Title: Would You Really Consider Word A Villain?
Description: Well... would you?
Draco - August 9, 2009 08:34 PM (GMT)
I've been asking myself this question for a while now since Season 3 eps started airing... and I don't know if Word is really a villain at all, or just misunderstood.
What really got me thinking is when I saw "Battle for the Ages" when Mortis (Connor), DB, SB and Drakkus (basically Word :P) kicked Armeggadon's behind. Word was all, "Yes, Mortis! Together will we finish him!" Well, if he wanted world domination and the start of the DHW, and Armeggadon was also the one to do so, then why would he join forces with his mortal enemy and defeat him?
So... generally... I think Armeggadon would start the war, not Word (go ahead and protest, bring it on! XD). It seemed to show signs that Word might consider not starting the war, and instead Armeggadon would try to in order to control the world and other villainly things like that ><
Word in my option is probably just a lonely old man who misses his wife and wants world domination to replace the little hole that Zulay once filled :( He probably does care a lot for Moordryd, but doesn't show it.
What do you guys think? :)
Liliwen - August 10, 2009 12:45 AM (GMT)
I think Word still wants to start the war, but start it his way. Armeggy wants to rule the world until he's the only one left standing. Word's view of global conquest is different, in that he thinks dragons should rule humans while he rules over them. He doesn't want to destroy the world, he wants to rule it. And if he didn't help the others defeat Armeggy, Armeggy would be powerful enough to actually win and destroy his plans. I think when he helped the others, he's just protecting his own dreams of world domination, which I don't think have diminished in any way. He's still actively trying to start his war, since in the last few episodes he actually unleashed an army on the city, allied with the Shadow Booster and did some other things I can't remember right now. :faint:
I think you're right, part of his wanting to rule the world is probably because he's trying to fill the void Zulay left when she died. But he also wanted to start the war when he was Artha's age as well. Since this is his lifelong dream, I don't think Word is going to slow down or reconsider. ;)
Is Word a villan? I think it comes down to why he's starting the war. Is it because he truly thinks it's for the best, and that the dragons deserve it and that he's righting some wrongs, or is it because he's starting it to satisfy his own desires? Maybe Word is both misunderstood and confused. :plot:
Draco - August 10, 2009 09:56 PM (GMT)
Thank you for the reply, Liliwen :)
And you have a good point. Armeggadon wanting to rule over dragons and destroy everyone else while Word wants to rule over dragons with his own power is the reason to why he joined forces with Mortis and the Dragon "Blunder" :lol: I guess I didn't think that through very well, did I? ;)
And squee I was right about something!!! :D Btw, didn't they say in the Alchemist that he promised Zulay that he would watch over Moordryd? Generally he's disobeying that by the fact that he doesn't seem to care too much about him during the series, and instead decides to put him in mortal danger in every way possible :P I bet he does care, but it's just that tough love kinda thing.
lol Yeah he wouldn't give up his dreams, but sometimes you have to for the sake of those you care for ;) Bah, who am I kidding? He's probably never going to give up starting a DHW! XD
I appreciate you replying to the stuff I put on here. Nobody's talking to me, really T-T Nobody's on anymore! *dies* Curse Nerds Corps for canceling the show. Now people are losing interest... *face-palm*
Oh, and I absolutely LOVE your avatar. It makes me laugh so hard XD lol VICTORY!!!!!!! >XD
Liliwen - August 10, 2009 10:20 PM (GMT)
I need to go reread the Alchemist, I forget most of it. :faint: And yes, tough love from Word. I'm sure he does care, since his greatest fear is losing Moordryd like he lost Zulay, but he's not really doing a great job of keeping him close. I'm sure that in DB:A Moordryd will turn on him, far more than he's already done so, and Word will realize that his worst fear has come true. But he doesn't really act like he likes Moordryd. He uses some serious tough love. Like in No Paynn No Gain, he says the Shadow Booster was the son he never had right in front of Moordryd. Aside from the irony, that's tough.
I can't decide whether I can see Word turning to the good side with Moordryd or continuing on like he's doing with no redemption whatsoever in DB:A. I just can't decide... :plot:
I know. It was so nice when I first joined this forum, so many people were on. Ah, the good old days. ^_^
Thanks! :D It's my first gif and I'm so proud of it. ^_^
Side note, I still don't understand Word's plan for world domination. He wants dragons to rule humans because humans are weak, yet he wants to rule over dragons? Or maybe he just thinks too highly of himself. :D
Draco - August 10, 2009 11:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Liliwen @ Aug 10 2009, 02:20 PM) |
I need to go reread the Alchemist, I forget most of it. :faint: And yes, tough love from Word. I'm sure he does care, since his greatest fear is losing Moordryd like he lost Zulay, but he's not really doing a great job of keeping him close. I'm sure that in DB:A Moordryd will turn on him, far more than he's already done so, and Word will realize that his worst fear has come true. But he doesn't really act like he likes Moordryd. He uses some serious tough love. Like in No Paynn No Gain, he says the Shadow Booster was the son he never had right in front of Moordryd. Aside from the irony, that's tough.
I can't decide whether I can see Word turning to the good side with Moordryd or continuing on like he's doing with no redemption whatsoever in DB:A. I just can't decide... :plot:
I know. It was so nice when I first joined this forum, so many people were on. Ah, the good old days. ^_^
Thanks! :D It's my first gif and I'm so proud of it. ^_^
Side note, I still don't understand Word's plan for world domination. He wants dragons to rule humans because humans are weak, yet he wants to rule over dragons? Or maybe he just thinks too highly of himself. :D |
Oh yeah, his worst fear of losing Moordryd like he lost Zulay :P I forgot about that... And I thought it was sooo cruel that Word said that the SB was the son he never had right in front of Moordryd. I so hated Word for those few moments XD
I can't see Word being good during the beginning seasons, but I have a good feeling (though most doubt) that he'll be a bit nicer during the end of the series --if it ever comes!! <_< *cries pitifully* Gah I miss waking up at freggin six in the morning just to watch DB. My sis and I would bond just by doing that ^_^
And I joined this forum on the 14th of August, which was almost two years ago, but I had no idea what to do. I didn't know how to post polls or new topics or anything :P I was pretty stupid, but now I know what to do and I'm now currently active... while everyone else isn't T-T
And you're welcome! :) I can so see Moordryd doing that, honestly.
For your side note: I don't get it either XP He wants to rule over dragons and he says humans are weak, despite himself being human? That's calling himself weak :rolleyes: The dragons could easily overthrow him; just bite his head off and his efforts are pointless :D
Cain - August 12, 2009 01:31 PM (GMT)
I would not believe Word is a true villian. He has Wraith Dragons, and he wants to control all the dragons with the wraith gear. See how he controlled Beau in the ep "The Stand".
I do agree that he wants to start the war in his own way. He does not want to destroy the world, just to dominate the world with the entire dragon race at his side. Armeggy has the Leagues of Eight, and they are powerful.
They may be powerful, but the nine members were no match for Mortis, Drakkus, Shadow Booster AND Dragon Booster, combined!
I fell in love with the show late, and joined the forum later. It is sad not many people are on nowadays.
Draco - August 12, 2009 02:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cain @ Aug 12 2009, 05:31 AM) |
| I fell in love with the show late, and joined the forum later. It is sad not many people are on nowadays. |
I fell in love late too :P I saw the last 10 minutes of episode 5, "Fanning the Flames" in November '04. I joined this two years ago, but started using it now since I figured out some things. Back then I was pretty clueless X}
And I know, no one isn't on anymore T-T It makes me sad because I'm afraid I'll be the only DB fan again like I thought I was before the internet saved me from ultimate loneliness XD Besides my sister being the fan too, but she's into the Warriors Saga at this moment and she's not old enough to join the sites like deviantART or Youtube.
But, thankfully some of us to manage to get on here ^_^
Liliwen - August 12, 2009 09:43 PM (GMT)
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| Gah I miss waking up at freggin six in the morning just to watch DB. My sis and I would bond just by doing that |
I remember when it was on at 4:00 pm, back to back episodes on CBC, every single day for quite a while. Now those were the days. :D
I'm waiting for when/if DB:A airs and then see all the returning members and new members. :D
| QUOTE |
| They may be powerful, but the nine members were no match for Mortis, Drakkus, Shadow Booster AND Dragon Booster, combined! |
Just wait till they get bonemarks. How awesome a battle would that be since they'd probably need all five boosters to defeat him? :dance:
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| For your side note: I don't get it either XP He wants to rule over dragons and he says humans are weak, despite himself being human? That's calling himself weak The dragons could easily overthrow him; just bite his head off and his efforts are pointless |
Does he want dragons to rule over humans, or does he want his wraiths to rule over humans? Because with the way he's using his wraith gear, I don't think dragons want him to rule them. :P
Renesh - August 14, 2009 09:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Draco @ Aug 9 2009, 12:34 PM) |
| I don't know if Word is really a villain at all, or just misunderstood. |
A villain is a villain, regardless of his reasons for what he's doing. Good and bad are matters of opinion, but right and wrong are not. Take the anime Death Note for example: the lead character is presented as the protagonist (the "good guy") but he's actually the villain. He may be killing murderers and such, and trying to create a perfect world by eliminating crime, but the fact remains that he's a murderer himself, and thus the villain.
So yes, Word is a villain.
Now, as for why he wants to start a war...
Arthapenn - September 15, 2009 05:13 AM (GMT)
I agree with Renesh on this. A villian is a villian, no matter how much you want to think otherwise.