Title: Landing Gear Vs Paper
Description: which one wins
Description: which one wins
thehighwaymanq - September 22, 2007 05:06 PM (GMT)
spacecadet - September 22, 2007 05:09 PM (GMT)
If you drop the two items of the top of a tall building which would you expect to be less damaged?
Explain why. :)
Explain why. :)
thehighwaymanq - September 22, 2007 05:11 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (spacecadet @ Sep 22 2007, 01:09 PM) |
| If you drop the two items of the top of a tall building which would you expect to be less damaged? Explain why. :) |
It doesn't work for paper, it would like float down. It wouldn't freefall. Go to the top of your stairs and do it. It's the same for a leaf/feather.
spacecadet - September 22, 2007 05:14 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (thehighwaymanq @ Sep 22 2007, 12:11 PM) | ||
It doesn't work for paper, it would like float down. It wouldn't freefall. Go to the top of your stairs and do it. It's the same for a leaf/feather. |
Thats right. :)
Thats how the driving licence and various other light items survived the impact.
stopsnitchin - September 22, 2007 05:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (spacecadet @ Sep 22 2007, 05:14 PM) | ||||
Thats right. :) Thats how the driving licence and various other light items survived the impact. |
But the fire would quickly destroy it...
spacecadet - September 22, 2007 05:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (stopsnitchin @ Sep 22 2007, 12:17 PM) | ||||||
But the fire would quickly destroy it... |
That would depend on how long it spent in the flames.
As has been suggested before on here, try passing your finger through a candle flame quickly, then try it slower, notice the difference?
Then try to think how quickly that driving licence was moving.
thehighwaymanq - September 22, 2007 05:20 PM (GMT)
No, that doesn't make any sense. A piece of paper can not survive a 500 MPH impact along with fireball/explosion and resulting fires. And how did that survive when mostly all the plane was "vaporized'?
spacecadet - September 22, 2007 05:24 PM (GMT)
It was amongst lots of other light debris strewn around ground zero, all intact, what makes this article so special?
tower - September 22, 2007 05:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (spacecadet @ Sep 22 2007, 05:24 PM) |
| It was amongst lots of other light debris strewn around ground zero, all intact, what makes this article so special? |
Just what makes you think a licence missed all the columns, didn't get hit by the fireball and then survived the flight down?
spacecadet - September 22, 2007 05:29 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tower @ Sep 22 2007, 12:26 PM) | ||
Just what makes you think a licence missed all the columns, didn't get hit by the fireball and then survived the flight down? |
Because it is there on the ground along with lots of other items that did exactly that?
System Of A Down - September 22, 2007 05:41 PM (GMT)
fireball pssshh
ive seen bunnies do worse damage
jetfuel!?!?!?!
MEH!
Blowing Air > Jetfuel
paper > Black Boxes
:D B) :D
ive seen bunnies do worse damage
jetfuel!?!?!?!
MEH!
Blowing Air > Jetfuel
paper > Black Boxes
:D B) :D
esopxe - September 22, 2007 06:03 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (spacecadet @ Sep 22 2007, 09:09 AM) |
| If you drop the two items of the top of a tall building which would you expect to be less damaged? Explain why. :) |
Dropping a drivers license from a building isn't a good example because there is no way that it would fall at the rate of 500 MPH.
SPreston - September 23, 2007 02:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (spacecadet) | ||||
QUOTE (spacecadet) Thats right. :) Thats how the driving licence and various other light items survived the impact. That would depend on how long it spent in the flames. As has been suggested before on here, try passing your finger through a candle flame quickly, then try it slower, notice the difference? Then try to think how quickly that driving licence was moving. It was amongst lots of other light debris strewn around ground zero, all intact, what makes this article so special? Because it is there on the ground along with lots of other items that did exactly that? |
Of course! How stupid of us. Alleged hijacker Satam Al Suqami was holding his paper passport out the open cockpit window (assuming of course that a cockpit window will open at 466 mph: doubtful :lol: ) of the allegedly hijacked AA Flight 11 alleged 767 passenger aircraft when his aircraft with 10,000 gallons of jet fuel aboard hit the North Tower at 466 mph and the passport safely floated to the ground unsinged and unburned, to be found by a random passer-by. The paper passport was not illegally planted as evidence by the totally CORRUPT FBI afterall. Makes complete sense now that you have so diligently explained the facts to us. :D
Satam Al Suqami’s remarkably undamaged
passport, marked and wrapped in plastic.
It was shown as evidence in the 2006 Zacarias
Moussaoui trial. [Source: FBI]
| QUOTE (September 12 2001: Hijacker’s Passport Found Near WTC) |
| It is reported that the passport of hijacker Satam Al Suqami has been found a few blocks from the WTC. [ABC News, 9/12/2001; Associated Press, 9/16/2001; ABC News, 9/16/2001] Barry Mawn, the director of the FBI’s New York office, says police and FBI found it during a “grid search” of the area. [CNN, 9/18/2001] However a senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission later claims it was actually discovered by a passerby and given to an NYPD detective, “shortly before the World Trade Center towers collapsed.” [9/11 Commission, 1/26/2004] The Guardian says, “The idea that Mohamed Atta’s passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged [tests] the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI’s crackdown on terrorism.” [Guardian, 3/19/2002] (Note that, as in this Guardian account, the passport is frequently mistakenly referred to as Atta’s passport.) http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context...01passportfound |
SPreston - September 24, 2007 04:25 AM (GMT)
Here are the photos of the passport from the Zacarias Moussaoui trial. (Passport 1) - (Passport 2) Assuming that Satam Al SUQAMI could not get the cockpit window open at 466 mph, we must consider that the fuselage of the alleged 757 was in reality a sealed chamber with Al SUQAMI and his alleged paper passport allegedly inside. Assuming the passport was in his shirt or pants pocket, Al SUQAMI and his passport were just fine until they turned into a bloody paste against the inside of the cockpit and instrument panel as the fuselage disintegrated against one of the heavy structural steel exterior columns or concrete and steel floor sections of the North Tower at 466 mph. But no, the passport was found clean and un-bloodied wasn't it? Thus by some miracle Al SUQAMI and his passport must have somehow made it out of the alleged disintegrated fuselage without harm, and they then had to dodge the interior walls and desks and waste baskets and wilted flower pots and the massive structural steel core columns at a speed slightly reduced from 466 mph. Somewhere along this tortuous and adventuresome pathway, they would have had to deal with the inferno of the exploding jet fuel. Perhaps our magical paper passport slipped out of Al SUQAMI's pocket just before he learned what hitting a computer monitor at 400+ mph felt like, and quickly finding a draft of fresh air, slipped out of a broken window to gracefully float down right in front of a curious passerby down at ground level. Does this admittedly complex scenario sound probable or even possible? Nah!! The paper passport was illegally planted as evidence by the totally CORRUPT FBI afterall. :D
Satam Al Suqami’s remarkably undamaged
passport, marked and wrapped in plastic.
It was shown as evidence in the 2006 Zacarias
Moussaoui trial. [Source: FBI]
Deadly .45 caliber boxcutter used to overcome grown men and pilots and Satam Al SUQAMI
before he met the computer monitor at 400+ mph. Satam are you in there? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Satam Al Suqami’s remarkably undamaged
passport, marked and wrapped in plastic.
It was shown as evidence in the 2006 Zacarias
Moussaoui trial. [Source: FBI]
Deadly .45 caliber boxcutter used to overcome grown men and pilots and Satam Al SUQAMI
before he met the computer monitor at 400+ mph. Satam are you in there? :lol: :lol: :lol: