Since the the OP of Russell's thread has NOTHING to do with the north side claim or the witnesses I will address his response to each witness one by one with their own thread so the discussion will not get to convoluted.
We'll start with Edward Paik just like Russell did.
Russell said:
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When I originally discovered Edward and his brother and introduced them to Craig and Aldo we interviewed him at a location remote from where he was on 9/11.
He has some difficulty with English but is very honest and sincere.
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Aldo is the one who TOLD RUSSELL in advance about A-1 Auto and how CIT wanted to go there. Russell rushed there just before the plane landed with Aldo & Craig on it and found Shinki, the brother who did NOT see the plane. Russell did NOT "discover" Edward; Shinki told CIT all about Edward and together everyone all went to the different auto shop further in the city where Edward was working at the time.
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When he originally described the event he had the plane significantly out in front of him. He even believed it had hit the VDOT radio antenna significantly away from the flight path that I believed Craig coached him into.
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Why Pickering would lie like this when we all have a copy of the interview I do not know.
Pickering was the one who led Edward as it is apparent that Edward describes the EXACT SAME flight path and has the plane closer to his shop than the VDOT just as he did in the interview in The PentaCon but Russell tried leading him back to the VDOT antenna.
Watch Craig, Aldo, Russell, and Dylan all interview Edward Paik during our first interview in front of a DIFFERENT auto shop from where he saw the plane here:
Edward Paik's first interview Aug 2006Obviously he did NOT "see" it hit the antenna (because it wasn't hit) and he thought it
almost hit the Navy Annex meaning it was headed north of the citgo. Clearly Craig did not coach him because this is EXACTLY what he describes in the interview.
Images from first interview:
He describes it has having come from a "little bit left" of the Sheraton:

And crossing over the street to almost hit the last building of the Navy Annex.

Here he is describing the exact same thing during CIT's interview on location....
Coming from here:

Going this way:

Which matches ALL of his illustrations.



How DARE Pickering accuse CIT of "coaching" him when he has this original footage proving Edward described the same flight path and incorrectly deduced that that antenna was hit.
This is a blatant and pathetically transparent smear attempt and we will continue to expose him for his malicious, deceptive, relentless, and completely erroneous attacks against us.
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What I believe Craig would have done if he was actually trying to determine the truth is this:
1) Stand back and have Edward totally reenact his experience with NO interference. 2) Film him coming out of the door and telling his own story (where Craig filmed Edward is not where he had his experience. He was out in the parking lot aimed in the direction Craig wanted him to be - not at the door describing it in his own words). 3) Then follow up with a series of clarification questions unedited.
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Regardless of how Russell thinks it SHOULD have been done Edward described THE SAME flight path in both interviews. Crossing over from the south to the north of Columbia pike at an angle, almost hitting the roof of the buildings in front of the shop, and thinking it would hit the Navy Annex.
NOTHING CHANGED.
He admitted he did NOT see the plane hit the antenna and only incorrectly deduced that it must have because they were working on it the next day.
Because of this and also because of his English and the fact that we were not on location and nobody had images for him to draw on his first account of the flight path was simply left ambiguous.
Craig cleared it up 100% and it's obvious now that both of his accounts match.
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To this day I want to know why it took 3 graphics to get the one that CIT uses as "scientific proof". This is one unedited sequence I would love to see.
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He drew the flight path the same all 3 times just like he DESCRIBES the flight path the same in both interviews.
You are deceptively trying to sew confusion and cast doubt on the interview even though CIT reported the exact same thing.
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This brings up a good point. Why are we not privy to ALL footage and interviews? Would nuetral researchers provide this? Why have we not heard ANY evidence from CIT that disagrees with them? Are you telling me ALL of the people they spoke with did not have any other points of view?
They are holding back as much as they are releasing in my opinion.
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Listen to how Pickering has no problem COMPLETELY FABRICATING lies and justifying it by ADMITTING that it's merely his "opinion".
The north side claim is the ONLY thing CIT is touting as "proof" of inside job and we have released all information in this regard.
The additional interviews aren't as critical and there is ZERO difference from us waiting to release them with RE as there is with Dylan keeping interviews secret that are in FC.
This is more of Pickering desperately trying to maliciously cast doubt on CIT personally or our motives.
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Anyway - Edward had NO VISUAL REFERENCE to the Citgo or the impact. NONE. He is therefore NOT a witness to the north claim.
The reason he was included is that they were digging for ANYTHING that supported them. "Quadruple corroboration".
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He places the plane crossing over to the north side of Columbia Pike. This fatally contradicts the physical damage flight path and puts the plane right on course for north of the citgo! OF COURSE he corroborates the north side claim.
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The real problem is that they should have left him out. Take where Craig lead him to describe the plane. Then draw a line to match Lagasse and then the flyover.
Even at a moderate speed - let alone 532 mph - that is a radical maneuver worthy of mention. NOBODY volunteered a significant wing tilt as part of their testimony.
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Because they weren't in a position to see it. But your bud Mike Walter reports one! And so does Penny Elgas. And so does CIT's latest north side witness and he had a PERFECT view of the bank!
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Also, Craig for some reason did not (as we have it) inquire about the roll axis attitude of the aircraft. That would be VERY important information to actually cooroborate the flight path.
WHY wasn't it asked of each witness?????
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It was already asked in the first interview and that has now been released so there you go.
CIT was concentrating on the flight path.
If you guys haven't watched it yet check out the first Edward Paik interview:
Watch interview here.At the time his account of the flight path was ambiguous but in light of my follow up interview it is quite clear that he describes it exactly the same both times.
First interview:


2nd interview:


Clearly he corroborates the north side claim 100% both times.
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Why Pickering would lie like this when we all have a copy of the interview I do not know.
How DARE Pickering accuse CIT of "coaching" him when he has this original footage proving Edward described the same flight path and incorrectly deduced that that antenna was hit.
This is a blatant and pathetically transparent smear attempt and we will continue to expose him for his malicious, deceptive, relentless, and completely erroneous attacks against us. |
How come this Pickering character has not been banned from this forum? If outright lying is not against the Forum rules, then it should be.
I must admit that it seems Edward describes the same flight path in both interviews. It is strange how he thinks the plane could have hit the VDOT antenna even though that's not what he saw but he clearly has the plane crossing over to the north side and almost hitting the last building of the Navy Annex in both interviews.
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| I must admit that it seems Edward describes the same flight path in both interviews. It is strange how he thinks the plane could have hit the VDOT antenna even though that's not what he saw but he clearly has the plane crossing over to the north side and almost hitting the last building of the Navy Annex in both interviews. |
Edward explains why he believed the plane hit the antenna. He didn't see it hit, but deduced that it must have hit because he saw people repairing the antenna the next day and the plane was flying very low. This should have no bearing on the fact that he witnessed the plane travel north of Citgo.
Ironically, mistaken deduction may have also played a role in witnesses claiming the plane hit the pentagon. Did they visually see the plane go into the Pentagon prior to the fireball? Or are they deducing just like Edward that it must have hit because what else would have caused the fireball?