Title: Paralells
Description: Ideas that sound familiar....
Natalilly - April 3, 2005 03:07 PM (GMT)
Plagirism's the soul of a great artist, the ability to take one idea and make it fit your idea of perfection for it.
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a few paralells in DragonBooster? I am SO not saying it's a bad thing, quite the opposite, but I find it really interesting....
I mean the main one is the Arthurian legend context (this one I read somewhere, I'm kicking mysef for not noticing it...) Artha Penn as Arthur Penndragon, Lance in Lancelott, his most trusted of knights and even Moordryd has a place in Mordred LeFay, Arthur's son/nephew and enemy.
The one I DID notice *hides* please don't eat me... is the Draco and Lucius Malfoy thing happening with Moordryd and Word. There are big gaps, like Mordryd most certainly doesn't hero worship his Pa, but they have very similar behavior patterns, mannerisms and such... even the hair on Word *laughs*
Sarah Frost - April 3, 2005 05:07 PM (GMT)
Yes, Moordryd is SO canon!Draco.
Re the Arthurian thing, yes, we have Artha, Moordryd, Lance, and possibly one or two more I don't remember, but IMO they completely mucked up on the mythology (as I've ranted over at TV tome). See, the Artha/Moordryd plot point? Arthur was RESPONSIBLE for Mordred's actions, becaushe he'd sinned by sleeping with his sister. There was a big love triangle between Arthur and Lancelot and Guenivere too. Somehow I doubt they'll insert either plot point into Dragon Booster, and to my mind they missed out on an opportunity there: this is NOT mythology inserted for any rational or interesting reason, this is just semi-randomly stealing names from the Arthurian legend that's been done thousands of times before. And to me that's a fairly pathetic thing to do. Please, don't rape King Arthur and his story. Others lots better than you have already done it with greater significance.
Also, they're mixing their mythologies. He may be Artha Penn, but he rides Beaucephalis/Bucephalus, Alexander the Great's horse from history. WHY must they now write bad crossoverfic and rape two canons?
The Furox - April 4, 2005 02:17 AM (GMT)
There are a couple more parallels: Mortis seems Merlin-like to me and Artha being the one chosen to ride Beau seems kind of like King Arthur pulling the sword from the stone. Also, Mortis/Conner gives Artha the magical armband and amulet kind of like how Merlin helps King Arthur acquire Excalibur.
My opinion has always been that they just threw this in as nothing more than Easter eggs for the older viewers. I don't expect to see anything more develop plot-wise. What we've noticed in the names I think is all there is to it. I did get a nice chuckle when I first noticed the Artha Penn/Arthur Pendragon parallel, and I feel that was it's only purpose.
Natalilly - April 4, 2005 02:29 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sarah Frost @ Apr 4 2005, 03:07 AM) |
| See, the Artha/Moordryd plot point? Arthur was RESPONSIBLE for Mordred's actions, becaushe he'd sinned by sleeping with his sister. |
Aaah, but we don't know who Moordryd's Mum was, maybe it was Connor, who's really Words sister and has taken too many male hormone pills? Or maybe Word's really a woman... *laughs*
Sounds like the creators were bored and had a strong mythology background. i guess I assume to much off my own cartoons and comics with the ties ins and stuff, it probably is just a moot point.
The other one I noticed thoguh was probably nothing more then a coincidence, but the Dragons remind me a lot of the Dragons in Anne MacCaffery's Dragons or Pern series, it's a pretty famous and well known series of Dragon books.
The connection between human and dragon, although not really shown yet, was always really strong, like the human would go mad if the dragon died and the dragon would kill its self if the human died. Thoughi don't think it's THAT extreeme for sanitising for the wee ones reasons, it's still hinted to be pretty strong.
The rarest and most prised of all dragons in the Pern series was the gold dragon (though it was the queen) and all the dragons listened and obeyed her.
Hmmm
ShadowCat - April 8, 2005 05:01 AM (GMT)
I've just started reading those books, and I thought it sounded a bit similar to Dragon Booster. Not too much, but a little bit.
Areal_Ravendark - April 23, 2005 09:56 AM (GMT)
I like it when they hide little cultural references in the show. I'll admit I read this on TV Tome, but in when Kitt asks Lance: Aren't you a bit short to be the Dragon Booster? It's alot like the Star Wars line by Princess Leia: Aren't you a bit short to be a Storm Trooper?
Sarah Frost - April 23, 2005 10:19 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I noticed that...and to be honest it irritated me on the basis that it broke the fourth wall. I don't think in a fantasy setting characters should be quoting 'Star Wars'.
Areal_Ravendark - April 23, 2005 10:25 AM (GMT)
Why not? It's all a bit of fun in cross-fandom parody, besides, the show has got sci-fi influences, it's a fantasy/sci-fi IMO.
Sarah Frost - April 23, 2005 10:57 AM (GMT)
I don't think DB's a parody. It's not funny enough to be a parody; its intention strikes me more as "sci-fi/fantasy other world with a reasonably light tone" rather than "complete parody that doesn't have to worry about internal consistency or that pesky fourth wall". The "stormtrooper" line would be like JK Rowling having Harry Potter allude to Lord Dunsany's works in conversation with his friend Ron. Incongrous in that setting, and IMO it ruined that fourth wall I personally like to believe in on occasion.
Areal_Ravendark - April 23, 2005 11:01 AM (GMT)
I didn't mean that DB was a parody, I was just saying that that particular line was just a sort of parody reference to Star Wars. I like those kind of references...what is the fourth wall anyway?
Sarah Frost - April 23, 2005 11:13 AM (GMT)
It's an acting term. On stage the scene's usually set inside a building, and three of the set walls are painted to look like the building's interior, and there isn't a fourth wall because that's where the audience is looking. However the actors behave (to a varying degree of course, depending on what school of acting they follow and what the play's requirements are) as though there was a fourth wall. They don't directly address the audience. To 'break the fourth wall' typically occurs in comedy scenes, where one actor says something like, "You know the audience would kill us if I murded the hot guy". It's generally not supposed to happen in serious drama, because it kills the theatrical illusion.
I like those kinds of references in certain situations (eg. naming the characters Artha and Moordryd and Lance and ACTUALLY HAVING THEIR ROLES IN THE STORY REFLECT THE LEGEND IN A MEANINGFUL WAY) however Kitt's line struck me as implying that SHE knew about Star Wars and was making a joke, which annyd me.
Jorghes - April 23, 2005 01:05 PM (GMT)
ah hah! Can I see poaching here?
Writers do it all the time. Plus it's a chance to have a little laugh at every body. It's kind of like playing Where's Wally.