Greetings to All:

Most everyone is aware of James B. Meigs the ‘editor-in-chief’ of Popular Mechanics (PM = http://www.popularmechanics.com ) Magazine who asked his PM staff to “begin a preliminary investigation” ( http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology...aw/4220721.html ) into “claims made by 9/11 conspiracy theorists in order to decide whether the topic would be appropriate for an article in Popular Mechanics.” Their Original “The Pentagon” Disinformation Article can be read in full here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology...842.html?page=6

Dozens of witnesses saw no 100-ton Jetliner hit the Pentagon on 9/11 or any other day. The Bushie Administration “Opinion Molding” Media Machine used images of the Jetliners striking the Twin Towers to reinforce their Cover Story that Flight 77 also struck the Pentagon. The weakness of the PM article is revealed straight out of the gate with mentions of “conspiracy advocates,” which throws this piece directly into the ‘disinformation’ category. The Official Bushie Administration Cover Story says ‘many’ Bearded Jihadist Radicals carried out these attacks, which places our government and Jim Meigs in the “Conspiracy Theory” business like everybody else. The 911Truthers at http://www.911truth.org and the architects and engineers at http://ae911truth.org simply disagree with Jim Meigs’ identification of the ‘many’ principals involved in the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks against We The People of these United States.

Sit back and ask yourself why Jim Meigs decided to use a distant “three days after 9/11” shot of the Pentagon in his presentation, when we have many pictures taken just minutes after the attack? The PM Editors simply conclude this ‘damage to the Pentagon’ is consistent with a fiery plane crash without even offering up one shred of evidence for Flight 77 crashing ANYWHERE.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pent1/lawndamage.html



The evidence shows a single entry hole with no sign of the two impact craters on either side to accommodate the massive 6-ton Rolls-Royce engines ( http://home.swipnet.se/%7Ew-48037/l1011techsp.htm = 5809 kg ). I encourage you to click “Previous” and “Next” to view all of the 911research pictures and realize a crashed Flight 77 appear in NONE of them.



This schematic shows the actual damage to the West Wedge E-Ring outer wall detailing the 911Truth that only two windows are missing from the second floor. Note the two second story windows to the left of the 20-feet diameter entry hole are not even broken. Then realize the distance from the tops of those cable spools to the bottom of the still-intact second floor is only 7 feet! :0) The firemen appear to be rolling up their hoses, but you can see the fire burning inside the Pentagon. Who commanded these firemen to stop battling the blaze that would eventually get out of control and bring even the roof crashing down about an hour later? There is not even a piece of paper on the Pentagon lawn and no place to hide any 125-feet wide and 155-feet long and almost 50-feet tall 100-ton Jetliner in the standing Pentagon wall.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pent1/spools.html



The arrows in the upper left-hand corner highlight the 20-feet diameter impact crater from the previous schematic photo above. An even closer look shows the 'black plastic insulation covering' very much intact and unburned on the cables, but the fire is raging inside the Pentagon. Note the building debris is thrown outside the Pentagon back in our direction and NOT carried inside by any 100-ton Jetliner going 500 miles per hour. And yet, you see no sign of 60 tons of high grade aluminum, the two 6-ton engines, Jetliner fuselage, massive wing sections, seats, cargo and the almost 50-feet tall tail section anywhere.

Once again the PM Editors are more interested in disproving the claims of others rather than presenting the “911Truth” for what really struck the Pentagon on 9/11. The actual evidence has nothing whatsoever to do with any 75-feet wide entry hole in the E-Ring outer wall, as you have already seen from the images above.



This Disinformation Artistry supports the Official Bush Administration Cover Story purposely exaggerate the size of the ‘first floor’ damage to give their propaganda a higher probability of reader believability.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pent1/composite.html



Look at the evidence very carefully to realize we have no distance above these vehicles, and the cable spools directly behind them in front of the 20-feet diameter hole, for Jim Meigs’ massive 100-ton Jetliner. A man could literally stand atop the SUV shrouded in smoke to reach up and touch the still-intact second floor where only two windows are missing. This damage is consistent with a missile attack, just like Donald Rumsfeld told Parade Magazine on 9/12!

http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%2...-Flight-77.html

The Department of Defense (DoD) is already spouting off Loyal Bushie “War Mongering” Propaganda in the same breath admitting the Pentagon was struck by a ‘missile.’ Where did Osama and his band of Jihadist Radicals gain access to an Enhanced 109-A Tomahawk Missile ( http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=14796 ) that actually struck the Pentagon on 9/11? I encourage everyone at Popular Mechanics to offer rebuttals to my Pentagon explanations from this Loose Change link.

Jim Meigs is running after Thierry Meyssan rather than present one picture of Flight 77 crashed ANYWHERE. The French 911Truther is making a case that perfectly matches the testimony of Donald Rumsfeld AND all of the photographic and video evidence gathered on 9/11. Once again the PM Editors are found giving lip service to the Official Bush/Rove Administration Cover Story, instead of serving We The People in search of the 911Truth. The real “Inside Job” terrorists had the need to make the DoD appear like the ‘victim’ in these attacks to justify their Iraqi War Agenda and illegal ‘War On Terror,’ obtaining Patriot Act powers and justifying the impotent “Department Of Homeland Insecurity” finding 20 million illegal aliens running around too and fro at the very same time. The out-of-control Bush Administration has given away our American Sovereignty by signing their “Security and Prosperity Partnership” ( http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2005/Mar/23-209281.html ) treaty instituting the North American Union of CanAmeriMexico. Mexican trucks are preparing for the next stage of the invasion process of erasing US Sovereignty through the dissolution of our borders. Non-profit groups like NASCO ( http://www.nascocorridor.com ) are bypassing Congressional Oversight and authority by signing up foreign nationals ( http://www.nascocorridor.com/pages/contact/contact.htm ) for authorization to breach our borders and use our US Interstate System part of their North American Super-Highway. The American Middle Class is under siege by Corporate Elites shipping our best jobs overseas and importing cheap illegal alien labor at record pace, as Lawlessness runs rampant from sea to shining sea.

These PM Editors are talking about 8-foot diameter ( http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr68b.html ) exit hole the nose section of the missile created, after passing through the two D-Ring walls. We already bore witness to the fact that a ‘single’ 20-feet diameter entry hole is present in the outer E-Ring West Wedge Wall, which means no 125-feet wide almost 50-feet tall 100-ton Jetliner ever struck the Pentagon. The idea that the landing gear (heh) was somehow detached from the rest of the 100-ton Jetliner AND created this C-Ring hole is nothing more than ridiculous! The actual events leading to the creation of this C-Ring hole go something like this:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...pic=14791&st=50

The Pentagon was not struck by a Boeing 757-200 Jetliner, but an Enhanced 109-A Tomahawk Missile going just about the speed of sound. Look carefully at the trajectory heading:

http://www.pentagonresearch.com/lamps.html



Draw a straight line down the center of the affected poles (in red) and you have the precise flight path of the Tomahawk Missile. The little known fact about flying objects near the speed of sound is they create a ‘bow shockwave’ ( http://www.eng.vt.edu/fluids/msc/gallery/gall.htm ) that transfers force from the engines to the wave extending out in all directions. This particular missile was caught on camera (Frame1 pic in my Pentagon post = http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=14796 ) flying just five feet off the ground, after descending 7000 feet on this circular flight path . . .



. . . to strike the only Wedge of the Pentagon (Wedge One) having the newly installed sprinkler system. Nobody on earth could fly the 100-ton Boeing Pig on this tight circular heading and strike the pre-selected target with precision accuracy, but a Tomahawk Missile can easily be programmed to carry out these maneuvers.



One of these bad boys made the approach at near supersonic speed, until the bow shockwave came in contact with Pole #1. Click on the “Pole 1 Description” ( http://www.pentagonresearch.com/lamps.html ) link and find this picture:



Now we must call upon your powers of observation to separate the fact from fiction. Start at the very bottom of the pole in front of the car to realize these are indeed ‘breakaway’ poles with the bolts still fastened between the actual pole and the broken off base plate. The snapping off of these poles is made possible by the "Double-Neck Pole-Safe Coupling" pictured here:

http://www.transpo.com/5100C.htm

If you walked back over to the concrete pad holding the anchor bolts, you would find the other half of these broken-off couplings embedded in the concrete. The next use of your powers of observation is to run your eyes up the length of the pole to realize there is not even a dent anywhere. How is that possible if struck by an approaching Jetliner going 500 miles per hour? :0) The next thing to note is the broken lens shattered at ‘this’ very location. If struck by a real Jetliner, the lens should be carried far away from this immediate location. These poles are designed to ‘breakaway’ from the impact of a VW Rabbit at low speeds, which was simulated by the approaching Tomahawk Missile and the ‘bow shockwave.’ The pole was struck by the wave and sent straight up into the air with the lens still intact, but the glass component broke upon striking the asphalt; which finds every broken piece right here. The missile continued on this trajectory heading . . .

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr68b.html



. . . just five feet off the ground to strike the E-Ring outer wall and create the 20-foot diameter entry hole.



The missile detonated about thirty feet inside the West Wedge Wall to create the shockwave and cordite residue corroborated by the Pentagon witnesses ( http://911review.org/Wiki/PentagonAttackWitnessesBlast.shtml ). The nose section of the missile was thrown forward still traveling at just under the speed of sound. Go down to the final diagram on this page ( http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-109.html#_SLCM ) to realize the Terminal Guidance, Seeker and Data Link hardware are all packed into the nose section in 'front' of the Payload Section. The nose section tumbled forward after detonation to begin gathering debris, until impacting on the D-Ring slab shown here:



Note the rectangular area shaded in orange and the legend comments “Slab deflected upward.” The nose section of the missile skipped on the D-Ring slab like a stone across the water, until finally punching a neat 8-foot diameter hole in the rear C-Ring Wall.



The time from the missile impact with the E-Ring outer wall to deflection on the D-Ring slab, until finally punching this hole in the rear C-Ring wall was just under a half second. Ninety percent of the columns taken out in this attack were inside a 50-feet diameter circle from the original missile impact zone. The 20-foot diameter entry hole and the 8-foot diameter exit hole, with the deflected slab and damaged columns, are consistent with a Tomahawk Missile attack ( http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/tomahawk.mpeg ) with detonation inside the E-Ring section. What we do not see is two entry holes in the outer E-Ring wall to accommodate the massive 6-ton Rolls-Royce engines of a Boeing 757-200 Jetliner going 500 miles per hour. :0)



Do these people look concerned about saving anyone from a crashed Jetliner? No. CNN Chief Correspondent Jamie McIntire stood outside the Pentagon on 9/11 just after the attack to give this report that matches the testimony of Donald Rumsfeld’s ‘missile’ explanations to Parade Magazine:

http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/index.html

No sir. A real Boeing 757-200 Jetliner is 125-feet wide and almost 50-feet tall from the tarmac to the top of the massive tail section. Even these exaggerated 75-feet wide claims are NOT supported by the photographic evidence. The CNN News Report just told us the roof collapsed about 45 minutes after the original attack, which created the exaggerated Pentagon damage found in The Editor’s very first “three days later” picture atop their disinformation article. This bogus claim that “Computer simulations confirmed the findings.” is just more nonsense. If Jim Meigs and his Editors wish to present the thesis that a real 100-ton Jetliner crashed into the Pentagon, then they are required to support that claim with 100-tons of crashed Jetliner evidence. 125-feet wide 100-ton Jetliners going 500+ miles per hour do NOT create tiny 20-feet diameter entry holes in masonry walls! These guys have no evidence for where the two massive 6-ton engines or wing sections struck the Pentagon anywhere, but they point to empty ASCE claims like that represents a fair substitute. :0)

These men are LIARS working to lead the 911Truth reader astray using nothing more than nonsense. We have pictures of the kind of damage a real Jetliner can do to a building taken on the same day!



How many readers recognize this picture of the North Tower entry hole? Note even the very tips of the wings are clearly visible, because the Jetliner was traveling at such a high rate of speed. Now compare the clear evidence of a real Jetliner crash to what we see in the Pentagon photos:



Again, the masonry columns and supports are still intact on the first floor and only two windows are missing from the second floor. None of the third story windows are even broken. :0) There is not even a piece of paper on the lawn and no place Jim Meigs’ 100-ton Jetliner can possibly be hiding. These Loyal Bushie / DoD disinformation artists are making bold claims that none of the real Pentagon evidence can begin to support.

The above explanation is very much impossible, as none of the Pentagon photos show a single gouge mark from any Jetliner wing going 500 miles per hour. I can assure you that NONE of the architects or engineers at http://www.ae911truth.org endorses Sozen’s wild claims supported by NONE of the evidence.

This is more nonsense easily disproved by the 911Truth evidence connected to the cables on the massive cable spools in this picture ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Ter...fire_spools.jpg ). If 100-tons of Jetliner vaporized over the top of these cable spools (not), then massive temperatures were required that did not even burn the plastic on these spools. Jim Meigs and his entire Editorial Staff have no evidence that over 60 tons of high grade aluminum ‘melted’ (heh), before even creating a sufficient entry hole in the West Wedge Pentagon wall. Try to imagine what just one ton of melted aluminum might look like and then multiply that by sixty. :0) These guys seem to forget that each of these massive wing sections carry a massive 6-ton Rolls-Royce engine that created NO entry holes in the outer E-Ring Pentagon facade.

No sir. The C-Ring ‘exit hole’ measures only 8 feet in diameter and this “landing gear” (heh) claim has no basis in reality whatsoever. The massive engines have a much higher density than the fuselage or landing gear, as if their fictitious phantom Jetliner should have the landing gear down anyway. :0)

Note the 100-ton Jetliner of Jim Meigs’ thesis is merely a ‘passenger plane’ and his evidence is based upon animated cartoons. A great deal of real photographic, video and eyewitness testimony supports the ‘missile’ explanation to a tee! Military eyewitness personnel at the Pentagon on 9/11 testified to the ‘shockwave’ and the smell of ‘cordite.’

http://911review.org/Wiki/PentagonAttackWitnessesBlast.shtml

What you do not have are military eyewitnesses testifying about the smell of burning kerosene and tons of crashed Jetliner.

This is perhaps the most hilarious claim of all from the PM Editors, because only ‘two’ second story windows are missing and NONE of the third story windows are even broken. No blast-resistant window invented and built by men can withstand the impact of a 100-ton Jetliner going over 500 miles per hour. :0) Remember the large cable spools sitting directly under the 20-feet diameter entry hole, which point to the 911Truth that any 50-feet tall Jetliner MUST have passed over them.



Raising a real Boeing 757-200 Jetliner up to pass over those spools puts us well into the third floor where none of the windows were even broken. :0) Note the massive tail section is lining up with the fourth floor windows even now, which totally obliterates The Editor’s bogus claims without a single word of rebuttal from anyone.

This ‘apples versus oranges’ claim is nothing more than Loyal Bushie Disinformation completely irrelevant to this case, as if the Pentagon masonry wall and installed windows (heh) could withstand the impact of a 100-ton Jetliner going 500 miles per hour.

Again, Jim Meigs and the entire PM Editorial Staff is just as much in the “Conspiracy Theorist” business as anyone with a 911Truth explanation. We can see plenty of ‘planted’ Boeing evidence part of the Official DoD Cover Story, but NOTHING to match the ‘photographic evidence’ contained in the actual pictures taken on 9/11. These disinformation artists have done their best to ‘simulate’ a real Jetliner crash at the Pentagon with their propaganda, but without 100-tons of evidence. You are looking at a tiny piece of the ‘starboard’ (right = http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pent1/hull.html ) side fuselage found over 200 feet to the ‘left’ of the 20-feet diameter entry hole from the pictures above.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pent1/coverup.html



The very first task of a real Crime Scene Investigator is to reconstruct the actual crime scene. These DoD operatives are not running around picking up ‘evidence’ at all, but are caught in the act of putting these few small pieces of planted evidence ‘down.’ Remember again that our original pictures show not even a piece of paper on the pristine Pentagon lawn ( http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/lawn0.jpg ), so how do you explain the presence of a tiny piece of unburned starboard-side fuselage over 200 feet away on the port side of the crash? :0) The fact that these DoD operatives are even in possession of supposed Flight 77 evidence proves the original crime scene was corrupt from the very beginning. Real Crime Scene Investigators should have been marking the ground and tagging this evidence, before anything was touched and moved by anyone.

If Mr. Kilsheimer saw ‘wing marks’ on the face of the building (not), then where are the two entry holes some 50 feet apart where the massive 6-ton engines impacted the masonry wall? :0) Again, none of the structural engineers at http://www.ae911truth.org will agree with these bogus claims in a million years.

This guy held the massive Boeing 757-200 tail section in his hand. :0) Here is the picture of a real tail section from a real Jetliner crash:

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pent1/othercrashes.html



There are no pictures of a wrecked Flight 77 anywhere on earth, as nobody can fit the 100-ton Jetliner inside the tiny 20-feet diameter entry hole. Where is the link to the revealing photos of Mr. Kilsheimer’s magnificent claim? This guy is a Loyal Bushie “Inside Job” LIAR and nothing more. I look forward to tracking this guy down for confirmation of his outrageous claims, before carrying out a real investigation of his so-called photographic ‘evidence.’

The fact is that the PM Pentagon Disinformation Article contained only three pictures including NO crashed Jetliner at all. In each case and without exception, ALL of the PM Editorial claims turned out to be unsupported by the actual photographic evidence taken on 9/11. This group of overzealous writers attempted to validate their unsupportable claims using the testimony of their so-called experts, because none of them are qualified to be making these kinds of outrageous declarations. Every reader and judge in this Pentagon Debate should carry out their own 911Truth investigation by carefully examining ‘all’ of the evidence, which includes tossing out the literal mountain of disinformation you see clearly displayed in this PM article.

GL,

Terral

you should do a composite of that raytheon tomahawk painted with AA colors, and see how much it looks like an airplane... and then calculate how long it would be in a witness's field of vision at the alleged speeds...

might be an interesting piece of info to have.


Good article. I still don't believe a boeing crashed there either. you could be right. the small amount of evidence in those pictures might have been planted there by the people in the photos, instead of taken away by them...

Well, there was zero new in this cut and paste job that we haven't all seen and heard before.

However, I did pick up on the above. You BEGIN in the first paragraph calling the PM article a "Disinformation Article."

Your next paragraph argues that their position is somehow weakened since they referred to the opposition as "conspiracy theorists."

Pot meet kettle.

The rest is the same old same old.

BTW, once I know the source of info is pft it immediately has zero credibility to me. You can blame Robbie for that. At his personal direction, he has banned dozens of civil posters like myself who have attempted to argue an opposing point of view. No cussing, no name calling, nothing except disagreeing with robbies pov. There have been pilots, engineers, architects, controllers, etc. who have all been banned over there. Of course, Rob used the same Nazi techniques of attempthing to control information here when he was an admin...thank god Dylan saw the light with that crap and showed him the door.

Once it became apparent that pft is a sham and wants anything BUT the truth, then any and all credibility was lost.

Next.

I'm not going to be so kind on Terral because his stuff is full of disinfo.

Thats a hell of a powerfull Tomahawk that can knock off lightpoles only passing by them.

Its not like you can draw one solid line with the knocked lightpoles :)

You need something large with wings. Or a team of very dedicated agents for some other people. But a Tomahawk wont do.

It seems you are taking all of the easily debunkable stuff and after sugar-coating it a bit differently you basically state it as fact again.

Your shit is elaborate.. you must be quite bored or something?

(RedDawn, I have no reason to think he is PFT. What makes you say that?)

Terral
911Truth.org (Advisor)
AE911Truth.org
PilotsForTruth.org

I noticed that.

I believe JDX could be a victim here of the same type of thing that happened when real pilots had their name on his list.

Rob wouldnt openly support no-planers... that doesnt make any sense. (to me anyway..)

Hi RedDawn:

Bullony. New 911Truthers are becoming more interested in these 911 Topics all the time, as if Red speaks for everybody. :0)

I took the time to actually “quote >>” every word of the PM ‘piece’ to offer my opposing arguments. That qualifies me to place the “Disinformation Article” tag ON THEIR WORK. Jim Meigs is characterizing other ‘people’ with opposing explanations as ‘Conspiracy Theorists,’ which is a horse of a completely different color. What did Red quote from my rebuttal to offer any opposing arguments using any kind of evidence? Oh, your stone-chucking charade never developed into anything more . . . Your entire post is condescending and juvenile from this perspective . . .

Really? Please post the link to your arguments for a 109-A Tomahawk Missile striking the Pentagon. :0) We will settle for your rebuttals to this Popular Mechanic “The Pentagon” article. Where did you compare the impact hole of the North Tower to the 20-feet diameter entry hole from the Pentagon Wall? Where did you show the straight line between that entry hole, the ‘Slab deflected upward’ area of D-Ring slab and the 8-feet diameter C-Ring exit hole? Please point us to your ‘same old’ arguments about the undamaged Pole #1 in this picture . . .



. . . showing not even a dent on the entire length of the pole? How did the broken lens end up right here on the asphalt, if struck by a 100-ton Jetliner going 500 miles per hour? :0) You pretend the Tomahawk Missile “Bow Shockwave” argument has been presented a hundred times, when many of these readers have never seen this evidence laid out in this way before.

No sir. I joined the PilotsForTruth.org website on Sept 2, 2007 ( http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Trut...?showtopic=8773 ), which has nothing to do with my credibility about anything. The wise 911Truther bases his conclusions on THE EVIDENCE without showing favoritism to ‘persons’ or ‘personalities’ either way. The idea that you would attach credibility to anyone for belonging to one 911Truth website or another is just more juvenile behavior IMHO. I do not know any Robbie, but you can blame anybody for your own blindness to the 911Truth if that makes Red happy. :0)

None of your meaningless drivel adds one thing to this debate. I do not know any Rob or Dylan and do not care to know RedDawn either. I serve The 911Truth in all of my posts without regard to the people running these Boards. A fellow AE911Truth member invited me to join over at PilotsForTruth.org and they received my Flight 93, Flight 77 and WTC-7 Opening Posts like everybody else. Perhaps your tendency to bad-mouth other registered members was wearing thin on those Admins too . . .

Please . . . All of these 911Truth Boards are ‘tools’ for writers to present their cases using anything they feel qualifies as real ‘evidence.’ I have the same Topics posted at 911Truth.org, AE911Truth.org, PilotsForTruth and here at the Loose Change Forum (among other places). Everyone is encouraged to chime in and present your advocating or opposing views, even if that includes Red’s whining and crying.

Next nothing. If you have nothing to add to my rebuttal comments about this PM “The Pentagon” article, then please harass somebody else. Every 911Truth Board has good AND bad members. I am happy to have already met many of the good apples here at the LC Board who have already helped me make better 911Truth presentations. Please try building somebody up rather than working to tear somebody down and maybe a third party reader will be blessed in the process.

GL,

Terral

Hi Racer:

Really? What did Racer ‘quote >>’ to prove ‘disinfo’ from my Opening Post? Oh – nothing. How many pictures are included in this rebuttal from you? None. In short, your claims here are supported by nothing at all. GL in the debate if you ever decide to join in.

Yes. The power of the created bow shockwave of a 3000 pound Tomahawk Missile traveling the speed of sound at sea level is sufficient to simulate a VW Rabbit going at slow speeds.

You can draw a straight line charting the flight path of the Tomahawk Missile that struck the Pentagon.



You will also find that path follows this trajectory heading:

Heh . . . This is your three-sentence opinion apart from any stated thesis, claims or evidence. Missiles create bow shockwaves like any other flying object going the speed of sound in the atmosphere. This is the only answer that explains all the evidence in this case.

I quoted every single word from the PM article mister and offered ‘my’ opposing arguments from the perspective of the “Tomahawk Missile” ( http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=14796 ) Thesis. Head over there and post your three-sentence drivel against anything you wish. GL.

Your work is very one-dimensional and representative of a child starting first grade IMHO. Try to prove one thing from my Opening Post is 'disinformation.' Perhaps you are just bored or something . . . or both . . .

GL,

Terral

If a missile blew the exit hole - how/why did it decelerate in the 41 feet of the A/E Drive and NOT impact the opposing B Ring wall?

Air brakes?

Hi Russell:

Please read the details of my explanation again. No ‘missile’ blew the 8-feet diameter C-Ring exit hole out. The Tomahawk Missile detonated just feet inside the outer E-Ring wall, which propelled the disintegrating ‘nose section’ through the D and C-Rings respectively. The B-Ring was damaged in the attack, but the details of that event are not well documented.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro...p01/attack.html

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=44912

Remember that only Wedge One had the newly installed sprinkler system ( http://www.911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/a...s/location.html ) . . .



. . . and the missile "nose section and accumulated mass" broke through into the unprotected B-Ring area of Wedge Two. Therefore, even a very small building fire started in the ‘unprotected’ Wedge Two area could potentially escalate into a major catastrophe. This picture . . .



. . . shows a side view of the 8-feet diameter C-Ring exit hole on your left and no apparent entry hole in the B-Ring at all. However, the firemen in the distance are definitely watering down the remains of a fire started in the Wedge Two B-Ring section of the Pentagon because the end of the C-Ring area is behind the wall to your left. The problem with identifying the component parts of this tumbling Tomahawk Missile nose section is the entire mass becomes superheated during and after the time the warhead exploded just inside the E-Ring wall. Parts of the superheated mass were ripped away, as other metal components were simultaneously added, until the accumulated ‘shotgun-like’ mass impacted against the rear C-Ring wall.

The distance our Missile nose section and accumulated mass traveled was directly proportionate to the original missile speed and mass added to the energy of the warhead detonation minus the energy lost by the impact with each obstacle (E, D, C-Ring walls, columns, etc.) and their collective masses and densities. The end result finds the stored energy of the missile nose section decreasing to zero somewhere between the rear C-Ring and outer B-Ring walls. If you take a hammer and strike a masonry block in the center of an empty (no concrete poured in the cell) cell, in any typical masonry wall very hard and very quickly, then you will create a perfectly round hole exactly like you see created in the rear C-Ring exit hole example AND the hammer need not even penetrate the block at all. The only thing required to create this perfectly round hole in a masonry wall is the transfer of sufficient ‘force,’ which was easily provided by the tumbling nose section of the Tomahawk Missile that created all of this Pentagon damage on 9/11.

The question back to you is: Why are we looking at a ‘single’ 20-feet diameter entry hole in the outer E-Ring wall AND a ‘single’ 8-feet diameter exit hole in the rear C-Ring wall, INSTEAD of twin holes for the two 6-ton Rolls Royce Engines? :0)

GL,

Terral