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Neemers - November 9, 2005 08:44 PM (GMT)
Ok, If Conner bred back to the black and gold dragon, Beau's parents probably weren't gold dragons. Make sense so far? Good.

Now if Beau's scale colors reflect secondary bone color traits as Magna Draconis stated in the thread on dragon colors, Beau has a pretty strong black influence. Since maternal influence in the womb might create a stronger resemblance to the mother than the father, I chose that to mean that Beau's mother was a black dragon.

Now I can see children of two dragons of different colors having the bone color of a secondary bone color shared by the two dragons. I assume that secondary bone colors match the colors that are the best gear matches of that kind of dragon, so one can figure out the secondary bone colors of the dragons of each color by looking at what the best gear color matches for each dragon are.

Thus, for Beau's father we want a dragon that has no black, green, light blue, orange, purple, or turquise secondary influences.

This only leaves blue dragons, which can have blue, brown, light green, and white secondary influences.

This leaves gray, whuch can be magged by any dragon, and red left over.

This gives the eggs of the dragons the chance of having every influence but red.

Thus, I conclude that Beau's mother was black and his father was blue, or at least that is the most likely logical conclusion from raw data and guesswork.

Now, if the parents were different colors and more than one egg is laid at a time, Beau could have siblings that are , green, light blue, orange, purple, turquise, blue, brown, light green, or white.

Also, there's the attributes and skills of the dragons. Beau's are martial arts, balance, speed, intelligence, and gold draconium powers of legend.

The single female black dragon (Decepshun) we have to compare attributes with has intelligence, speed, and martial arts. The male blue dragons we have to compare both have martial arts and one has speed.

So what do you think a family photo would look like? Any opinions on what color his parents were.

Mari - November 9, 2005 11:30 PM (GMT)
:blink: Wow. I'm going to re-read that more slowly...
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Okay, it makes sense. I like your logic!! Perhaps somebody could draw the family photo for us... It would take me a long time, since I can't draw, only edit... <_<

Neemers - November 10, 2005 02:40 AM (GMT)
I'm thinking about doing a family pic, but I'm not sure how many siblings there should be in the same egg clutch or what colors they should be.

The Furox - November 10, 2005 02:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Neemers @ Nov 9 2005, 12:44 PM)
Ok, If Conner bred back to the black and gold dragon, Beau's parents probably weren't gold dragons. Make sense so far?

Yep. If Connor already had gold dragons around, he wouldn't have needed to breed them again to create Beau.

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Now I can see children of two dragons of different colors having the bone color of a secondary bone color shared by the two dragons.

That's one possibility. Another is that certain colors are either dominant or recessive. This would mean they'd have to be combined in the right order to get them all to come together and create a gold dragon. If this were the case, then Connor would have to first breed two parent dragons that were each near gold. In other words, he would have had to build up the colors in each bloodline such that when the two bloodlines were finally bred, the colors would all come together to create gold. So I think maybe each of Beau's parents would have had one primary color, plus a significant number of secondary colors. Together, the two parents should have had all 12 colors between them so that Beau inherited them all.

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Any opinions on what color his parents were.

I'm not sure how to decide myself. We know that Beau changed to red and blue to hide his identity. Perhaps those colors weren't chosen at random but because those were the primary colors he got from his parents. In those words, those are the colors he would have been had all the colors of draconium not come together so perfectly to make him gold. Just a wild guess, of course.

Neemers - November 10, 2005 03:02 AM (GMT)
I think I'll stick with my theory for the moment, if only because it gives me colors for each parent and a wide variety of possible siblings for a family pic. Too bad we can't get a look at the breeding records. If there was a dominance/recessiveness thing I think I'd be able to figure it out. I'm currently a fourth year biology student.

Hunter - April 8, 2006 08:44 PM (GMT)
His parents were either blue,red,green or black. With the colors of Power and Balance, and how Libris had the energys of blue,green,gold,red and black balance him. So there's no need to go to the Prophets or something....

ZephyrPenn - April 30, 2006 03:26 AM (GMT)
good reason neemers. Kinda confusing though can you mak a picture of the parents or a family photo

Burnout Beau - May 1, 2006 06:59 AM (GMT)
Errr, trying out a possible equation:

(Mother's draconium colour) + (Father's draconium colour) = Beau's gold draconium colour? :unsure:

I thought of wanting to try out with paint colours, but my art class days are soooo over...

ZephyrPenn - May 13, 2006 03:50 AM (GMT)
:faint: it would kinda be freaky. deecpshun could be beau's Mom? :faint: :rolleyes:

Burnout Beau - May 13, 2006 05:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ZephyrPenn @ May 13 2006, 01:50 PM)
:faint: it would kinda be freaky. deecpshun could be beau's Mom? :faint: :rolleyes:

Decepshun? Beau's mum? :eep: .Come on! That sounds impossible! If Decepshun were to be Beau's mum, she would've been much bigger than Beau, considering she will definately be much older than Beau. Besides, why would Beau want to fight mom?

Neemers - May 25, 2006 11:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Burnout Beau @ May 12 2006, 09:57 PM)
QUOTE (ZephyrPenn @ May 13 2006, 01:50 PM)
:faint: it would kinda be freaky. deecpshun could be beau's Mom? :faint:  :rolleyes:

Decepshun? Beau's mum? :eep: .Come on! That sounds impossible! If Decepshun were to be Beau's mum, she would've been much bigger than Beau, considering she will definately be much older than Beau. Besides, why would Beau want to fight mom?

He's a teenager. Why wouldn't he want to fight his mom?

the power of ICE - May 26, 2006 02:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Neemers @ May 25 2006, 05:39 PM)
QUOTE (Burnout Beau @ May 12 2006, 09:57 PM)
QUOTE (ZephyrPenn @ May 13 2006, 01:50 PM)
:faint: it would kinda be freaky. deecpshun could be beau's Mom? :faint:  :rolleyes:

Decepshun? Beau's mum? :eep: .Come on! That sounds impossible! If Decepshun were to be Beau's mum, she would've been much bigger than Beau, considering she will definately be much older than Beau. Besides, why would Beau want to fight mom?

He's a teenager. Why wouldn't he want to fight his mom?

All I can say is. ^_^

:P

ZephyrPenn - May 26, 2006 03:19 PM (GMT)
it's true teenagers do fight with their moms but it is possible

The Furox - May 26, 2006 08:55 PM (GMT)
While I think there could be some great humor possibility if Decepshun were to be Beau's mother, I think the writers would have dropped some clues by now if this was really the case. But it sounds like a fun premise for a non-canon humor fic. :D

Decepshun: Beau, if you want to go out and play "dragon of legend" with your friends, you have to clean your room first.

Beau: Awww, mom! But I have to save the world!

Decepshun: You can save the world after you've cleaned your room. And put a sweater on in case you get cold.

:P

ZephyrPenn - May 27, 2006 12:05 AM (GMT)
The comic sounds just like my mom

power of dragon - May 27, 2006 12:56 AM (GMT)



Deception probably would not be beau’s mom. So far I would think Deception would be more of Moordrd’s age, kinda like how Beau is Artha’s age. But maybe not, though deception was not wise in racing technique, the vysox know that trick. (but then again this dragon is ancient so that may not apply.) Though true that would be funny in theory, certainly would be a plot twist.
Also as Naynade made a picture of adult Beau, and he was giant size, so maybe dragons grow more for a few more years. (probably they don’t grow to the size of the giant dragons, but who knows. This might be like how most people don’t grow to be past 6 foot tall, but there are people who do. (and come to think of it, it is fairly common, but many don’t)


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I thought of wanting to try out with paint colours, but my art class days are soooo over...


Well we don’t know if certain colours when mixed make another colour. For example with paint mix all the colours and you end up with black, but with light you mix all the colours and you end up with white. Plus in this world you take yellow and blue and you get green. But In DB world the physics laws that apply in this world may not apply there. ( though the yellow might be replaced with gold)

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I'm not sure how to decide myself. We know that Beau changed to red and blue to hide his identity. Perhaps those colors weren't chosen at random but because those were the primary colors he got from his parents. In those words, those are the colors he would have been had all the colors of draconium not come together so perfectly to make him gold. Just a wild guess, of course.


But on Misjudged, Beau turned into a brown, and gold form to get claws. (maybe I off though, I’m not quite thinking like normal)

O and when Beau is blue and red, if the mag bursts tell you the main draconium, how come no one in DB world thought of him as gold? In the episode Misjudge Rumble
had a goldish mag, so, maybe they just think Beau is of brown draconium. Hey what if the T-P could be of brown draconium? And if T-P was gold draconium couldn’t he be used to breed Beau?

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His parents were either blue,red,green or black. With the colors of Power and Balance, and how Libris had the energys of blue,green,gold,red and black balance him.

Ya if Beau has secondary colours, or that all the colours mix to make gold, how come he couldn’t just use his own mag energy to balance libris? Or is it that once the draconium colours are mixed they can’t be separated until bred into a descendant dragon. ( like light can be separted by a prism, maybe beau can’t have the same effect when it comes to separating draconium colours) This makes me think the dracomium colours are like light. All colours mix to make white ( gold in DB), but that would throw off black, because with light black isn’t a light. Where there’s black no light is coming from. Also where would yellow be? So far I haven’t seen a yellow dragon, or a yellow draconium, but maybe draconium mixes to get yellow, or that gold is yellow. (ha I think I’m having a brain storm, so many ideas ^_^ ) Maybe white replaces yellow.

I hope this is making sense, because I confuse my friends often, let me know if I’m not making any sense. I also haven’t gotten to translating the Magna Draconis, or to reading the thread on dragon colors. I read Neemers response twice, and there are a few things I’m not quite understanding, but I’m going to come back to it later. ;)

The Furox - May 27, 2006 02:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (power of dragon @ May 26 2006, 05:56 PM)
probably they don’t grow to the size of the giant dragons, but who knows.

I don't think all dragons continue to grow and become giant sized. If they did, there should be lots of them around the city. The absence of giant dragons and the fact that all of the city infrastructure from drag-ways to stables to feed stations are set up for the size dragons we normally see means they don't get bigger than that. Giant dragons have to be exceptionally rare or the city would have been built differently.

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Well we don’t know if certain colours when mixed make another colour.

Right. The only thing we know about draconium is that mixing all the colors in balance yields gold. Paint mixing rules wouldn't necessarily apply since it's a different element.

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O and when Beau is blue and red, if the mag bursts tell you the main draconium, how come no one in DB world thought of him as gold?

That question has come up many times here. :D It's the same reason neither Word nor Moordryd have noticed that the gold dragon has the same shape and size as Artha's red and blue dragon, and even has the same name! :faint:

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Ya if Beau has secondary colours, or that all the colours mix to make gold, how come he couldn’t just use his own mag energy to balance libris?

Probably because the writers wanted to make the plot point that the other four teenagers are needed to resolve things. :P


Beauman - May 27, 2006 08:14 AM (GMT)
Im not sure whether Connor was careless but maybe he or someone else (prbably Word as he and Connor/Mortis are enemies like Moordryd and Artha are) mistreated the egg or baby Beau and made Beau forget them somehow?
Also, if different bone elements and matching mag elements are put together and they make gold, can real (electro) magnetic fields be "coloured" by inserting certain amounts static electricity into it and they make gold could that happen?

Cya.
Beauman

Wyldfyr - May 28, 2006 07:11 PM (GMT)
Seriously Decepsun could be beau's mom. It would be cool in one episode if They showed his family.

MinervaRahn - May 29, 2006 07:19 AM (GMT)
I didn't think about talking in this subject of who's the' momma' and the 'daddy' but I guess I can have a go at it.

I really have to disagree with some people saying Decepshun being Beau's mother because one) there is but a less chance that she would give birth to the black and gold dragon of legend. Secondly) wouldn't it seem probable to have that much power passed on if it was a pure black dragon? remember; Decepshun wasn't a pure black dragon until she got exposed to Words black draconium invention in " Darkness Falls".

eh that's all I got, man I hope they make an episode that talks about it haha :D

Burnout Beau - June 12, 2006 10:43 AM (GMT)
Wow! Some actually thinks that Decepshun is Beau's mum. Hmm, I wonder what would happen if the unthinkable were to happen, like so:

Decepshun: Beau...I'm your mother.
Coerschun: While I'm...your father.
Abandonn: And I'm your grandfather.
Tyrannis Pax: Wait! Does that make me your...step-grandfather?
Cyrano, Fracshun and Wyldfyr: And we're your siblings!

Imagine the look on Beau's face when he hears all this... :faint:

hana&rayne122 - June 18, 2006 12:06 AM (GMT)
ha ha!! that would be great!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Astrala - July 19, 2007 05:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Furox @ Nov 10 2005, 12:49 PM)
QUOTE (Neemers @ Nov 9 2005, 12:44 PM)
Ok, If Conner bred back to the black and gold dragon, Beau's parents probably weren't gold dragons. Make sense so far?

Yep. If Connor already had gold dragons around, he wouldn't have needed to breed them again to create Beau.


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i don't know. it does kinda make sense, but the legend said a black and gold dragon. plus, Beau is not the only gold bone dragon. remember tyrannis pax, Connor's dragon. Connor has been through the elite class circuit, so that makes tyrannis an elite class. he's possible a few years older than Connor. so it's possible that Tyrannis could be Beau's father.

not sure about the mother, though. It makes sense that it would be a black dragon, or at least have some kind of black influence. though i wouldn't know, i'm not a dragon breeder. but i think that it would make sense for Beau and Tyrannis to be related.

black and gold dragon - July 19, 2007 01:01 PM (GMT)
actually the thing with desepchun bein beau's mom. that is sorta impossible. one. is tenagers do fight with parents. i am not sure if that runs through dragons. two qouting someone "the dragons are close to the humans ages"[not in dragon years though] i have hypothesized that moordryd is about sixteen[i think]. now with the bone color breeding thing. two things. one your idea could've worked. two it couldve been luck too. did i make a mistake?

Burnout Beau - July 20, 2007 02:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Astrala @ Jul 19 2007, 03:50 PM)
so it's possible that Tyrannis could be Beau's father.

I highly doubt that; note that T-Pax is a bipedal while Beau's quadrupedal. But nevertheless, I'd better not reject that theory. :eep:

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not sure about the mother, though. It makes sense that it would be a black dragon, or at least have some kind of black influence.


I too had that theory that one of Beau's parents could be a black dragon, which is definately going to make the storyline 'interesting' if that's true. :plot:

Astrala - July 20, 2007 02:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Burnout Beau @ Jul 20 2007, 12:34 PM)
QUOTE (Astrala @ Jul 19 2007, 03:50 PM)
so it's possible that Tyrannis could be Beau's father.

I highly doubt that; note that T-Pax is a bipedal while Beau's quadrupedal. But nevertheless, I'd better not reject that theory. :eep:



true, but i think because gold dragons were the original ones, the whole quadrupedal bipedal doesn't really apply. and if his mother was a quadrupedal, then because gold dragons can be either, the quadruped would be the dominate influence.

Elushun - July 20, 2007 03:54 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Burnout Beau @ Jun 12 2006, 06:43 AM)
Imagine the look on Beau's face when he hears all this... :faint:

I don't have to imagine. I know.

user posted image

Don't laugh. He got stuck like that.

black and gold dragon - July 20, 2007 12:19 PM (GMT)
yeah he is ahving problem s with his computer. lol that is funny!

Deathshallcome - August 28, 2007 12:14 AM (GMT)
there are many possiblities of beaus parents but one thing is for certain there is no way Decepshun could be Beau's mother if so she would have to given birth to him at around 2 or 3 yrs old which is highly impossible. And Decepshun was with Word at the time anyways so that would leave her out of the question immedately.

Dragon Fanatic - August 28, 2007 12:18 AM (GMT)
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it would kinda be freaky. deecpshun could be beau's Mom? 


That...is one of the creepiest things I've read. They're the same age. How can Decepshun be Beau's Mom when she's his age! Reason it out!

I think that his mommy and daddy were crosses of the other four colors ex. Mum was black and blue, Dad red and green.

Just a theory.

Deathshallcome - August 28, 2007 12:27 AM (GMT)
That is a possibilty there are so many possibilities that my head would explode. But my best bet would be.... A hybred of Black and Blue mother and a hybred of Green and Red father.

Allye - August 28, 2007 06:31 AM (GMT)
Remeber.. I asked that same question to one of the guys that created Dragon Booster and they said they looked just like Beau but Bigger, ^^ but there bone color is still a mistery... but he said they looked like Beau so mabe there gold but just not as pure :D

black and gold dragon - August 28, 2007 07:16 AM (GMT)
ok then how do they pass as an elite class if they look like beau only bigger? wouldnt that raise suspision?

Dragon Fanatic - August 28, 2007 02:39 PM (GMT)
Good question. Maybe there was a way of camoflouging them or the people were just too stupid to figure it out. All else fails, see if the Magna Draconis could answer that.

Deathshallcome - August 29, 2007 03:56 PM (GMT)
I think that conner was a really good racer in his youth after being a priest so he would be allowed to have the elite class dragons... thats my theory on it...

Astrala - February 26, 2008 11:46 PM (GMT)
this whole black and blue mom, red and green dad sort of makes sense, though wouldn't that make him pure gold bone. i don't know, it's all very confusing. :unsure:

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Deathshallcome Posted on Aug 30 2007, 01:56 AM
  I think that conner was a really good racer in his youth after being a priest so he would be allowed to have the elite class dragons... thats my theory on it... 


you make a very good point, just one thing. connor wasn't exactly a priest before he entered the elite class, he was trained by the dragon priesthood.

Mari - February 27, 2008 04:27 AM (GMT)
Well, I can add some info to this, regarding Beau's parents. His mom was named ORYON, and his father CEPHYISS. Cephyiss looks alot like Beau, just bigger. See The Alchemist transcript for info. ;)

The Furox - February 27, 2008 08:27 AM (GMT)
Though we still don't know their bone color since it's not in the script. Hopefully we'll find out during the Q&A. Thank god for the Q&A! :D

Arthapenn - June 7, 2008 01:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Furox @ Feb 27 2008, 05:27 PM)
Though we still don't know their bone color since it's not in the script. Hopefully we'll find out during the Q&A. Thank god for the Q&A! :D

Someone better ask questions about Beau's parents. I do know that his siblings hatched after Beau hatched, and they are not as special as him. It is good we have information on what his parents looked like.
Until someone ask questions, we will never know the body colors.




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