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Title: Zeitgeist
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Remian - September 13, 2007 08:11 PM (GMT)
A lot of people have become interested in the 9-11 Truth movement, but they only see that the US government is trying to get money. Thats not the story at all. In fact, 9-11 is just another stage in a plan that has been going on for over 60 years, all for the ultimate final goal. What is this goal you may ask?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331

Watch this movie and you will know the full story of 9-11...no...you'll know the full story of modern society. This movie -- at least to me -- was twice as eye opening as Loose Change and any other 9-11 movie. This movie SCARED me. This movie compels me to no end to take some sort of action, and this movie will probably push you too. I hope to see new topics arriving when this movie becomes as mainstream as Loose Change has.

Anyways, watch click the link above to watch the greatest 9-11 documentary ever made. Period.

Nyxus - September 14, 2007 05:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Remian @ Sep 13 2007, 03:11 PM)
A lot of people have become interested in the 9-11 Truth movement, but they only see that the US government is trying to get money. Thats not the story at all. In fact, 9-11 is just another stage in a plan that has been going on for over 60 years, all for the ultimate final goal. What is this goal you may ask?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331

Watch this movie and you will know the full story of 9-11...no...you'll know the full story of modern society. This movie -- at least to me -- was twice as eye opening as Loose Change and any other 9-11 movie. This movie SCARED me. This movie compels me to no end to take some sort of action, and this movie will probably push you too. I hope to see new topics arriving when this movie becomes as mainstream as Loose Change has.

Anyways, watch click the link above to watch the greatest 9-11 documentary ever made. Period.

Oh, that's a documentary? Whoops...I thought it was a comedy. The only thing that was even remotely interesting/informative was the first part about religion. it was all stuff I previously knew, but it was really nice to see it spelled out and clarified a bit more.

Everything else was just LoL funny to me.

RevolutionJim - September 14, 2007 06:24 AM (GMT)
There is a false religious system in Rome that in the past has been responsible for many wars, revolutions, Inquisitions, crusades, as well as banning the Most Holy Bible, creating the Illuminati and most secret societies that have plagued the world today with atheistic communism. As well this beast system in Rome is responsible for the pagan ideation of atheism thru their United Nations/UNESCO, Rockefeller funded Findhorn Foundation and Lucis Trust Theosophy Society.
http://www.lucistrust.org
http://www.findhorn.org/about_us/display_new.php

"The Findhorn Foundation has been collaborating with different UN departments, conferences and agencies since 1992 and is registered as an associate member of UNED-UK (UN Environmental and Development-UK Committee) and as a member of UNESCO's Planet Society Network."
http://www.seekgod.ca/education.htm

The allegations made in Zeitgeist, The Movie have been thoroughly discredited. Contrary to what you've been told, these are not new or suppressed ideas, but are based on ideas from outdated scholarship that became popular among skepdics in the latter part of the 19th century.

While these theories have been long discredited by scholars (believers and non-believers alike) they have made a reappearance on the internet by people with an ax to grind along the likes of Achayra S & a few others who try and pass themselves off as experts.

Most of their so called proof is based on half truth, distorted truth and in some cases outright lies. Fortunately, there is extensive apologetics also available on the web that debunks these falsehoods using well researched, footnoted and sourced references that anyone can verify for themselves.

Chrisitanity is the most well documented movement in history. Orthodox Christianity has remained unchanged since the risen Christ appeared to his dicisples. What has come to be known as the bible, the cannonized books were approved writings dating back to the first centruty. Constatine did not have any influence over doctrine or theology. By the time of the council of Nicea, sound Christian doctrine had already been established for more than 300 years. The council of Nicea (like all other councils) was called in response to heresy which was a problem Paul frequently addressed in his letters that make up a large portion of the NT.

Below are just few of the articles that debunk some of the people who run web sites promoting these theories.

Errors of The Jesus Myth
http://www.christiancadre.org/Answers.html#myth
Earl Doherty, the Jesus Myth, and Second Century Christian Writings
http://members.optusnet.com.au/gakuseidon/...2ndC_Review.htm
Earl Doherty. The Jesus Puzzle. A Critique
http://tektonics.org/doherty/dohertyhub.html

THE HISTORICAL JESUS

http://www.christiancadre.org/topics/historicaljesus.html

The Historicity of Jesus: Overviews and Defenses
http://web.archive.org/web/20060221193012/...tml#historicity

Non-Christian References to Jesus
http://web.archive.org/web/20060221193012/...ljesus.html#non

Shattering the Christ-Myth: Secular References to Jesus
http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/jesusexisthub.html

Refuting the Myth That Jesus Never Existed
http://www.bede.org.uk/jesusmyth.htm

A Refutation of Archary S's Book "The Christ Conspiracy": Pt 1
http://www.answeringinfidels.com/answering...iracy-pt-1.html
Pt 2
http://www.answeringinfidels.com/answering...iracy-pt-2.html

Alleged parallels between Christianity and pagan religions
http://www.bede.org.uk/frazer.htm

Mystery Religions and Early Christianity
http://www.frontline-apologetics.com/myste...hristianity.htm

Mithraism_ Not an influence on Christianity
http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/mithra.html

Confronting the Copycat Thesis
http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/copycathub.html

Pagan Parallels: Answers to the Copy-Cat Savior Theory
http://web.archive.org/web/20060221193012/...esus.html#pagan

Jesus a copycat myth
http://kingdavid8.com/Copycat/Home.html

And finally, here's a good review of Zeitgest, the movie
A Faith Based on Facts pt 1
http://www.consider.org/News/2007/12.html
pt 2
http://www.consider.org/News/2007/13.html
pt 3
http://www.consider.org/News/2007/14.html

Conspiracycentral - September 21, 2007 03:41 AM (GMT)
One of the best documentaries I have ever seen.

midwestzero - September 22, 2007 05:39 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I agree it's one of the better ones.

System Of A Down - September 26, 2007 03:22 AM (GMT)
not as good as AFTF but not bad

RevolutionJim - September 26, 2007 07:49 PM (GMT)
Even though the Romans destroyed the records, burned the libraries there are still some first and second century historians having access to these records that do make mention of the biblical Jesus and a group of Jew converts to Christianity.
http://www.forerunner.com/blog/2006/12/rea...-1-3-of-10.html

Ultimately Jesus, being God goes with the Word. So saying don't use the bible is not a good debate practice. The bible written in the inspired manner cover to cover proves Jesus was God. Another reason is there were many prophecies fulfilled in the events of the first coming of Jesus. The 70 weeks of Daniel, written hundreds of years before Jesus is a very powerful example to those who have studied it.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/dan927.htm

The 70 weeks of Daniel prophecy:
End Time Delusions Part 2 "Tribulation Delusions"
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?d...623609891975848

The Jesuits would have us believe there is a seven year tribulation period. This seven years was taken from the last week of the seventy weeks, removed with a 2000 year gap. The seventy weeks were fulfilled in Jesus. Amen

Jonno129 - September 28, 2007 12:16 AM (GMT)
All I can say is that this movie is amazing. But the guy who reviewed that movie could only put his points on the First part of the movie. He didn't even talk about the other Two parts. Find me someone who has done a extensive review proving every single fact in that movie wrong and then i'll give up.




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