is WORSE.

The alternative to a gov conspiracy, is as follows:

Where was HOMELAND SECURITY/CIA/FBI/NSA then?? (Sept 11, 2001)???
What were those entities doing at the time, other than feeling good about their hefty salaries by doing nothing??

Yeah, HomeLandSec.....keep taking the shoes OFF of passengers and pilots alike, maybe you will justify your s.h.i.t.t.y existence, paid for by US tax payers.

If there was no conspiracy, our government failed us badly, to say the least.
THAT is the SCARY part.

To this day, borders to the North and South are wide open, and it's OK.
No terrorists will dare cross our loose borders. All they have to do is go through airports, and hijack planes.
Not to mention the fact that with the DRONE technology (which US possessed for a while), they could actually steer a plane out of the pilots' hands, due to mandatory installation of such devices on the latest generation planes. PERIOD.

After watching History's channel presentation of "9/11 Conspiracies:Fact/Fiction" on the evening of August 20th, 2007, and seeing the editors of Popular Mechanics magazine trying to de-bunk the conspiracy theory, it dawned on me that the very same people must have had some article, burried somewhere in their archives, describing how DRONES work and how it is possible to remotely operate any aircraft. Therefore, Popular Mechanics felt obliged to de-bunk any theories regarding aircraft remote controlling capabilities. Please look into that.
If you accept the inertial navigation system which was installed on airliners back in the 70's, you should also be willing to accept the fact that remote receivers/controllers were recently installed also (unbeknownst to pilots, of course).
Nowadays, planes land themselves, literally. If that's the case, then the question rises up like a Viagra driven RED FLAG: "Can the people on the ground, re-enter the coordinates of the landing target of a particular plane???? HUH??HUH?"
Does the bear s.h.it in the woods??

Related links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_guidance_system

Furthermore:

"Oceania is still at war with Eurasia even if they're really at war with Eastasia."

"The whole globe is divided into three countries, Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia all perpetually at war with each other."

"The very vocabulary of the people was under Party Control; a system called “newspeak” was encouraged. One of the most dreaded words in the arsenal of Newspeak was the most heinous offence according to the Party – that of “thoughtcrime” which was sure to be punished by the Thought police. The slogans of Newspeak are “War is Peace” Freedom is Slavery” and “Ignorance is Strength.” "
George Orwell - 1984

Related links:
http://online-literature.com/orwell/1984/

Little did George Orwell know that he was off oh, by about 27 years.
Nowadays there are thought/hate crimes and there is a hidden Thought Police.

René Descartes said: "Dubito ergo cogito, cogito ergo sum".
"I doubt therefore I think, I think therefore I exist".

The above, if BUSH were to pronounce it, should come out something like this:
"Huh...well, I think...that huh, we........are winning the war...hehehehe."

WHAT WAR, IDIOT??

Keep up the good work.

Regards

I don't know which agencies were involved, but there were exercises being carried out simulating an airplane crashing into a building.

The Department of Homeland Security had a hard time doing anything about the 9/11 attacks, probably because it wasn't established until two years later.

How would you go about closing off the 2000-mile southern border and the 3000-mile northern border? (Not including water boundaries, of course)

I can't but disagree. If 9/11 was a conspiracy it would be far worse than if our government had simply failed.

Glad you mentioned the waterways.
How? by putting up barbed wire fences and boosting the Border Patrol numbers and capabilities.
How is it that the Coast Guard is so much more efficient and do a better job at protecting the shores? What's the difference between shore lines and inland borders? Why have any borders then? For the Geography lessons only?
Don't those borders define a country anymore?
Even though there is a European Union, crossing any borders illegally is still disallowed and they may just shoot you on sight.
Allowing the illegal crossing of the borders is another measure of how this government has failed us. You think this is better than conspiring against the people? In a way it may be part of the same conspiracy, but it is a lot more obvious and "in your face" than whatever happened on 9-11.
If there is a conspiracy, I would start by asking the gov to explain the border mess first, and how is it that in the so called "fight against terrorism", our borders are (still) not sealed.

Regards

And who's going to fund that? The taxpayers. Rather, they aren't going to fund it because they will refuse to. The cost of putting up a fence would be considerable in itself, but the fence is useless unless you either spend huge sums of money on making it impassable or if you have patrols. Patrols over a combined 5,000 miles is not a walk in the park.

Water. It's easier to find a point over a thousand-mile land stretch and cross it than it is to swim across the Atlantic Ocean. Any boat that would take someone over the distance would have to be too large to go unnoticed. Also, since people like living near the water, coastlines are densely populated, unlike, say, our Northern border. So that leaves the passable passages in places that are near another country, the US, and water.
Or maybe I'm overthinking this, and the coasts are only secure because the land borders are easier to cross.

Now you understand. Compare Border Patrol resources vs. Coast Guard.

Border Patrol is some kind of a joke, by comparison.

What US relied upon 200 years ago, does not work anymore.
Granted US has ONLY 2 neighbors to the NORTH and SOUTH.

US slacked off on those borders. For years US citizens and "others" were able to cross back and forth between US and CANADA and US and Mexico, thinking it is OK, because our Agencies, such as CIA/FBI/NSA could monitor these crossings.

Does that mean those borders should be ignored??

Regarding HomeLand Security office:
It is just another inert agency, living off of private enterprise tax money, doing nothing but taking people's shoes off and arresting their little nail cutters at the airports. PFFFF. Whatta JOKE.
How about no deodorants/Cologne/After shave bottles???
Imagine the smell on that plane?? Similar to a flight within CHINA, where people pack their hens and small animals in the upper storage bins. Whatta blast.
I know, because I have been there. ANY COMMENTS?

People, WAKE UP ! The US GOV is not representing us anymore.
THEY, the Senators and Congressmen (Congresswomen too), only represent the big corporations which are willing to DONATE sustaining monies for the next election of that particular SENATOR or Congresswoman.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY and IT DWARFS all others. PERIOD.

Stop looking at the small picture and start looking at the BIG PICTURE/CONSPIRACY.

Americans, wake the f UP !! -

Here is a story to sustain the above:
http://draculascastle.com/phpbb2/viewtopic...light+marshalls

READ the WRITING on the WALL:
Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin

"These Aramaic words may be translated literally as, “It has been counted and counted, weighed and divided.” Daniel interpreted this to mean that the king’s deeds had been weighed and found deficient and that his kingdom would therefore be divided"

Later ON, the ROMANS wrote: "DIVIDE ET IMPERA" - "DIVIDE and CONQUER/RULE" - The easiest way to control a country/population

You are alone, aren't you?

Sad is the case of the person who shouts at the rain to stop.

Okay, so you want to continuously patrol a 5,000 mile border. Why don't you go do it then? You can start every day in Tiajuana and drive toward Brownsville.

Can't make it? So you need how many people to drive individaul segments of that? Fifty, a hundred? Two Hundred? Just to partrol it once. Then what happens at the end of that 8 hour shift? It seems you'll need about a thousand people--just patrolers. Then when they see some people coming across, what then? Arrest them, shoot them on sight, what? More manpower involved there.

Then of course lawyers get involved anytime there is police action. More cases for our courts...it's a good thing the legal system is so untaxed. LOL

So were looking at about 5,000 salaried professionals to get it up off the ground.
Wait a second, it sould like DHS to me. Because as soon as you send some people back, the next evening, there will be another crop of people coming across. Just like at the airports, really.

Your simplistic arguments are humorous.

No need to get personal on this issue.

No matter how many, they shall still be a lot less than the US troops OVERSEAS who are being killed and maimed in the name of fighting terrorism, while US borders are (still) wide open for drug traffickers and terrorists alike.

Regarding the lawyers: The illegal crossing of the borders into these US, should not even be mentioned into a court of law. If the PERIMETER of these USA are to be protected, the shootings and protecting of the borders shall become a matter of NATIONAL Security, not to be blogged and submitted to the people for review.

US granted and is granting Political Asylum to humans being submitted to sub human conditions in their country of birth, because of political and religious points of view which go against the party in power. PERIOD.

US cannot accommodate all the economical refugees, but is trying to accommodate political refugees.

If you do not know the difference, please get your head out of the sand, and smell the (dead) roses. BTW, am still trying to be nice.

The way it works, in case you have not read the thread, is like this:
You shoot anybody who tries to cross the border ILEGALLY. WATCH my lips.
Why don't you DARE..cross the border between Austria and Switzerland, for instance, where you shouldn't be crossing. Think they shall ask questions first and shoot later?? THINK AGAIN. AS the word goes travels fast, next day, there shall never be ANY new comers. BELIEVE YOU ME.
Why should people from Europe/ASIA/AFRICA/AUSTRALIA go through DUE process to come into this country, while people from North and South are EXEMPT?
AGAIN..READ MY LIPS, while you're getting your head out of the sand.
The next quote is from ARVEL-

You must be joking. Guess who is funding 2 billions a WEEK in the war with IRAQ, chasing rabbits??? IT IS CALLED US TAXPAYERS' MONEY..HELLO?

With all that taxpayers' money, don't you think you would feel more secure, if the borders were actually being controlled, rather than just being "managed"???

Why are National Guard men and women shipped abroad??
Were they not supposed to stay here and protect US from foreign invasions??

The smoke and mirrors DO NOT count anymore. SEE through it.

Finally, to "yrulying2me":

My simplistic views are better than yours. :-)