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Title: Did Beau Choose?
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The Furox - February 17, 2009 09:08 AM (GMT)
So let's see if anyone still wants to discuss DB topics here. :)

One of the things I've always wondered was if Beau had to choose to be the Dragon of Legend. I intend to ask The Magna Draconis this during a future Q&A round, but we can have some fun discussing our own ideas here in the meantime.

We know Beau chose Artha to be his rider, that much is clear. We also know from The Magna Draconis that Beau didn't choose Artha until Artha was ready, so Artha had to make a choice even if it wasn't quite as overtly conscious as it might have been. If Artha had to choose, then this begs the question as to whether Beau ever had to choose to be the Dragon of Legend himself. And if he hadn't chosen, would he just have been an ordinary dragon?

Consider the possibilities:

One answer is that Beau became the Dragon of Legend the moment Connor and Word got done zapping his egg with all that draconium energy they both applied. In other words, the choice was made for him and he had no say in the matter. So he was the Dragon of Legend from the moment he hatched and he just had to wait to find his rider.

Another possibility is that it is simply Beau's fate to be the Dragon of Legend and his has no control over his fate. In other words, he's a slave to the prophecy. Basically, he was the Dragon of Legend from the moment he was conceived and everything that happened to his egg that altered him was unavoidable fate and was destined to happen all along.

And of course there's the possibility that Beau had to choose his own destiny. Connor's selective breeding program and the effects of the draconium energy that affected his egg all prepared him to a *possible* Dragon of Legend, but Beau still had to make his own choice to follow that path. In other words, he had free will to turn away and just live his life as an ordinary dragon without any superpowers.

Have another theory? Post it!

So what do you think? :)

Skulderian - February 17, 2009 10:51 PM (GMT)
I'm fairly certain that Beau the dragon of legend was 'created' rather than simply happened. he wasn't as close to being a pure gold dragon when his egg was laid, if i remember correctly. he needed that mass infusion of black draconium, then the tempering with the three special bonemarks to bring his wavelength into the gold spectrum. So, he had absolutely no choice in what he was. hell, even if all that hadn't happened, i'm fairly sure Connor would've managed to breed a black and gold the old fashioned way... though Artha might've been 30 years old before that happened. :P

Hmmm... i wonder what a 16 year old lance would've looked like...

DargonXKS - February 19, 2009 05:10 AM (GMT)
I would prefer it if he had chosen to be the Dragon of Legend. This really stems from my dislike of prophesy more than anything, but it would give Beau an interesting addition to his character. For Beau having to know the responsibilities and still choosing to be the DoL gives him an extra layer of complexity instead of it all just being forced on him from birth or whenever. You could then dive into the reasons of why he chose to be the DoL. Did he choose to out of some loyalty to Conner, did he choose to fulfill the prophesy, did he choose knowing that it was time for dragonkind, or I could go on. ;)

Still going with the context of the show and all I think it is far more likely he was destined to be the Dragon of Legend and had no say in the matter.

The Furox - February 20, 2009 08:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Skulderian @ Feb 17 2009, 02:51 PM)
I'm fairly certain that Beau the dragon of legend was 'created' rather than simply happened.  he wasn't as close to being a pure gold dragon when his egg was laid, if i remember correctly.  he needed that mass infusion of black draconium, then the tempering with the three special bonemarks to bring his wavelength into the gold spectrum.

True, Beau wasn't a pure gold dragon until after Connor and Word tampered with his egg. So Beau was "made" a gold dragon without any choice in the matter. However, there's a deeper question here: is any gold dragon necessarily a Dragon of Legend? In other words, back in ancient times when the whole world was populated solely with gold dragons, did all those dragons have Beau's superpowers? Or are the superpowers reserved only for the uber-gold dragons that achieve Dragon of Legend status? The answer is really unclear to me. Another way to look at the question is does it take something more than just being a gold dragon to be a Dragon of Legend?

QUOTE (DargonXKS @ Feb 18 2009, 09:10 PM)
I would prefer it if he had chosen to be the Dragon of Legend. This really stems from my dislike of prophesy more than anything, but it would give Beau an interesting addition to his character. For Beau having to know the responsibilities and still choosing to be the DoL gives him an extra layer of complexity instead of it all just being forced on him from birth or whenever. You could then dive into the reasons of why he chose to be the DoL. Did he choose to out of some loyalty to Conner, did he choose to fulfill the prophesy, did he choose knowing that it was time for dragonkind, or I could go on.  ;) 

I feel the same way. I would really prefer it if Beau had had to make a choice (beyond just choosing the right rider) in order to move up to DoL status. Makes it more satisfying than if he was just born/hatched into it. It's like why royalty doesn't impress me; they didn't do anything to get there beyond being born to the right parents.

I'm not sure what Rob would say on this topic, though it does seem like they're not too interested in exploring dragon motivations in the show. :) Maybe if ask enough questions here we can push them a little. ;)



general wulf - February 21, 2009 09:46 PM (GMT)
i think that beau chose to be the DoL, i think conner and word just gave him the ability to become the DoL, its like arthas saying "release the dragon", i think beau decided to release the dragon and relize the full potention of his abilitys

Skulderian - February 22, 2009 12:30 AM (GMT)
ok, i've decided to refine my argument.

Apparently, According to the Magna Draconis, Beau's red and blue form is his natural state. the black and gold form, isn't. it's the form of the origional dragon whos gold star bonemark was 'floating in the ether' waiting for the first appropriate vessel for it to inhabit. as soon as beau's egg was altered to exactly the right paramaters, it fused with him from the astral plane or WHEREVER the darn bonemark was waiting. Red and blue Beau never had a say in the matter.

The original dragon of legend was probably desperate to re-join the world of the living because he saw things were spiraling out of control, and he needed to be there to influence the course of events. once red and blue beau was ready... well, you get the idea.

I'd still like to think that red and blue beau is his own personality, and it's not like the poor little hatchling's soul was shoved out when the black and gold took up residence in the body.

Shining-Dragon - February 22, 2009 05:42 PM (GMT)
Maybe its kinda like in yugioh, when yugi transforms into atem?

Arthapenn - February 23, 2009 08:55 AM (GMT)
I remember from the last Q & A that Rob mentioned we have seen Beau's sibling/s in some of the 39 episodes. Renesh spotted a close resemblence of Beau in another dragon.

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I believe Connor and Word tampered with Beau's egg. From that image provided by Renesh, the rest of the clutch do not need to be black, gold, red, or blue.

Bring on the Acedemy, please.

Renesh - February 23, 2009 06:19 PM (GMT)
Yes Arthapenn, however, also based on the last round of Q&A, as well as info from the Alchemist script, I believe the other hatchlings are gold, just not as pure as Beau. Maybe they can change their colors the way Beau can, and even if they can't, there are always chromo-shifters to fall back on. However, this isn't what we are discussing here. We're debating whether Beau was created as the DoL, or whether he had to choose after he hatched to become the DoL.

Frankly, I'm just going to say that I agree with Furox and Skulderian. With regards to the personality issue, I think S-D may have a point. We know Decepshun has her own personality, and retains it separately from the Vysox. I think it's safe to say that she's Decepshun when she looks her normal self, and Vysox (more or less) when she's in her "pure-black" form. I think it could be the same with Beau. He's the original hatchling's personality when he's in R&B form, and the original DoL's personality when in B&G form. Though the two, admittedly, seem to be extremely similar, if not the same.

Skulderian - February 23, 2009 06:41 PM (GMT)
... that gave me a thought. perhaps with the B&G in him since birth, little beau got taught alot of lessons from his predecessor, thus influencing his personality.

The Hydrag - February 28, 2009 04:14 AM (GMT)
I belive he was the DoL at birth. After all Magna Draconis told us that thanks to some original DNA being used to help develop Beau from a bone of the original DoL. So he would have been the DoL regardless, thats my oppinion on the matter.




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