.

So if these lights are fire-caused, then not on floors 5-7.

If these lights are fire-caused then it had to be floors with windows.
If so, the windows were not broken, as then smoke would have emerged from there (though hard to tell regarding the quality of the pics., i.e. there might be some smoke we could not see).

If the windows were not broken, but this was a fire, then the fire could not have burned very hot, and would not have enough oxygen for burning very long.

But I'm not saying that this couldn't have been fires, just it's not floors 5-7 (because, again, of the not observable smoke).

However, interesting that the lights get brighter, spreaded over a greater area. This is quiet remarkable even if not fire. Building 7 was evacuated after the first plane hit, and almost done/in progress when the second hit.
The only floors not evacuated then, but shortly after that, was OEM's EOC on 23rd floor.

Strange indeed, good observation.

My 2 cents....


ps. the last picture shows WTC 1 'collapsing', not WTC 2

Good call on the image.

I meant to use this one:

WTC 2 Collapse




WTC 1 Collapse



The contrast is interesting. The lights or fires continued even while WTC 2 was collapsing, but once the smoke clears they disappear.

The lack of smoke could be because these 'fires' were in the core and the smoke if there was any could have been blowing in a different direction. There are fire like that in the Towers too. The smoke tends to pour out of the the floors above, rather then then floor that's actually on fire.

For example, there a large fire across one entire floor in WTC 1. However, very little smoke is coming out of that floor. It's mostly coming out of the roof and the floors above. Also, the 'fires' in WTC 7 that we are looking at appear to be much smaller, so there would be less smoke.

Speculation:

1. Could these 'fires' be thermite burning? Could explain the lack of smoke.

2. What if WTC 7 was supposed to collapse along with WTC 1? But the dust and debris from the collapse of WTC 2, smothered these 'fires', making the first attempt to CD WTC 7 a dude?

You raise some interesting points DoYouEverWonder

I can see how the original plan may have been for WTC7's collapse to be an intended consequence of the WTC1 collapse.

It would serve to make the 'shock and awe' effect of the collapsing WTC1 all that much more spectacular, while reducing skepticism regarding the legitimacy of WTC7's total destruction.

Since the actual style of collapse of WTC7 at 5:20 p.m. made little sense given it's circumstances at that time, it does make sense that this late 'controlled demolition' was revealing a failure within the masterplan as it pertained to WTC7.

It's likely the WTC7 controlled demolition trigger mechanism failed at 10:28 am and that problem had to be rectified in order to facilitate the successful 5:20 p.m. controlled demolition.

MM

A couple of debunkers cannot find a reason to blow up building 7. And that is more important for them than the physics of the collapse which is 100% consistent with a controlled demolition. But maybe wtc7's demolition should have occured in a totally different way. If that is the case then that might also be good feedback for the debunkers, but I'm sure that the circlejerkers then find another way around.

Here's the last pic of the 'fire' in WTC 7, that I fooled around with the color balances to see what would happen.





This is what happens when you pull out most of the reds and greens. Since these 'fires' get brighter, not duller, this would indicate that what ever is generating this light is very hot and intense.

nice find.

I posted this in another thread, click the video link

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=16453

Another good thread,

*****To me Jennings story is the one that makes the most since. From the start I saw his video as presented by the news and always thought he was in one of the towers. Conveniently edited so anyone who sees it would naturally think he was in tower one or two.

He says there was an explosion on the 8th floor. He also is on video covered with dust talking of a big explosion. Coincidently the fires that were burning throughout the entire floor were on about the 8th floor. If fires were caused by debris that fell during the collapse of the (I can’t find a diagram of the buildings) correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t tower 2 fall 1st and isn’t tower 1 closest to wt7? Keep that in mind. The falling debris would have only damaged the exterior of the north face. Any diesel tanks would be in core of the building no matter what floor they are on. Any falling debris would have to penetrate the corridor walls and in most cases those would have a 2-hour fire rating and all doors would have closers on them. The walls around the diesel tanks I would think were 4-hour walls making them even harder to penetrate.

So the sprinklers should have extinguished any fires started from damage to the north face. It is rumored that the sprinklers were not functioning in any of the buildings. The cell phone calls reported this. I don’t remember anyone ever looking wet or talking about the sprinklers going off. Have any of you ever seen a sprinkler system go off, I have.

The stairways are generally in the core of the buildings, rarely on the exteriors of building as to reserve all window space for offices.

An explosion on the 8th floor igniting a diesel tank and the contents of the floor to burn for hours giving them a plausible reason as to why the building spontaneously collapsed. Looking at the big picture that makes more since to me.

Now of coarse I’m purely speculating here because I don’t know the layout of wt7 or the building codes of NYC or even the location of the stairwell that Jennings was trapped in. These things should be verifiable one way or another. *****

I think those lights are fires and they happened before the collapse of the towers. This is consistent with Jennings account.

I was told by someone who participated in the FEMA collapse study that the only existing building plans for WTC 7 had been stored in on of the Twin Towers.

That's sounds like BS to me.

At the very least a wt7 building engineer and a draftsman could draw up a set basic plans with all the common spaces including stairs, elevators, mechanical rooms with diesel tanks.

The plans are in the FEMA report for WTC 7.

You can find the report at - http://www.wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm

I looked it over I didn't have the time to read it all. Is there something specific I should see?

I did see that a tank was on the 7th floor, That explanes the fires that I beleive were started by the bomb that knocked Jenning back as they were going down the stairs.

Troubling evidence indeed. However, there are enough doubts over Zafar's other images that I need to ask if any other photographers captured these fires? If Zafar's are the only photos showing this, it gets troubling in a different way, since his photo of the SW corner is also the only one showing floors 13-15 intact.
explained here

so if these photos can be verified we have some pretty powerful circumstantial evidence

Clarification for the OP- from Zafar's position you can't see below floor 10 or 11 on WTC 7. WTC 6 / Winter Garden / WFC block the view. As the North tower collapses, the south face of WTC 7 is in full sunlight in contrast to the earlier shots. THis would make any internal lights/fires difficult to see at that time.

Doubts such as what, exactly? Your contention that pic #110 shows floors 13-15 intact?
I'd say that's a misinterpretation of the data personally. Image 1 below: crop of #110; image 2, line extended down from undamaged corner section and damaged area circled image 3 shows how a perspective from approximately the same compass point makes the south side interior columns appear similar to what might seem to be the SW corner of the building.

Thanks for the response, Waterdancer. You're probably right; It all really looks like one smooth flat plane - like an intact wall with perhaps minor damage, as you showed of the upper parts. NIST's seem to show the area gone, not just missing the outermost facing. So I dunno.
I don't see how to resolve the issue clearly, and I don't need to de-rail things, just felt a need to share my thoughts.

Peace all
keep up the good work

In regards to the photos taken by Aman Zafar.

I sent him an email asking him about them. From his response I copied below I would say he in not a truther and there for it is unlikely that he would have altered his photos to promote CTs. Also he changed his web page stating his position on CTs http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/index.shtm


I must be a simpleton. To simple for the critics on this forum. I thought I made a valid argument. Those lights sure look too bright to be normal lighting from within wt7. I’m trying to determine which face we are looking at (I’m thinking it must be the north face) and looking at the shadows from the porches on the Jersy, there is no way that that is the reflection from the sun. My orientation may be off.

Two things, if Barry Jennings was in wt7 there is no way he would have stayed in the building after tower 2 collapsed and there is no way any damage to wt7 that Barry spoke could have been from tower 2.

So in my mind Barry’s story of bombs going off on the 7-8th floor before either tower fell is by the most logical explanation I can think of and if that’s true we have a conspiracy and it must involve our government.




From: Aman Zafar [mailto:aman@amanzafar.com]
Sent: October 4, 2007 1:05 PM

Subject: RE: like your work

Sorry, but I am not a believer in any of the conspiracy stuff. All the pictures were taken by me and are my copyright.

Take care.

this is the south face. Which is what I thought it should be. For some reason I thought the damage was said to be on the north face.