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Title: Mutations
Description: Do You Think They Hurt?


Mai Blade - February 14, 2008 05:52 PM (GMT)
Not sure if this goes here. :plot: Also not sure if there's another similar thread (I haven't seen one). Anyway, on with the post. :mellow:

We see a few mutations in Dragon Booster. The Furox :flare: , the Samurox :order: , the Vysox :eye: ... all these essences mutate the dragon they become attached to, not to mention the dragons Word mutates.

I was just wondering: Does it hurt? ('cause it looks like it does, they way the dragons shudder and roar...)

What do you think?

Artha_penn1995 - February 14, 2008 08:29 PM (GMT)
now that I think about it, I think it does.I never really thought about it.

Well, the bonemark controls them and most dragons will probably try to fight it. So, my theory is that the dragon fights it and that's when it shudders, but soon it tires out and the bonemark has control over it. But thats just my theory. I hope it wasn't too weird :unsure:

Shining-Dragon - February 14, 2008 10:01 PM (GMT)
i think not. the roaring could be the bonemark spirit saying, "yay! finally free", well something like that
word proberly does hurt the dragons he experiments on

Liliwen - February 15, 2008 01:15 AM (GMT)
I'm with Artha_Penn1995 on this one. I think that when the dragon roars or shudders, that's it just trying to resist the bonemark. When it's undergoing the change, I don't think the bonemark has full control yet, and the dragon is still free to vent its rage. Would you yell if your mind was being taken over? It's just like Artha yelling in the Wraith Booster when the wraith gear takes over him.

Or the dragon could be just scared too. I don't think the mutations hurt alot, but they do probably hurt a bit or at the very least, tingle a lot. *shrugs* I think the dragons are roaring because of three things: they're trying to resist, they don't like what pain there is and they're frightened, what with the mutation changing them and all.

Elushun - February 15, 2008 02:16 AM (GMT)
All the transformations we've seen involve the infusion of tremendous power into a dragon's body. I'd assume that mag energy is closely related to electricity, as is mundane magnetism, so the feeling would be akin to a prolonged high-voltage shock. Painful I would imagine. The symptoms fit too. Screaming (Roaring in this case) stiffness, uncontrolled movements, wide eyed expression of fear or surprise. I don't think that anyone can speak from personal experience, but I imagine that it is at least... disconcerting to have one's body modified in such a manner.

All that came to mind when I first thought of this, but I run more along the lines of what's already been said. A dragons actions during the transformation are more likely the result of the assault on its mind. It would probably be too occupied with the battle within to worry about it's physical body.

Interesting topic. To be honest, all of the transformation sequences in DB have fascinated me. I'll probably be back here in the future.

Arthapenn - February 15, 2008 05:18 AM (GMT)
I had never thought of it before. It must have been painful. Decepshun found it agonizing the first time, and her rider called her name. This was in episode 24 'Darkness Calls'.

The Hydrag - February 15, 2008 05:48 AM (GMT)
Well I am unsure as to why they are roaring but I think that something like gaining so much more power would feel good. I know that certain things I have done that most would consider very painfull that feels extremly pleasant to me. (Nothing Adult if your mind was going there) Anyway I think that if anything they are roaring because they are scared. Not to mention the newly released bonemark has got to be PISSED OFF!!!! So emotions have my vote.

The Furox - February 15, 2008 05:50 AM (GMT)
I would imagine the energy in a bonemark is strong enough to cause some amount of physical pain as it is suddenly unleashed in a dragon. There's probably an equal, if not more, amount of trauma from shock and emotional distress. It's not physical pain, but that can be just as bad to endure. The physical transformation, like growing spikes, is probably painful as well. So yeah, I'd say it hurts.

RoldGold Dragon - February 15, 2008 06:38 AM (GMT)
I'm not sure if bonemark transformations hurt them or not. It is possible. Like someone said earlier, it could just be anger/rage we are seeing too. How about Academy Transformations (growing larger, changing body structure-like adding more arms etc.) with acquired knowledge/skills? Do they hurt. Do they get "growing pains" like you do when you're a kid? Is knowledge painful? :unsure:

The Furox - February 15, 2008 08:24 AM (GMT)
You know, I never had growing pains so I don't really know what they're like, though many think the pain is the result childhood overactivity as opposed to actual growing.

Putting that aside, I wouldn't think the Academy transformation would hurt any more than regular everyday growing up since it happens over a longer period of time as opposed to the instant bonemark transformations.

QUOTE (RoldGold Dragon @ Feb 14 2008, 10:38 PM)
Is knowledge painful?  :unsure:

I don't think gaining knowledge itself is painful, though I think had more headaches in college than at any other time in my life! :D



RoldGold Dragon - February 15, 2008 10:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Furox @ Feb 15 2008, 06:24 PM)
You know, I never had growing pains so I don't really know what they're like, though many think the pain is the result childhood overactivity as opposed to actual growing.

Putting that aside, I wouldn't think the Academy transformation would hurt any more than regular everyday growing up since it happens over a longer period of time as opposed to the instant bonemark transformations.


I don't think gaining knowledge itself is painful, though I think had more headaches in college than at any other time in my life! :D

Wow, never knew that was a possibility! Darn that big backyard! ;) :lol:

QUOTE (The Furox @ Feb 15 2008, 06:24 PM)
Putting that aside, I wouldn't think the Academy transformation would hurt any more than regular everyday growing up since it happens over a longer period of time as opposed to the instant bonemark transformations.


I don't think gaining knowledge itself is painful, though I think had more headaches in college than at any other time in my life! :D


Good point on the Academy....'touche on both!! :lol: :D

Mai Blade - February 19, 2008 09:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Furox @ Feb 14 2008, 11:50 PM)
The physical transformation, like growing spikes, is probably painful as well.  So yeah, I'd say it hurts.

Yes, that is what most concerns me: growing things where things weren't before. :eep:

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Putting that aside, I wouldn't think the Academy transformation would hurt any more than regular everyday growing up since it happens over a longer period of time as opposed to the instant bonemark transformations


Hmm. I just thought that the Academy transformation happened all at once, though that's because all we see in Dragon Booster are quick transformations. Your idea has merit and puts my mind at rest when it comes to the Academy dragons and their changes. Yay! :dance:

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All the transformations we've seen involve the infusion of tremendous power into a dragon's body. I'd assume that mag energy is closely related to electricity, as is mundane magnetism, so the feeling would be akin to a prolonged high-voltage shock. Painful I would imagine. The symptoms fit too. Screaming (Roaring in this case) stiffness, uncontrolled movements, wide eyed expression of fear or surprise. I don't think that anyone can speak from personal experience, but I imagine that it is at least... disconcerting to have one's body modified in such a manner.


:eep: Oh, my. All that changing and those symptoms would probably be terrifying, at the very least.

As for the mutations, let's extend to the humans too, as some of you have already said. Take Pyyrah and the Furox, for instance (Fanning the Flames). Her mutation didn't look like it hurt at all. What's up with that? Hmm... :plot:

Elushun - February 20, 2008 02:51 AM (GMT)
The humans don't really suffer the physical effects of the bonemarks as the dragons do. And it's my personal belief that they do not fully control the rider's actions either. They merely exert a strong influence stemming from the dragon's will. They also block a persons inhibitions, making them do what it is in their nature to do, but they would have normally opted out of due to morals or obligations.




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