Yesterday I watched this talk by Peter Dale Scott about the JFK/911 links and I found it very interesting, I made this small summary of the main common facts between 9/11 and the JFK case, almost half is taken by the lecture, the other is made by me -_-°.

notes:
-sorry for the bad grammar and possible errors, feel free to discuss what's wrong)
-LHO=Lee Harvey Oswald, UBL=Usama Bin Laden


- ability to immediately (literally within minutes from the attack) enstablish a guilty party
JFK: LHO (a comunist, with links to soviet and cuban movement)
911: hijacker list (with biographies and ID photos) and UBL connection

- media consense
JFK: media and public opinion refused any other possibility or government involvement as higly unpatriotic
911: media and public opinion refused any other possibility or government involvement as higly unpatriotic (Bush specifically said to "not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories about 911")

- exclusion of other possibility
JFK: starting point for the commission was just to validate the official story
911: starting point for Keane-Zelickow, NIST and FEMA commission was just to validate the official story, and they did, ignoring evidences/witnesses and distorting facts

- large-scale defense disservice
JFK: motorcade was highly unsecured, Limousine capotte was removed, buildings unsecured
911: national-scale Pentagon wargame scenario, no scrambled jets (just for Flight 93)

- both secret service blamed in advance ignored the warnings

And other coincidence I found, not mentioned by Peter Dale Scott:

- another country was blamed
JFK: Castro and Cuba, communists
911: Afghanistan, Iraq

- planted evidences
JFK: planted shotgun, rounds, bullets, fake LHO picture
911: planted hijackers IDs, planted Pentagon debris, Shankville debris, fake UBL video

- both commissions ignored witnesses
JFK: multiple shots heard, smoke and flashes seen, people running (real snipers), suspicious people seen with sniper shotgun on a van day before, many more
911: multiple explosions heard by lot of people, high pitch sound (like a missile) heard near the Pentagon, Norman Minetta testified Cheney non-shot down order in the Pentagon bunker and many more

- unscientific explanations
JFK: the magic bullet theory, one lone gunman, inconsistent timing for a (very bad) shotgun and many many more
911: inconsistent Pentagon hole, towers explosive nature of collapse at free fall speed, fire melted steel, pancake theory, melted steel burning for months at GZ, Shankville hole, flight U93 phone talks, WTC7 demolition, and many many more

But the government are denying oswalds links to the CIA. They say he was a lone nut. So its not a false flag. It was simply a coup d'etat with oswald as the patsy

I can't give you any source for that but it's a well known fact the CIA had files about him before the assasination (and a very complete biography), not to mention the planted evidences, or the fake LIFE picture:



Yep probably I was wrong, is not a clear FFO, but the parallel with the 911 is interesting.

I agree he was in the CIA but I dont understand why the government didnt pin it on cubans. They wanted another excuse to invade and this gave them the opportunity after northwoods was rejected.

This photo in life magazine, Jim Marrs found in some of the investigation records.

Its a manufactured photo made in a photo lab with negatives and cutouts.

"I agree he was in the CIA but I dont understand why the government didnt pin it on cubans. They wanted another excuse to invade and this gave them the opportunity after northwoods was rejected. "

I think after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, they simply gave up on Cuba because the Soviets were obviously going to get in behind Cuba. & the war mongers just wanted JFK out of the way, so they could go into Vietnam.
I wouldn't really call the assassination a false flag, because it wasn't pinned on any particular grouping as a pretext for declaring a war against.

Pardon me, while I'll just go over the halftruths and lies in your document...

What's weird about that? LHO was seen running from the crimescene, and they had the flight manifests for the flights on 911? It would be an utterly incompetent law enforcement operation, if they couldn't immediately deduce that it was probably Al Qaeda who did the attacks...

No, that's utter BS, and if you know anything about 9/11 you should know this. That story has been disproved a long time ago.

Which there is a perfectly logical explanation for... What do you think will happen, when thousands of people try to call the same numbers at the same time? If you're guessing busy signals or no signal, you're right.

Ehh, yeah! Sure! Do you have any sources on that, that don't come from somebody trying to make a quick buck of a conspiracy video?

What are you smoking? Of course the jets were scrambled...

Don't kid yourself... JFK wanted to prop up the South Vietnamese regime just as much as Johnson did...

And this is just part one...

Ahh yes, the fake LIFE picture... Care to explain how come it was Marina Oswald that found it? Was she "in on it", or did she fabricate it herself?

Of al the half-assed pseudo evidence I've read about the JFK assassination, the "fake" picture takes the top spot. :rolleyes:

That's something common in skeptics vs alternative-supporters discussions:

say... you link a video or a document (and I'm talking of dozen of pages, hours of conferences), you find interesting, then you write your opinion, generally a positive feedback about it and you expect other people to write comments about the same video/document you linked trying to make a discussion. You start to see some replies and you see a skeptic's reply. Then you ask the skeptic, did you see the video? And the reply is always obviously no, often followed by a comment like:
-I don't believe in this stuff
-who's the guy doing the conference, I never heard his name
-why should I trust/care/lose my time with it
-it's just a theory
<_<
I hope it's clear what I'm saying, you cannot say this is bullshit, this is obvious, this is blahblah to everything without documenting yourself.


PS
I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer to all your 'quotes', mostly because most of the people in this forum already know it (most of them are well known facts appeared in the - not joking - mainstream media), and it wasn't my goal to make a head-to-head discussion about single evidences of both cases.

No they're not. An example: The story about Osama meeting a CIA agent in a hospital was retracted.

Are you aware of that, or do you simply choose to ignore it, because it doesn't fit your belief about what happened?

You're really doing a disservice to the truth movement, by repeating falsehoods and twisted facts. It ruins any credibility that the truth movement might have.
Fool me once, and all of that.

I didn't read that thing, ok I was wrong. I made a huge edit to the whole post, but the strongest point are still there. Bad science explanation in primis.

Could you give me the link to the retraction please ? last time i heard the daily Le Figaro in which the story was reorted, were standing by there report.

The major reason JFK was killed. He was going to shut down the Federal Reserve.

People who don't believe the JFK assassination had a conspiracy behind it is either blind or retarded (or both). Although there are various theories about it, believing that a single bullet stayed in the air, changing directions 6 times and causing 6 wounds is obviously ignorant. 9/11 has its holes, but COME ON. How can you not believe this. And as for the CIA meeting with UBL, i'm pretty sure that has been retracted. Here are some other similarites between 9/11 and JFK:

JFK: Limo is cleaned before it is investigated
911: Wreckage fro GZ is exported b4 people can look at it

JFK: Used to go to war in Vietnam
911: Used to go to war in Iraq