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alive and still talking - June 9, 2007 05:05 PM (GMT)
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PUTIN POWER--DEVELOPING STORY OF A LITTLE DICTATOR

HE MAKES THE HEADLINES FREQUENTLY, BUT ALARMS DONT GO OFF

SMALL IN STATURE BUT VERY CHARISMATIC, LIKE HITLER

BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO MEASURE HIS SUCCESS

OR RECOGNIZE THE IMPLICATIONS ON FUTURE WORLD EVENTS



OF THE MANY HEADLINES ON PUTIN,
the azerbaijan story was the first of many to get my attention, the story keeps getting better all the time, as if we have nothing to fear when this charismatic leader smiles

The following article was written by invitation from QRS...

Why is Bush obsessed with putting the missiles in Poland, and the radar in the Czech Republic?

Why did Putin object, and suggest Azerbaijan instead?

Is Zionism involved?

To get behind what's really going on, let’s examine this topic under the following headings…

1.The missiles
2.Poland and the Czech Republic
3.Azerbaijan

THE MISSILES

This issue is not about megatons; it’s about mega-bucks. The missiles themselves are irrelevant. They're junk. They've never worked, and never will. Bush, Putin, Israel, and everyone else involved know this. The rocket boosters are made right here in my town by Orbital Sciences Inc. under contract from Boeing. The kill vehicles are made at a Raytheon plant just south of me. Raytheon also makes the X-band radar that will be installed in the Czech Republic. TRW makes the tracking system (not the detection system). Lockheed makes the computers. Bechtel digs the silos. Fluor provides infrastructures. All these outfits share a budget of $10 billion each year, with Boeing leading the money grab.

The “missile shield” scam began during the Reagan era. Since then, weapons makers have milked the scam for over 100 billion dollars overall. There is even a Pentagon branch that oversees the theft. Today it’s called the Missile Defense Agency (MDA). Last month (May 2007) the MDA completed a shiny new headquarters building at the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama.

Under Rumsfeld, the Pentagon adopted a new procurement policy of “spiral development," which delighted the MDA and the missile defense industry. With “spiral development,” weapons makers no longer need to prove a system will work before the Pentagon will buy it. Instead, they cobble together a sexy new toy and trot it out to the field. Then they rake in billions of tax dollars in a never-ending attempt to make the toy work. All failures are blamed on outside factors, not on the junk system. In this game, profits depend on having a system that does NOT work. The more you fail, the more tax dollars you collect for continued testing and development. The airborne laser and other boondogles are part of the game. Meanwhile "national defense" is considered a quaint notion.

Eighteen of the junk missiles have been installed at Fort Greely, Alaska. Several more are at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Every test has been a failure, but has been faked or fudged to make the system appear viable. Whistleblowers come and go. Most have been terminated for trying to expose the scam.

In order to keep the theft going, the MDA must expand. It must have legitimacy. It must suck other countries into its game. Thus far, Japan has been the only nation willing to participate, since the Japanese defense industry is as greedy and corrupt as the American one is. MDA’s dream, however, has been to involve Europe.

POLAND AND THE CZECH REPUBLIC

The MDA knows its system is garbage, and that citizens oppose it whenever the truth gets out. Therefore the MDA needed European countries that have greedy, corrupt, and tyrannical governments. The logical first choice was Hungary, whose government is utterly owned and operated by Zionist Jew thugs. Hungarian ministers and bureaucrats spend almost as much time in Israel as they do in Hungary. Unfortunately the citizens of Hungary are so tired of Zionist control that they would have used explosives to sabotage the missile system.

England was a possibility under Blair, but Blair’s political fortunes were destroyed by the Iraq nightmare, and by Israel’s 2006 rape of Lebanon. When the British people found out about the MDA’s planned missile system, they objected strongly enough to kill the plan.

That left the two other countries whose citizens are completely under the Zionist heel: Poland and the Czech Republic. Poland’s government crawls with Jewish gangsters, some of which were kicked out of Russia. WUFYS readers know about militant Israeli tourists that defecate in Polish hotel beds during the “holocaust tours” and so on. The Zionists that control Poland are locked in a power struggle with Putin regarding oil and gas pipelines. They know the missiles are junk, but they want the missiles as a political symbol against Russia. Also the missiles will bring contacts with top-shelf weapons makers in the USA. Poland is Khazar Central for Europe. Of all nations in Europe, the Polish government has the closest relationship with the Khazar zio-cons of the Bush regime.

Putin knows all this. His objection to missiles in Poland concerns economics and oil politics. Missiles on Russia’s doorstep are like Soviet missiles on America’s doorstep in Cuba. The missiles are useless, but are nonetheless an insult, an effrontery, a symbolic "f**k you,” especially when it comes from Zionist gangsters in the Polish government. The Gentile citizens of Poland (mostly Catholic) do not want the missiles. The missiles will not bring any new jobs; they will just bring more corruption, more zio-con tyranny, and more threats of energy cut-offs from Russia.

The situation in the Czech Republic is more delicate. Its government is also under the Zionist yoke, but the Jews are not able to rule with an iron fist. Their margin of power is stable but slim. More importantly, Prague is an extremely expensive place to live. The distinction between urban dwellers and rural dwellers is dramatic. Rural dwellers are extremely nationalistic, yet highly educated. They don’t like being under the Zionist heel, but they can do little about it. They have, however, been protesting the ridiculous missile radar more and more vehemently.

None of this matters to Zionists or to their drunken puppet in the White House. Zionists commit whatever atrocities they like, since any objections are “anti-Semitic.” However Putin’s threat of retargeting his missiles was real, albeit theatrical. He let tensions escalate to the point where they threatened the entire G8 summit at Heiligendamm, Germany, and did not respond when the Bush-chimp stopped at Prague, en route to the summit, and said democracy had been “derailed” under Putin. Bush also met with the Jews that control the Czech government and told them to be patient. The Russian Constitution only allows a president to serve two consecutive terms, and this year is Putin’s last. The Czech Republic will have its radar. The Jews will have their “f**k you” symbol, if they will just wait a bit longer. The system won’t be finished until 2012 anyway.

Again, Putin is aware of all this. At the G8 summit, he surprised everyone by suggesting Azerbaijan as an alternate missile base. The missiles would be put on an old Soviet site that Russia continues to rent from Azerbaijan, thus allowing transparency and equal access to all. Since Bush claims that the missiles are against “rogue states,” why not have them in Azerbaijan, which is directly between Iran and Europe? The missiles would protect all of Europe, not just Poland and the east. Moreover, Azerbaijan is an eager participant in the “war on terror,” and its president, Ilham Aliyev, would welcome the missiles.

It was a PR masterstroke. Bush’s imps ran around in a panic, not knowing how to respond. Security advisor Stephen Hadley said he doubted the “geometry” would work. MDA spokesman Rick Lehner (Zionist Jew) said the missiles would be most effective in Europe, closer to the target, which is the exact opposite of the truth. Offensive missiles -- especially long-range ballistic ones -- are most vulnerable in their boost phase. Once they achieve semi-orbit, it’s game-over. (Remember, all U.S. tests of its system have been faked or fudged to make the junk system appear viable.)

When Bush turns down Putin’s offer, the American masses will buy the lies, but how will it look to the Gentile citizenry of Poland and the Czech Republic, who don’t want the missile system?

Yet even this is but the tip of the iceberg. To fully understand Putin’s cleverness, we must look closer at Azerbaijan.

AZERBAIJAN

Putin’s suggestion may seem surprising, since Azerbaijan is yet another country under the Zionist heel, despite being 96 percent Muslim (80 percent Shi’ite, 20 percent Sunni). Therefore what difference can it make if the missiles are in one Zionist country or another?

The difference is vast, though it may not seem so on the surface.

First, let’s examine Zionist control of Azerbaijan. When the USSR fell in 1991, various republics scrambled for territory, including Armenia, which finally saw a chance to be free from Russians, Turks, and Jews. Christian Armenia is the most anti-Zionist nation in Central Europe. Iran may seem anti-Zionist, but only because of continual threats from Zionists. Iran was the first Muslim nation to formally recognize Israel, and would gladly do business with Israel today, if Israel were not psychotic. Iran’s blood enemies are not Jews, but fundamentalist Sunni Arabs. Jews have always been a protected group in Iran and Azerbaijan.

In the post-Soviet power struggle, Armenia invaded territory known as the Nagorno-Karabakh region, which Azeris say is part of Azerbaijan. In 1992 a bloody war broke out between Armenians and Azeris. The Azeris share history and religion (Shi’ite Islam) with neighboring Iran, but they are ethnically and linguistically Turko-Khazars. Hence they appealed to Turkey for help. The Turkish government has long been a Zionist collaborator, and Israel was happy to get involved.

The Azeris got money and arms from Turkey and Israel. The Armenians got money, arms, and oil from Iran and Russia. Keep in mind that while Azerbaijan is mostly Shi’ite Muslim, Azerbaijan has friction with Iran. Almost 30 percent of Iran’s population is Azeri, and they do not like Iran’s government. As Turko-Khazars, they prefer a more secular government like Turkey’s.

The war continued for two years (1992-1994). Khazarist Turkey has always hated Christian Armenians (remember the 1915 genocide) and closed its border with Armenia during the war. The Armenians captured 20 percent of what was once Azerbaijan, forcing over a million Azeris to flee the area.

A stalemate set in, until new oil deposits were found in the Caspian Sea. Then the real games began -- games that will bring us back to Putin and the missiles, as well shall see below.

In the early 1990s, Armenian-Americans had a powerful lobby in Washington DC. The lobby got Congress to pass the Freedom Support Act in 1992, which promised aid to all the former Soviet republics except Azerbaijan. Armenia received over $1 billion in U.S. aid, while Azerbaijan got nothing.

Then everything changed when new oil deposits were found in the Caspian Sea. AIPAC crushed the Armenian lobby. Azerbaijan’s government became utterly corrupt. Israelis moved into Azerbaijan and took over. Azerbaijan had previously received help from Arabia through the Islamic Development Bank, but when the Israelis moved in, the Zionist World Bank and IMF moved in as well. Overnight, a handful of Azeris became rich, while everyone else was crushed with debt.

One Zionist who became involved was the billionaire arms dealer Shoul Eisenberg, who had started the IRGUN terrorist group in Shanghai China during World War II. After WW II, IRGUN moved to Palestine. In 1993 Eisenberg spearheaded energy projects in the Caspian region and Central Asia.

Another player was the Israeli gangster Yossi Maimon, who oversaw a $2.5 billion pipeline deal from Turkmenistan to Turkey, and who boasted to the Wall Street Urinal that, “We are doing what U.S. and Israeli policy cannot do. Controlling the transport route is controlling the product.”

The main idea was to run an oil pipeline from Azerbaijan through two other Zionist collaborators, namely Georgia and Turkey, thus cutting Russia and Iran out of the picture. BP-Amoco built the pipeline, which today ends at the Turkish port of Ceyhan. Oil from Azerbaijan is loaded onto tankers. Sixty percent of it goes to Italy. Forty percent goes to Israel. The pipeline also helps Israel destabilize OPEC. With the Israelis present, no Arab state does significant trade with Azerbaijan.

Israel is all over Azerbaijan. Russian-Jewish gangsters own huge assets in Turkish-operated Azeri ventures. For example, Turkcell (a Turkish / Israeli company) is the largest cell phone service provider in Azerbaijan. The second largest provider is Bakcell, an Israeli company.

Mossad provides training for Azerbaijani security and intelligence services. Israeli bodyguards protect Azerbaijan’s president Ilham Aliyev when he travels abroad. Iran has an embassy in Baku (the capitol of Azerbaijan) and Israelis have that embassy under constant surveillance. Israelis also have electronic listening stations along the Caspian Sea and the Iranian border. Israeli firms built and guard the fence around the international airport at Baku. When Israeli-sponsored planes load up with heroin in Afghanistan, they stop in Azerbaijan en route to Turkey. Israel provides free training to Azeri doctors and farmers, and free schooling for Azeri scientists. Israel provides 80 percent of Azerbaijan’s weapons, with the USA provides the other 20 percent. Israel also has a large trade mission in Baku.

Of course the Azeri government has opposition, such as the Hizb ut-Tahrir movement, which is anti-Zionist, but Mossad keeps them under control.

Naturally when Bush began his war of terror, Azerbaijan provided troops for Iraq and Afghanistan. Azerbaijan also provides airbases that Bush will use when Israel orders him to strike Iran. Russia has bases in Ossetia and Abkhazia, near Azerbaijan.

Chechnya has oil, and is Muslim-Turko-Khazarist. Hence Israel supplies all of the Chechans’ money and arms through Azerbaijan. The supplies are funneled through Azerbaijan’s porous 185-mile border with Russia. Chechan warlords freely travel through Khazarist states of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Georgia. Some of those warlords get special training from Israelis. When the Zionist Jew Nikolas Sarozy stole the elections in France, one of his first pronouncements was to condemn Russia’s “human right abuses” in Chechnya.

AND YOUR POINT WOULD BE?

If Israel dominates Azerbaijan so completely, then why was it clever of Putin to suggest Zionist Azerbaijan for the missiles, instead of Zionist Poland or the Zionist Czech Republic?

It was clever because average Azeris have grown weary of Zionist tyranny, and the Muslim world has turned its back on Azerbaijan, especially after Israel’s 2006 rape of Lebanon. Azerbaijan’s reputation is so awfully Zionist that in early 2006 it was forced to curtail expansion of cooperation with Israel, and cancel plans to open an embassy in Israel.

Meanwhile Azeris are weary of the Iraq nightmare. Rich Azeris want to diversify their foreign policy portfolio, even by improving ties with Iran. Some continue to support Israel, while others support Islamic elements. Thus, Azerbaijan and Turkey are experiencing the same problems, which is not secular versus Islamic, but Zionist-controlled corporations versus native ones. As always, the Zionist gangsters became too greedy, and the government too corrupt.

Meanwhile Azeris turn a blind eye to Chechen rebels, but the rebels (with help from Mossad) liquidate any Azeri that displeases them. Azeris are tired of this.

Israel has not been able to dislodge Armenians from territory captured from Azerbaijan, and the Azeris are actually beginning to ask Russia for help.

China wants access to Azeri oil, and will pay to build pipelines, plus schools, roads, and so on, just as China pays in Africa. By contrast, the Zionists and their American servants rely on war, war, and more war.

In short, Putin’s suggestion of Azerbaijan for the missiles will vastly complicate the situation. Azerbaijan is not like Poland or the Czech Republic. For some reason -- or for no reason -- the missile base could be attacked. Chechans, or Azeris, or anyone else could bomb it, and blame it on the Armenians. Russia might blow it up and blame it on the Chechans. Israelis might blow it up and blame it on Iran.

Obviously the drunken chimp in the White House will turn Putin down. The missiles are meant to be a, “f**k you” symbol to Russia, but will have no political effect in Azerbaijan, since the world already says, “f**k you” to Azerbaijan.

Also the Missile Defense Agency would have to cede some control to Russia if the missiles were put on the Russian facility in Azerbaijan. Since the MDA is a giant scam, a theft, a money grab, its leaders are constantly frightened of exposure. Hence they think and act like Zionists. They are megalomaniacs.

The question is, how will Bush spin this? The American masses are easily managed, but Putin's offer has given more ammunition to Eastern European Gentiles that do not want the missils.

Notice how Putin played this. One day it’s, “Put those missile there, and we’ll nuke Poland.” The next day it’s, “Put them in Azerbaijan, and all of us will enjoy blissful peace.” The whole thing was a calculated move.

Since there is no logical way to counter Putin’s suggestion, Zionists are now attacking Putin in the blogosphere, asking why Russia is at the G8 summit at all.

We could laugh at the absurdity of it all, if the Zionist maggots were not blood-soaked psychopaths.

looking for truth - June 9, 2007 05:31 PM (GMT)
I was thinking that the G8 is full of puppets to overshadow the Bilderberg...the people who control the G8

alive and still talking - June 11, 2007 03:21 PM (GMT)
we are the puppets, they are the puppeteers, putin controls the G8

alive and still talking - August 3, 2007 04:22 AM (GMT)
PUTIN POWER YOUTH CAMPS--PLAY WITH GUNS AND MEET A SIGNIFICANT OTHER
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My Webpage <--------CHECK OUT THIS LINK
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MILITARY ENLISTED FEMALES IN THE CAMP DURING EARLY MORNING WARM-UP
This summer, some 10,000 Russians will head to a summer camp north of Moscow run by Nashi — "Ours" in Russian — a youth group supportive of President Vladimir Putin.
[July 30, 2007]

You have to ask yourself, is this a good thing? how many americans know how to shoot
a gun? without signing up for the military, russian youths are getting an introduction to
readiness using a very popular theme, co-ed summer camp, complete with an official
empowered to marry off couples.

PUTIN STRATEGY--
thus running the gammet on popularity with RUSSIAN youth, sparking interest in the military by playing with guns, and guaranteeing a healthy birthrate. all at the same time, all in a mid-summer night's dream

PHARAOH1133 - August 3, 2007 05:10 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jun 9 2007, 12:05 PM)
PUTIN POWER--DEVELOPING STORY OF A LITTLE DICTATOR

                      HE MAKES THE HEADLINES FREQUENTLY,

                BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO MEASURE HIS SUCCESS



OF THE MANY HEADLINES ON PUTIN,
the azerbaijan story was the first of many gets my attention, the story keeps getting better all the time, as if we have nothing to fear when this charismatic leader smiles

The following article was written by invitation from QRS...

Why is Bush obsessed with putting the missiles in Poland, and the radar in the Czech Republic?

Why did Putin object, and suggest Azerbaijan instead?

Is Zionism involved?

To get behind what's really going on, let’s examine this topic under the following headings…

1.The missiles
2.Poland and the Czech Republic
3.Azerbaijan

THE MISSILES

This issue is not about megatons; it’s about mega-bucks. The missiles themselves are irrelevant. They're junk. They've never worked, and never will. Bush, Putin, Israel, and everyone else involved know this. The rocket boosters are made right here in my town by Orbital Sciences Inc. under contract from Boeing. The kill vehicles are made at a Raytheon plant just south of me. Raytheon also makes the X-band radar that will be installed in the Czech Republic. TRW makes the tracking system (not the detection system). Lockheed makes the computers. Bechtel digs the silos. Fluor provides infrastructures. All these outfits share a budget of $10 billion each year, with Boeing leading the money grab.

The “missile shield” scam began during the Reagan era. Since then, weapons makers have milked the scam for over 100 billion dollars overall. There is even a Pentagon branch that oversees the theft. Today it’s called the Missile Defense Agency (MDA). Last month (May 2007) the MDA completed a shiny new headquarters building at the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama.

Under Rumsfeld, the Pentagon adopted a new procurement policy of “spiral development," which delighted the MDA and the missile defense industry. With “spiral development,” weapons makers no longer need to prove a system will work before the Pentagon will buy it. Instead, they cobble together a sexy new toy and trot it out to the field. Then they rake in billions of tax dollars in a never-ending attempt to make the toy work. All failures are blamed on outside factors, not on the junk system. In this game, profits depend on having a system that does NOT work. The more you fail, the more tax dollars you collect for continued testing and development. The airborne laser and other boondogles are part of the game. Meanwhile "national defense" is considered a quaint notion.

Eighteen of the junk missiles have been installed at Fort Greely, Alaska. Several more are at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Every test has been a failure, but has been faked or fudged to make the system appear viable. Whistleblowers come and go. Most have been terminated for trying to expose the scam.

In order to keep the theft going, the MDA must expand. It must have legitimacy. It must suck other countries into its game. Thus far, Japan has been the only nation willing to participate, since the Japanese defense industry is as greedy and corrupt as the American one is. MDA’s dream, however, has been to involve Europe.

POLAND AND THE CZECH REPUBLIC

The MDA knows its system is garbage, and that citizens oppose it whenever the truth gets out. Therefore the MDA needed European countries that have greedy, corrupt, and tyrannical governments. The logical first choice was Hungary, whose government is utterly owned and operated by Zionist Jew thugs. Hungarian ministers and bureaucrats spend almost as much time in Israel as they do in Hungary. Unfortunately the citizens of Hungary are so tired of Zionist control that they would have used explosives to sabotage the missile system.

England was a possibility under Blair, but Blair’s political fortunes were destroyed by the Iraq nightmare, and by Israel’s 2006 rape of Lebanon. When the British people found out about the MDA’s planned missile system, they objected strongly enough to kill the plan.

That left the two other countries whose citizens are completely under the Zionist heel: Poland and the Czech Republic. Poland’s government crawls with Jewish gangsters, some of which were kicked out of Russia. WUFYS readers know about militant Israeli tourists that defecate in Polish hotel beds during the “holocaust tours” and so on. The Zionists that control Poland are locked in a power struggle with Putin regarding oil and gas pipelines. They know the missiles are junk, but they want the missiles as a political symbol against Russia. Also the missiles will bring contacts with top-shelf weapons makers in the USA. Poland is Khazar Central for Europe. Of all nations in Europe, the Polish government has the closest relationship with the Khazar zio-cons of the Bush regime.

Putin knows all this. His objection to missiles in Poland concerns economics and oil politics. Missiles on Russia’s doorstep are like Soviet missiles on America’s doorstep in Cuba. The missiles are useless, but are nonetheless an insult, an effrontery, a symbolic "f**k you,” especially when it comes from Zionist gangsters in the Polish government. The Gentile citizens of Poland (mostly Catholic) do not want the missiles. The missiles will not bring any new jobs; they will just bring more corruption, more zio-con tyranny, and more threats of energy cut-offs from Russia.

The situation in the Czech Republic is more delicate. Its government is also under the Zionist yoke, but the Jews are not able to rule with an iron fist. Their margin of power is stable but slim. More importantly, Prague is an extremely expensive place to live. The distinction between urban dwellers and rural dwellers is dramatic. Rural dwellers are extremely nationalistic, yet highly educated. They don’t like being under the Zionist heel, but they can do little about it. They have, however, been protesting the ridiculous missile radar more and more vehemently.

None of this matters to Zionists or to their drunken puppet in the White House. Zionists commit whatever atrocities they like, since any objections are “anti-Semitic.” However Putin’s threat of retargeting his missiles was real, albeit theatrical. He let tensions escalate to the point where they threatened the entire G8 summit at Heiligendamm, Germany, and did not respond when the Bush-chimp stopped at Prague, en route to the summit, and said democracy had been “derailed” under Putin. Bush also met with the Jews that control the Czech government and told them to be patient. The Russian Constitution only allows a president to serve two consecutive terms, and this year is Putin’s last. The Czech Republic will have its radar. The Jews will have their “f**k you” symbol, if they will just wait a bit longer. The system won’t be finished until 2012 anyway.

Again, Putin is aware of all this. At the G8 summit, he surprised everyone by suggesting Azerbaijan as an alternate missile base. The missiles would be put on an old Soviet site that Russia continues to rent from Azerbaijan, thus allowing transparency and equal access to all. Since Bush claims that the missiles are against “rogue states,” why not have them in Azerbaijan, which is directly between Iran and Europe? The missiles would protect all of Europe, not just Poland and the east. Moreover, Azerbaijan is an eager participant in the “war on terror,” and its president, Ilham Aliyev, would welcome the missiles.

It was a PR masterstroke. Bush’s imps ran around in a panic, not knowing how to respond. Security advisor Stephen Hadley said he doubted the “geometry” would work. MDA spokesman Rick Lehner (Zionist Jew) said the missiles would be most effective in Europe, closer to the target, which is the exact opposite of the truth. Offensive missiles -- especially long-range ballistic ones -- are most vulnerable in their boost phase. Once they achieve semi-orbit, it’s game-over. (Remember, all U.S. tests of its system have been faked or fudged to make the junk system appear viable.)

When Bush turns down Putin’s offer, the American masses will buy the lies, but how will it look to the Gentile citizenry of Poland and the Czech Republic, who don’t want the missile system?

Yet even this is but the tip of the iceberg. To fully understand Putin’s cleverness, we must look closer at Azerbaijan.

AZERBAIJAN

Putin’s suggestion may seem surprising, since Azerbaijan is yet another country under the Zionist heel, despite being 96 percent Muslim (80 percent Shi’ite, 20 percent Sunni). Therefore what difference can it make if the missiles are in one Zionist country or another?

The difference is vast, though it may not seem so on the surface.

First, let’s examine Zionist control of Azerbaijan. When the USSR fell in 1991, various republics scrambled for territory, including Armenia, which finally saw a chance to be free from Russians, Turks, and Jews. Christian Armenia is the most anti-Zionist nation in Central Europe. Iran may seem anti-Zionist, but only because of continual threats from Zionists. Iran was the first Muslim nation to formally recognize Israel, and would gladly do business with Israel today, if Israel were not psychotic. Iran’s blood enemies are not Jews, but fundamentalist Sunni Arabs. Jews have always been a protected group in Iran and Azerbaijan.

In the post-Soviet power struggle, Armenia invaded territory known as the Nagorno-Karabakh region, which Azeris say is part of Azerbaijan. In 1992 a bloody war broke out between Armenians and Azeris. The Azeris share history and religion (Shi’ite Islam) with neighboring Iran, but they are ethnically and linguistically Turko-Khazars. Hence they appealed to Turkey for help. The Turkish government has long been a Zionist collaborator, and Israel was happy to get involved.

The Azeris got money and arms from Turkey and Israel. The Armenians got money, arms, and oil from Iran and Russia. Keep in mind that while Azerbaijan is mostly Shi’ite Muslim, Azerbaijan has friction with Iran. Almost 30 percent of Iran’s population is Azeri, and they do not like Iran’s government. As Turko-Khazars, they prefer a more secular government like Turkey’s.

The war continued for two years (1992-1994). Khazarist Turkey has always hated Christian Armenians (remember the 1915 genocide) and closed its border with Armenia during the war. The Armenians captured 20 percent of what was once Azerbaijan, forcing over a million Azeris to flee the area.

A stalemate set in, until new oil deposits were found in the Caspian Sea. Then the real games began -- games that will bring us back to Putin and the missiles, as well shall see below.

In the early 1990s, Armenian-Americans had a powerful lobby in Washington DC. The lobby got Congress to pass the Freedom Support Act in 1992, which promised aid to all the former Soviet republics except Azerbaijan. Armenia received over $1 billion in U.S. aid, while Azerbaijan got nothing.

Then everything changed when new oil deposits were found in the Caspian Sea. AIPAC crushed the Armenian lobby. Azerbaijan’s government became utterly corrupt. Israelis moved into Azerbaijan and took over. Azerbaijan had previously received help from Arabia through the Islamic Development Bank, but when the Israelis moved in, the Zionist World Bank and IMF moved in as well. Overnight, a handful of Azeris became rich, while everyone else was crushed with debt.

One Zionist who became involved was the billionaire arms dealer Shoul Eisenberg, who had started the IRGUN terrorist group in Shanghai China during World War II. After WW II, IRGUN moved to Palestine. In 1993 Eisenberg spearheaded energy projects in the Caspian region and Central Asia.

Another player was the Israeli gangster Yossi Maimon, who oversaw a $2.5 billion pipeline deal from Turkmenistan to Turkey, and who boasted to the Wall Street Urinal that, “We are doing what U.S. and Israeli policy cannot do. Controlling the transport route is controlling the product.”

The main idea was to run an oil pipeline from Azerbaijan through two other Zionist collaborators, namely Georgia and Turkey, thus cutting Russia and Iran out of the picture. BP-Amoco built the pipeline, which today ends at the Turkish port of Ceyhan. Oil from Azerbaijan is loaded onto tankers. Sixty percent of it goes to Italy. Forty percent goes to Israel. The pipeline also helps Israel destabilize OPEC. With the Israelis present, no Arab state does significant trade with Azerbaijan.

Israel is all over Azerbaijan. Russian-Jewish gangsters own huge assets in Turkish-operated Azeri ventures. For example, Turkcell (a Turkish / Israeli company) is the largest cell phone service provider in Azerbaijan. The second largest provider is Bakcell, an Israeli company.

Mossad provides training for Azerbaijani security and intelligence services. Israeli bodyguards protect Azerbaijan’s president Ilham Aliyev when he travels abroad. Iran has an embassy in Baku (the capitol of Azerbaijan) and Israelis have that embassy under constant surveillance. Israelis also have electronic listening stations along the Caspian Sea and the Iranian border. Israeli firms built and guard the fence around the international airport at Baku. When Israeli-sponsored planes load up with heroin in Afghanistan, they stop in Azerbaijan en route to Turkey. Israel provides free training to Azeri doctors and farmers, and free schooling for Azeri scientists. Israel provides 80 percent of Azerbaijan’s weapons, with the USA provides the other 20 percent. Israel also has a large trade mission in Baku.

Of course the Azeri government has opposition, such as the Hizb ut-Tahrir movement, which is anti-Zionist, but Mossad keeps them under control.

Naturally when Bush began his war of terror, Azerbaijan provided troops for Iraq and Afghanistan. Azerbaijan also provides airbases that Bush will use when Israel orders him to strike Iran. Russia has bases in Ossetia and Abkhazia, near Azerbaijan.

Chechnya has oil, and is Muslim-Turko-Khazarist. Hence Israel supplies all of the Chechans’ money and arms through Azerbaijan. The supplies are funneled through Azerbaijan’s porous 185-mile border with Russia. Chechan warlords freely travel through Khazarist states of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Georgia. Some of those warlords get special training from Israelis. When the Zionist Jew Nikolas Sarozy stole the elections in France, one of his first pronouncements was to condemn Russia’s “human right abuses” in Chechnya.

AND YOUR POINT WOULD BE?

If Israel dominates Azerbaijan so completely, then why was it clever of Putin to suggest Zionist Azerbaijan for the missiles, instead of Zionist Poland or the Zionist Czech Republic?

It was clever because average Azeris have grown weary of Zionist tyranny, and the Muslim world has turned its back on Azerbaijan, especially after Israel’s 2006 rape of Lebanon. Azerbaijan’s reputation is so awfully Zionist that in early 2006 it was forced to curtail expansion of cooperation with Israel, and cancel plans to open an embassy in Israel.

Meanwhile Azeris are weary of the Iraq nightmare. Rich Azeris want to diversify their foreign policy portfolio, even by improving ties with Iran. Some continue to support Israel, while others support Islamic elements. Thus, Azerbaijan and Turkey are experiencing the same problems, which is not secular versus Islamic, but Zionist-controlled corporations versus native ones. As always, the Zionist gangsters became too greedy, and the government too corrupt.

Meanwhile Azeris turn a blind eye to Chechen rebels, but the rebels (with help from Mossad) liquidate any Azeri that displeases them. Azeris are tired of this.

Israel has not been able to dislodge Armenians from territory captured from Azerbaijan, and the Azeris are actually beginning to ask Russia for help.

China wants access to Azeri oil, and will pay to build pipelines, plus schools, roads, and so on, just as China pays in Africa. By contrast, the Zionists and their American servants rely on war, war, and more war.

In short, Putin’s suggestion of Azerbaijan for the missiles will vastly complicate the situation. Azerbaijan is not like Poland or the Czech Republic. For some reason -- or for no reason -- the missile base could be attacked. Chechans, or Azeris, or anyone else could bomb it, and blame it on the Armenians. Russia might blow it up and blame it on the Chechans. Israelis might blow it up and blame it on Iran.

Obviously the drunken chimp in the White House will turn Putin down. The missiles are meant to be a, “f**k you” symbol to Russia, but will have no political effect in Azerbaijan, since the world already says, “f**k you” to Azerbaijan.

Also the Missile Defense Agency would have to cede some control to Russia if the missiles were put on the Russian facility in Azerbaijan. Since the MDA is a giant scam, a theft, a money grab, its leaders are constantly frightened of exposure. Hence they think and act like Zionists. They are megalomaniacs.

The question is, how will Bush spin this? The American masses are easily managed, but Putin's offer has given more ammunition to Eastern European Gentiles that do not want the missils.

Notice how Putin played this. One day it’s, “Put those missile there, and we’ll nuke Poland.” The next day it’s, “Put them in Azerbaijan, and all of us will enjoy blissful peace.” The whole thing was a calculated move.

Since there is no logical way to counter Putin’s suggestion, Zionists are now attacking Putin in the blogosphere, asking why Russia is at the G8 summit at all.

We could laugh at the absurdity of it all, if the Zionist maggots were not blood-soaked psychopaths.

I enjoy your sense of humor.
But as I can see, what you're saying is true.
Tell me why does iy seem Bush is so chummy with Putin, and so convinced that they (Russia) won't do something?
I seen him some time back riding in Bush's truck when he was at his texas ranch they looked like drinking buddies out for beer run to the nearest liquior store, what do you make of this?

alive and still talking - August 3, 2007 11:23 AM (GMT)
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QUOTE
enjoy your sense of humor.
But as I can see, what you're is true.
Tell me why does iy seem Bush is so chummy with Putin, and so convinced that they (Russia) won't do something?
I seen him some time back riding in Bush's truck when he was at his texas ranch they looked like drinking buddies out for beer run to the nearest liquior store, what do you make of this?

PUTIN SMILES ALOT BECAUSE HE HAS MANY REASONS TO SMILE...

the little monster didnt become a world leader in a communist country by being nice

he smiles--because he loves the free nuclear weapons

he smiles-- we elected a COMPLETE IDIOT, now PUTIN AND THE WORLD
thinks we really are IDIOTS,,, the fact that bush is still in the white house is living proof

he smiles-- we keep handing out fake paper money to fund a war, thus
bankrupting ourselves to world banks and yet we think we are a rich nation

he smiles-- we are STUPID enough to hand out $$$trillions to the enemy
handouts are what we are famous for

he smiles--loans from foreign investors, we no longer own this country
those who call in the note, really own it.

he smiles--our illusion of greatness is a constant source of entertainment for him

IF YOU WERE BEING ENTERTAINED BY A COMPLETE IDIOT WHO CALLS HIMSELF
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WOULDNT YOU SMILE TO KEEP FROM
BUSTING OUT LAUGHING????

PUTIN'S CHARISMATIC POWER OVER THE MASSES HAS BEEN UNDER-ESTIMATED
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feralmet - August 3, 2007 11:59 AM (GMT)
A&ST, your posts are always so long and thorough. Give the rest of us time to digest them!

Just a thought - do you have any skills at documentary making? If not, can you connect up with someone who does? Maybe someone from this forum.

I don't always come to the same conclusions as you, but that's the product of my own inevitable way of thinking, according to how I got here. We all got "here" (on this forum) via different pathways.

Although I have always been an avid reader, I have to admit that the power of the documentary film with a well reasoned maturely spoken narrative, is hard to beat.

Have you made documentaries? You are obviously a prolific writer..... so what's the next step? Can your talent be put to a better use? I have always envied Tarpley's ability to put an argument, and despair of ever remotely being that good.

But hey, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Just a thought....

Cheers mate

Chris, Australia

Hierosis - August 3, 2007 01:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Jun 11 2007, 03:21 PM)
we are the puppets, they are the puppeteers, putin controls the G8

This is one of the most ridiculous and uninformed pieces I've read in a while.

Putin CONTROLS the G8???? You do realize that Russia isn't even an approved member of the G7, right??? Additionally, the other 7 nationsin the G8( United States, Japan, Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Canada) all hold far more power than Russia could hope to regain.

alive and still talking - August 4, 2007 07:33 PM (GMT)
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This is one of the most ridiculous and uninformed pieces I've read in a while.



DONT TELL ME, you dont believe that many european countries dont look over their shoulders to see what RUSSIA THINKS,

the russians believe they are going to replace
THE UNITED STATES AS A WORLD LEADER
based on the premise that the american people
are STUPID enough to continue placing
a COMPLETE IDIOT in the white house

they dont expect the election of 2008
to be any different than the last several elections

HAVENT YOU HEARD ? THEY ARE DISPUTING WHO OWNS THE NORTH POLE

WITH CANADA????

EVEN AS WE SPEAK??????

wake up and smell the coffee, people :P

RUSSIA IN DISPUTE WITH CANADA FOR THE NORTH POLE
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A Russian NTV channel TV grab shows a front view of the Mir-1 mini-submarine with a Russian state flag prior to diving into the water of the Arctic Ocean. A Russian expedition planted the country's flag on the seabed under the North Pole on Thursday, capping a mission to claim the mineral riches of the Arctic and drawing ridicule from abroad.(AFP/NTV)
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# U.S., Canada not pleased by the Kremlin's planting its flag on the seafloor
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Article Launched: 08/04/2007 03:00:54 AM PDT

MANILA, Philippines -- Russia is guided by international law in its polar shelf probes, the country's foreign minister told a news conference Friday.

"When explorers reach an unexplored point, they leave flags there," Sergei Lavrov said, commenting on Thursday's probe into the North Pole shelf where Russian researchers left a flag. "No one is throwing flags around."

Canada, which has claimed part of the Arctic shelf since 1925, came down on Russia's expedition, saying Russia sets up shelf borders using 15th century methods. Ottawa said Russia's tactics resemble the Great Geographical Discoveries epoch and have nothing to do with modern politics.

Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told Canadian Television CTV: "Look, this isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say: 'We're claiming this territory.'"

Lavrov said the ownership of the shelf in the North Pole is defined on the basis of the United Nations Convention on Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

"As for the legal side of the matter, this expedition is part of important work being conducted on the basis of the Law of the Sea Convention," he said.

Russian explorers dove 4,200 meters (14,000 feet) below the North Pole in two mini-submarines Thursday, planting a titanium Russian flag on the seabed in a symbolic claim to a vast slice of apparently hydrocarbon-rich Arctic territory, which the country said is the continuation of its continental shelf.

THE UNITED STATES,

which planted its flag on the moon in 1969, also did not appreciate Russia's move to leave its flag on the Arctic Ocean floor.

"I'm not sure whether they put a metal flag, a rubber flag or a bed sheet on the ocean floor," Tom Casey, deputy State Department spokesman, told reporters. "Either way, it doesn't have any legal standing or effect on this claim. ... It's an issue that's going to be decided based on those technical merits, not on any kind of particular markers laid down."

Casey said the United States was skeptical about Russia's claim to 1.2 million square kilometers (about 460,000 square miles) of territory -- the underwater Lomonosov and Mendeleyev Ridges that cross the Pole -- but admitted the country was within its rights to pursue the claim.

Russia made a claim to the territory in 2001. The following year, a U.N. panel demanded more scientific evidence pending a decision.

Lavrov, speaking from the Philippines Thursday, said: "The goal of this expedition is not to stake Russia's claim, but to prove that our shelf spreads to the North Pole."

The minister said he hoped the expedition would "allow us to acquire additional scientific proof" of this claim.

Apart from being a publicity stunt, the more than eight-hour Arctic mission was designed to take soil, water and fauna samples on the ocean floor.

As climate change melts the polar ice, vast reserves of oil and gas believed to be under the seafloor are likely to become accessible in future decades.

alive and still talking - August 11, 2007 07:59 PM (GMT)
THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING, THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!
COLD WAR TACTICS TAKE ON A NEW TWIST
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RUSSIA-MILITARY/FLIGHTSRussian Bomber Jets Resume Cold War SortiesRussia`s strategic bombers have resumed their Cold War practice of flying long-haul missions to areas patrolled by NATO and US.
Reuters Russia's strategic bombers have resumed Cold War-style long-haul missions to areas patrolled by NATO and the United States, top generals said on Thursday.

A Russian bomber flew over a U.S. naval base on the Pacific island of Guam on Wednesday and "exchanged smiles" with U.S. pilots who had scrambled to track it, said Major-General Pavel Androsov, head of long-range aviation in the Russian air force.

"It has always been the tradition of our long-range aviation to fly far into the ocean, to meet (U.S.) aircraft carriers and greet (U.S. pilots) visually," Androsov told a news conference.

"Yesterday we revived this tradition, and two of our young crews paid a visit to the area of the (U.S. Pacific Naval Activities) base of Guam," he said.

President Vladimir Putin has sought to make Russia more assertive in the world. Putin has boosted defence spending and sought to raise morale in the armed forces, which were starved of funding following the fall of the Soviet Union.

Androsov said the sortie by the two turboprop Tu-95MS bombers, from a base near Blagoveshchensk in the Far East, had lasted for 13 hours. The Tu-95, codenamed "Bear" by NATO, is Russia's Cold War icon and may stay in service until 2040.

"I think the result was good. We met our colleagues -- fighter jet pilots from (U.S.) aircraft carriers. We exchanged smiles and returned home," Androsov said.

Ivan Safranchuk, Moscow office director of the Washington-based World Security Institute, said he saw nothing extraordinary in Moscow sending its bombers around the globe. "This practice as such never stopped, it was only scaled down because there was less cash available for that," he said.

"It doesn't cost much to flex your muscles ... You can burn fuel flying over your own land or you can do it flying somewhere like Guam, in which case political dividends will be higher."

COLD WAR CAT-AND-MOUSE

The bombers give Russia the capability of launching a devastating nuclear strike even if the nuclear arsenals on its own territory are wiped out.

During the Cold War, they played elaborate airborne games of cat-and-mouse with Western air forces.

Lieutenant-General Igor Khvorov, air forces chief of staff, said the West would have to come to terms with Russia asserting its geopolitical presence. "But I don't see anything unusual, this is business as usual," he said.

The generals said under Putin long-range aviation was no longer in need of fuel, enjoyed better maintenance and much higher wages, a far cry from the 1990s when many pilots were practically grounded because there was no money to buy fuel.

The generals quipped that part of the funding boost was thanks to a five-hour sortie Putin once flew as part of a crew on a supersonic Tupolev Tu-160 strategic bomber, known as the "White Swan" in Russia and codenamed "Blackjack" by NATO.

The current state of Russia's economy, which is booming for the eighth year in a row, has allowed Russia to finance such flights, said Safranchuk from the World Security Institute.

"Maintenance and training are not the most expensive budget items of modern armies. Purchases of new weapons really are."
Published: August 09, 2007 15:23h

Russian bombers fly to Guam in maneuvers
By MIKE ECKEL, Associated Press Writer
Thu Aug 9, 11:30 AM ET

MOSCOW - Russian bombers have flown to the island of Guam — home to a major U.S. military base — for the first time since the Cold War in an exercise intended to show the Kremlin's resurgent military power, an air force general said Thursday.

Two Tu-95 bombers reached Guam, a U.S. territory, this week, and their crews smiled at the pilots of the U.S. fighter jets that scrambled to intercept them, said Maj. Gen. Pavel Androsov.

"Whenever we saw U.S. planes during our flights over the ocean, we greeted them," Androsov said. "On Wednesday, we renewed the tradition when our young pilots flew by Guam in two planes. We exchanged smiles with our counterparts who flew up from a U.S. carrier and returned home."

The flight to the Pacific island was part of a three-day exercise that saw Russian strategic bombers making 40 sorties and launching eight cruise missiles, said Androsov, who commands Russia's long-range bomber force.

The incident coincided with a weeklong exercise by the U.S. military off Guam involving more than 22,000 troops, dozens of ships and hundreds of aircraft. U.S. officials have said that the war games, which began Tuesday, were not connected in any way to world events or targeted at any country.

During the Cold War, Soviet bombers routinely flew far over the Arctic, Atlantic and Pacific oceans — the areas from where they would launch nuclear-tipped cruise missiles at the United States in case of war. The maneuvers came to a halt after the post-Soviet economic meltdown, but booming oil prices have allowed Russia to pour money into military budgets.

The Kremlin also has taken an increasingly assertive posture on the international stage amid increasingly chilly relations with the United States and NATO.

In recent years, the military has sent strategic bombers to areas off Norway and Iceland, as well as the regions across the Bering Strait from Alaska. Last month, two Russian Tu-95 bombers briefly entered British airspace but turned back after British fighter jets intercepted them. Norwegian F-16s were also scrambled when two Tu-95s headed south along the Norwegian coast in international airspace.

Russia's top naval officer, meanwhile, said earlier this month that the navy could revive a permanent presence in the Mediterranean, as in Soviet times.

alive and still talking - August 11, 2007 08:59 PM (GMT)
ALARM OVER AFGHANISTAN
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Concerning American presence

After Russia supported American forces in its attack on Afghanistan, and talked countries in the Ural mountain area, and Central Asia to offer their help to the United States. Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Kirgizstan opened their territory to the American forces. Russia soon found itself surrounded by American forces, and started lobbying against the American presence in its “backyard”, accusing Washington of wanting to match Russia’s influence in the region.

The alarm bells rang when Russia noticed that the American tents were being replaced by concrete buildings in Central Asia, confirming the American plans of staying in the region. Moscow answered by promoting its military power, and opening military bases in Kirgizstan and Tadzhikistan. With this, Russia opened its first military bases outside Russia since the end of the cold war, and the break-up of the Soviet Union.

The American presence in Central Asian countries was strongly criticised by the international community, the local inhabitants, and the opposition in exile. Support from dictator regimes in the region provoked the anti-American sentiment of the local population. After the massacre in Andijan in 2005, the American government condemned the Uzbekistan government, and returned to their old story about promoting human rights under the pressure of the international community. With this, Uzbekistan turned back to “mother Russia”, and other countries followed them.

Arms race?

After Central Asia, the arms race started in Europe. Russia and the United States deny the existence of an arms race, and accuse one another of starting a Cold War.

- We hope that Russia will define its role in the world in the way which will enable a united partnership, and not go back to a world order defined by balancing forces, and checking American foreign politics moves – said the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, David Kramer for the Heritage Foundation.

The United States systematically rejects allegations that they want to stop the strengthening of Russian influence.

At the same time, Bush’s advisors are all experts from the Cold War period.

Steven Fried, Nicholas Burns, Robert Joseph and until recently Robert Zoellick are strategists from the Cold War.

Their tactics have not changed. Support for dictator regimes, and attempting to involve themselves in internal political structures, and encouraging the fall of unwanted regimes is reminiscent of the Cold war period. However, the rules of the game have changed. Whilst during the Cold War, Washington was trying to stop the spread of Communism, now Moscow is trying to stop the domino effect of “flower and colour revolutions” – the reorientation of former Soviet republics towards the West.

Battle for the control of energy sources

Analysts have opposite thoughts about the start of a new Cold War. The editor of the magazine Jane's Strategic Weapons Systems, Duncan Lennox, claims that the arms race can not be considered to be realistic.

- I think that this (missile shield) is only the continuation of the skirmishes between Russia and the United States which has been lasting for years – said Lennox for Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

The independent Moscow military analyst, Pavel Felgenhauer, claims that the Cold War happened between to more or less equal blocks, which is not the case now.

- Russia is a lot smaller than the Soviet Union of that time. There is no Warsaw pact. There is no ability to race against the West, which has a population eight times larger, and whose economy is 100 times bigger than the Russian – said Felgenhauer in a conversation with RFE/RL.

Russia bases its current strength on its rich energy resources, and the dependence of other nations on its manufacture and export of oil and gas. The aim and prey of today’s geo-strategical “games” is the control and influence over regions rich in energy. This is far from any mutually assured destruction.

alive and still talking - August 12, 2007 04:18 PM (GMT)

alive and still talking - August 15, 2007 03:42 AM (GMT)
BOMB DERAILS RUSSIAN TRAIN --WHO DUNNIT ?
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crater was reportedly found under the ninth carriage of the derailed train [Reuters]


Russian authourities have launched a terrorism investigation after a train derailment, said to have been caused by an "explosive deivce", injured about 60 people.

Authorities on Tueday drew up composite sketches of two suspects and that the derailment seemed to have been caused by an "explosive device".




The Nevsky Express was believed to have been carrying about 215 passengers and 20 crew members at the time of the derailment.

"The train accident was caused by a homemade explosive device," Sergei Bednichenko, chief prosecutor for Russia's North West district, told Channel One television.






"A criminal case has been opened under article 205, clause 3, which is terrorism."

Loud bang

The derailment occurred around 9:30pm (1730 GMT) near Malaya Vishera in Novgorod province, about 500km northwest of Moscow.

The train's driver heard a "loud bang" from underneath the locomotive immediately before the incident happened, Alexander Pirkov, an adviser to Russian Railways' senior executive, said in televised comments late on Monday.

A local police source told RIA Novosti news agency that "a bomb equivalent to two kilogrammes of TNT exploded on the rails".

Jonah Hull, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Moscow, said: "There are growing fears here that this was an act of organised terrorism. To that end, the deputy prosecutor-general spoke to journalists at the scene earlier today and pointed out that terrorism was just one of a number of possibilities being considered.

"They'll need to be looking at the possibility, also, that if this wasn't an organised act of terrorism, it may have been some private act of criminality."

Chechen factor

There was no indication of who may have planted the bomb, but groups fighting against the Russian government in Chechnya have carried out attacks in the past.

The Interfax news agency, citing an unnamed law-enforcement official, said investigators had found a crater under the train's ninth carriage.


"We heard two explosions, then the
train put on
the brakes suddenly"

Conductor
A conductor on the train showed Reuters news agency a video on his telephone of a crater about two metres across on a bridge the train had just crossed.

"We heard two explosions, then the train put on the brakes suddenly," one conductor, who did not want to be identified, said.

"The train shook. A panic started.

"We smashed out the glass and helped the passengers out ... The worst damage was in the restaurant car. That is where most of the casualties were."

"The train's team acted courageously in this critical situation, and thanks to their quick, precise and well-coordinated actions the accident's consequences for the passengers were reduced to a minimum," a Russian Railways statement said.

All traffic along the Moscow-St Petersburg route - one of the busiest for the Russian Railways network and popular with foreign tourists - was halted.

castrix the defiant - August 15, 2007 10:39 AM (GMT)
About you’re original post about the Zionist who control Europe,
Forgive me for seeming like a dumb limmey but who are these Zionist guys.

Also how do think we feel in europe, considering that by 2015 all our oil and gas
will be supplied by the Russians. In fact it is safe to say that all Russia has done to regain it's dominance over it's former satillite states is to replace the tanks and nukes, with oli and gas.

Not only that, but it looks like by 2015 the russians will have influence of all of europe as they are supplying as west a germany already.

alive and still talking - August 15, 2007 08:03 PM (GMT)
this post was started to reveal what is going on in the cold war struggle for
fossil fuel. without fossil fuel the various military machines out there would
die.

the current trend of scramble for real estate in the polar region , africa, and the middle east would indicate that we have two emerging powers that may someday
overtake the U.S. as leader of the world powers.

since we do not employ slave labor to accompish these goals, they are rapidly gaining momentum. look up "rise and fall of an empire" in investigate 911
we are making the exact same mistakes as the ancient romans did thousands of
years ago

alive and still talking - August 16, 2007 02:49 AM (GMT)
PUTIN BARES HIS CHEST FOR PHOTO OP-- TO RISE UP THE POPULARITY LADDER
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As presidential portraits go, it's a little on the informal side.

Vladimir Putin poses stripped to the waist, fishing rod in hand, in a boat on a Siberian river.

The Russian leader has been worrying Western leaders by flexing his political muscles. But this week, the 54-year-old former KGB officer and fitness nut was showing off the real thing.

Wearing only combat trousers tied roughly at the waist, a camouflage hat and army-style boots, Putin displayed his usual ice-cold expression as he waited for the fish to bite on the Yenisei River on both Monday and Wednesday.

Putin is playing host to Prince Albert of Monaco, a thank you for the latter's support of Russia's successful bid for the 2014 Winter Olympics.

alive and still talking - August 17, 2007 09:45 AM (GMT)
PUTIN LAUNCHES CAMPAIGN TO CLAIM INTERNATIONAL TERRITORY FOR RUSSIA
By Paul Reynolds
World Affairs correspondent, BBC News website
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The Russians are leading a new "gold rush" in the high north, with a bold attempt to assert a claim to oil, gas and mineral rights over large parts of the Arctic Ocean up to the North Pole.


New "goldminer": Artur Chilingarov

Russia's most famous explorer, Artur Chilingarov, complete with nautical beard, led the expedition to plant the Russian flag in a capsule on the ocean seabed under the pole itself.


"The Arctic is Russian," Chilingarov said earlier. "We must prove the North Pole is an extension of the Russian coastal shelf."

Russia is claiming that an underwater mountain known as the Lomonosov Ridge is actually an extension of the Russian landmass.

This, it argues, justifies its claim to a triangular area up to the pole, giving it rights under the United Nations Law of the Sea Convention.

Under Article 76 of the convention, a state can claim a 200 nautical mile exclusive zone and beyond that up to 150 nautical miles of rights on the seabed. The baseline from which these distances are measured depends on where the continental shelf ends.


See a detailed map of the region
Russia lodged a formal claim in 2001 but the UN's Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf told it to resubmit the claim. The flag-planting can be seen as a symbolic gesture in support.



At the same time, other states are acting to protect their interests in the Arctic. Canada is planning to build up to eight new patrol ships and the US Congress is considering a proposal to build two new heavy polar ships.


The rush for the Arctic has become more frenzied because of the melting of parts of the polar ice cap, which will allow easier exploration, and by the urgent need for new sources of oil and gas. A new sense of nationalism is also evident in Russia.


Shaded area on Russian map shows claim up to North Pole


The ice thaw is predicted by a team of international researchers whose Arctic Climate Impact Assessment suggested in 2004 that the summer ice cap could melt completely before the end of this century because of global warming.

If the ice retreats, it could open up new shipping routes and new areas where natural resources could be exploited.


The US Geological Survey estimates that a quarter of the world's undiscovered energy resources lies in Arctic areas.

At the moment, nobody's shelf extends up to the North Pole so there is an international area around the Pole administered by the International Seabed Authority from Kingston, Jamaica.

But quite apart from the Russian claim there are multiple other disputes.

The US and Canada argue over rights in the North-west Passage, Norway and Russia differ over the Barents Sea, Canada and Denmark are competing over a small island off Greenland, the Russian parliament is refusing to ratify an agreement with the US over the Bering Sea and Denmark is claiming the North Pole itself.



North Pole solutions


The five countries involved are considering two other potential ways of sharing the region, in which all the sea would be divided between them.

The "median line method", supported by Canada and Denmark, would divide the Arctic waters between countries according to their length of nearest coastline. This would give Denmark the Pole itself but Canada would gain as well.

The "sector method" would take the North Pole as the centre and draw lines south along longitudes. This would penalise Canada but Norway and, to a lesser extent, Russia, would gain.

One major problem is that the United States has not ratified the 1982 UN convention, largely because senators did not want to have international restrictions placed on American actions.

However, in May 2007, Senator Richard Lugar, a senior Republican, pleaded for ratification in the light of the Russian moves, saying that an American voice was needed at the negotiating table.

alive and still talking - August 17, 2007 03:48 PM (GMT)
CHAVEZ RISES TO POWER AGAINST THE UNITED STATES WITH THE HELP OF PUTIN
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THE NEW BLOC AGAINST THE UNITED STATES

alive and still talking - August 17, 2007 03:55 PM (GMT)
NEWS REPORT FROM ANOTHER FORUM
QUOTE
Here is the latest information on the Russian Hostage situation from one of the few news sources I have come to trust:

"More evidence has surfaced this week as survivors from the Beslan hostage crisis have begun giving interviews and telling their stories. Much of what is coming out now casts doubt on the official version blaming Chechen rebels. I’ll lay out the evidence that points to agent provocateurs (under Russian control) aiming to justify further intervention in Chechnya and discredit the Chechen freedom fighters:

1) One of the survivors overheard the terrorists telling a caller, "Don’t talk Chechen to us. Speak Russian!"

2) One Russian newspaper carried the story of a leak that said electronic surveillance of hijacker conversations pointed to control outside of Chechnya

3) One of the attack organizers was allegedly a former policeman who disappeared six years ago. Police have been implicated in allowing Chechen rebels free passage through checkpoints. Were they operating independently or under higher authority?

4) According to Interfax, Deputy Prosecutor General Sergei Fridinsky detailed the number of hostage takers (32) and said that 30 bodies were found amid the dead. He also said that the group's composition was international, and included Chechens, Ingush, Kazakhs, Arabs and Slavs.

5) One witness said he overheard a heated argument between the leader and two Chechens. The two Chechens were protesting over what the leader was going to do to the hostages (blow them all up). The two protestors were shot dead.

6) The Russian authorities seriously impeded the work of journalists during the Beslan school siege, drugging one Russian correspondent, Anna Politkovskaya, on the plane en route, giving misleading information to others, and sometimes impeding access to the hostage site. Journalist Andrei Babitsky was detained at Vnukovo airport on unspecified charges. Another journalist from Georgia, Nana Lezhava claims drugs were put in her coffee, causing her to be temporarily incapacitated."

Excerpt from "World Affairs Brief" by Joel Skousen. http://www.joelskousen.com

(please include the source if you forward or post this information elsewhere!)

alive and still talking - August 17, 2007 04:05 PM (GMT)
PUTIN VOWS TO STRIKE TERRORISTS; WARLORD ADMITS SCHOOL SIEGE

President Vladimir Putin said Friday that Russia is "seriously preparing" for pre-emptive strikes against terrorists, as Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev claimed responsibility for a school hostage-taking and other attacks that have claimed more than 430 lives.
My Webpage

alive and still talking - August 18, 2007 10:53 PM (GMT)
Interactive Feature: Scramble for the Arctic
Published: August 16 2007 17:47 | Last updated: August 16 2007 17:47


With up to a quarter of the world’s undiscovered oil and gas resources believed to be in the Arctic, the stakes are high for the five countries making claims to the area. The international territorial dispute in the Arctic most recently came to a head when Russia planted a titanium flag on the seabed underneath the North Pole.

http://media.ft.com/cms/df92db46-4c19-11dc...000779fd2ac.swf

PHARAOH1133 - August 19, 2007 01:01 AM (GMT)
What form of Government do you support?
Do you think they are trying to merge the people of USSR with USA, but are having problems deciding which form of government works best?

alive and still talking - August 19, 2007 01:06 AM (GMT)
the next war will be over territory at the north pole because over
1/4 the energy reserves lay virtually untapped, and half of that is
already in USSR territory

by virtue of that fact alone, they are destined to advance ahead of
us given they continue to keep men like putin in power

stating facts, not wishing a thing one way or the other,

just an observer. just because someone reports an ugly truth
it does not mean they are happy about it, important to make
people aware, did you watch the link ?

Rei Murasame - August 19, 2007 01:07 AM (GMT)
I'll now echo Pharaoh's question.

What form of Government do you support?

alive and still talking - August 19, 2007 02:26 AM (GMT)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

alive and still talking - August 19, 2007 02:30 AM (GMT)
pentagon video
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Rei Murasame - August 19, 2007 02:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Aug 18 2007, 10:26 PM)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

Yet again you prove yourself to be a socialist piece of sub-human filth.

That's all I wanted to know, "Democrat". Enjoy voting for one of those NWO horses in the rigged Democrat lineup.

Will you be choosing sHillary, or Odamna?

jfk - August 19, 2007 03:01 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Aug 18 2007, 10:34 PM)
Yet again you prove yourself to be a socialist piece of sub-human filth.

user posted image

André - August 19, 2007 04:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Aug 19 2007, 02:34 AM)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Aug 18 2007, 10:26 PM)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

Yet again you prove yourself to be a socialist piece of sub-human filth.

That's all I wanted to know, "Democrat". Enjoy voting for one of those NWO horses in the rigged Democrat lineup.

Will you be choosing sHillary, or Odamna?

''Noble'' warrior priestess :rolleyes:


What does it take to ban someone on this forum, I suggest we should all report this member ! <_<

PHARAOH1133 - August 19, 2007 05:01 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Aug 18 2007, 09:26 PM)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

Can you explain to me what you think of this link ?
Link : http://www.hourofthetime.com/soccon.htm

PHARAOH1133 - August 19, 2007 05:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (André @ Aug 18 2007, 11:52 PM)
QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Aug 19 2007, 02:34 AM)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Aug 18 2007, 10:26 PM)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

Yet again you prove yourself to be a socialist piece of sub-human filth.

That's all I wanted to know, "Democrat". Enjoy voting for one of those NWO horses in the rigged Democrat lineup.

Will you be choosing sHillary, or Odamna?

''Noble'' warrior priestess :rolleyes:


What does it take to ban someone on this forum, I suggest we should all report this member ! <_<

Why we are only debating issues, with a little bit of enthusiasm, and with equally balanced vocabulary, were you just strolling by and decided to put your two cents worth in?

André - August 19, 2007 05:10 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (PHARAOH1133 @ Aug 19 2007, 05:01 AM)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Aug 18 2007, 09:26 PM)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

Can you explain to me what you think of this link ?
Link : http://www.hourofthetime.com/soccon.htm



Don't believe everything you read...

PHARAOH1133 - August 19, 2007 05:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (André @ Aug 19 2007, 12:10 AM)
QUOTE (PHARAOH1133 @ Aug 19 2007, 05:01 AM)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Aug 18 2007, 09:26 PM)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

Can you explain to me what you think of this link ?
Link : http://www.hourofthetime.com/soccon.htm



Don't believe everything you read...

What or whom, shall we believe then?
Do you have any good links, topics, etc.. etc.. that you want to talk about?

André - August 19, 2007 05:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (PHARAOH1133 @ Aug 19 2007, 05:08 AM)
QUOTE (André @ Aug 18 2007, 11:52 PM)
QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Aug 19 2007, 02:34 AM)
QUOTE (alive and still talking @ Aug 18 2007, 10:26 PM)
the democrats, I think you are here looking for putin's topless pic :)

Yet again you prove yourself to be a socialist piece of sub-human filth.

That's all I wanted to know, "Democrat". Enjoy voting for one of those NWO horses in the rigged Democrat lineup.

Will you be choosing sHillary, or Odamna?

''Noble'' warrior priestess :rolleyes:


What does it take to ban someone on this forum, I suggest we should all report this member ! <_<

Why we are only debating issues, with a little bit of enthusiasm, and with equally balanced vocabulary, were you just strolling by and decided to put your two cents worth in?

If that's debating the issues, I wonder what it is when you start to insult and smear people, obviously there are some people who are here only to disrupt this forum and provoke divisions among it's members.


I wonder why...? :ph43r:

IVXX - August 19, 2007 05:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Aug 18 2007, 09:34 PM)
Yet again you prove yourself to be a socialist piece of sub-human filth.

Rei, consider yourself warned.

Michal - August 19, 2007 10:16 AM (GMT)
Sorry guys. I come from the neighboring country to Russia and must say I have a little different view on it, especially to the one presented by alive and still talking. First, if American carriers are all around the World it is OK but if Putin goes back to his old practice (Russian bombers all around the oceans) this is not OK – why? That was the question Putin also asked recently. From my point of view Putin consequently tries to bring back the old might of Soviet Union and get his country back to the big players club. The part of the big player feature is a military might which you have noted – and this is OK but what you have not noted is that behind those activities there is a very very hard economical work to make Russia strong economically.

As a summary I would say Putin had a few sins (probably as most of the politicians) but generally I think he is a good man, just trying to bring back the might of his country.

You are Americans and you are happy of USA being one of the World leaders. The same way Russian public is proud of their country and leader because of what he is doing.

Rei Murasame - August 19, 2007 10:31 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (IVXX @ Aug 19 2007, 01:23 AM)
QUOTE (Rei Murasame @ Aug 18 2007, 09:34 PM)
Yet again you prove yourself to be a socialist piece of sub-human filth.

Rei, consider yourself warned.

It was worth it. Besides, one warning must be nothing compared to how many my wanna-be 'adversaries' have for their incessant sexist remarks.

datman - August 19, 2007 10:57 AM (GMT)
alive and still talking have you ever thought about doing talk radio? you are amazing. How do you find the time to research all this and then type it all out. Shit I can't even read it all before my wife is yelling at me.

if you were on talk radio I would make time to tune in.

sorry I can't comment on your post

Rei Murasame - August 19, 2007 11:14 AM (GMT)
AaST doesn't have the time to 'reasearch all this and type it out', because what's he's doing is actually copy & pasting from another source without crediting it.

Rei Murasame - August 19, 2007 11:19 AM (GMT)
And in 3 minutes on Google, I have found his unnamed source:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2018

I wouldn't describe what AaST does as 'amazing'... I'm more inclined to use a word like say, 'hackery', or 'disingenuity', or perhaps, 'plagarism'.




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