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Sarah Frost - July 12, 2007 09:17 AM (GMT)
Credit and thanks to Dragonide for pointing out the first OC theft, SheWulph for alerting me in the first place and for supplying information and links, Thrakos who spotted additional plagiarism, LightningFlash, and anyone else who has been involved in looking into this issue. This is being posted in public to inform others of unauthorised use of their art and to warn in general; the context of the situation warranted this more than private messaging.

Following previous plagiarism incidents involving Alexis/Solari, I was...admittedly inclined towards suspicion, but prepared to be proved wrong. However, when I examined Alexis' site in detail, I found evidence of deliberate plagiarism--and also hotlinking, sometimes without credit, and the unauthorised display of others' artwork.

Alexis' photobucket on her front page is described as "Great source in Dragon Booster"; some images loaded there are not hers. I think this may well be a simple oversight on her part, but opening your photobucket holding others' art to the general public without mentioning individual artists' policies on the distribution of their art isn't fair to them.

Some time ago, Mari posted an animation topic, in which (scroll down) she posted some of her animations. She edited some of her posts later on, but this post shows Poseidos, Turbulence, and Beau, and was made on February 27 2006, long before Alexis joined the forum.

As they appear on her Photobucket, they are:Now consider the following screencaps of Alexis' site, on her animation page: 1, where she claims the very same animations for her own; 2, 3, 4, where other animations are displayed, credited to Mari (to whom they do belong); 5, 6, 7, where Alexis offers to give away the animations she claims are hers with code displayed; 8, 9. Mari's Beau02 image is also claimed as Alexis' work here, and the animations appear elsewhere on the site.

For direct comparisons:Every single filename is the same.

I could perhaps believe that Alexis, inspired by Mari, did her own dragons based on the Race for Power. However, in that game, each dragon travels in many directions, and yet all Alexis' animations share Mari's dragons' exact path--and Alexis somehow only chose to outline in blue the same dragons Mari chose to present that way. That deserves a serious inspiration credit--and to top things off, the filenames are exactly the same! Inspiration isn't quite the word!

Alexis credits Mari for some animations on the very same page, animations which appear on the very same thread on which Mari posted her dragons, and claims she made the dragons herself. The only possible conclusion is that these animations were stolen deliberately.

The animations are used elsewhere on the site as later discussed, and also on another website of Alexis' (supplied to me by SheWulph from Dragon City): screencaps here and here, where they are again claimed to be hers and offered to others.

Alexis' templates page contains some artwork. There are also some screenshots, and some credited art by other people. Her policy on it. Some may well not be plagiarised, and I do believe she's innocent until proven guilty, but screencaps follow just in case anyone recognizes more than I have: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11.

2 and 5 resemble this on BlueBooster's photobucket, posted 19 June (screencap shows 20 June reply), just a day after the first Alexis incident and shortly after Alexis joined the forum. I don't know which of them hasn't given the right credit. This link on DeviantArt, by White Booster, gives Solari the credit for it, and claims she got it off the Dragon Booster video game.

7 and 4 use one of Terry's templates here on Dragon City, and while I suppose it's just possible the plagiarist could have been plagiarised this one time, this is doubtful as Terry has the template and Alexis only coloured versions of it. However, perhaps Alexis gained it from someone other than Terry, as extra lines appear on it in both her versions. (The lines on the dragon are similar to Dragonide's in these templates.) Alexis has not posted this same template on her Dragon City page.

This deviantArt picture by StarBooster uses a template claimed to be by Shearkin--and 6 and 10 use a very similar template, which appears on Dragon City, indeed by Shearkin. Note that on the bottom of the screencap Alexis claims ownership of the art.

11 greatly resembles art by Allye posted here on 26 March 2007 (screencap). As well, the lower dragon in 11 has his template re-used in art by Allye (posted May 24 2007). I don't know which of the two of them made the dragons in question, as the time seems to be after Alexis/Solari first appeared. ETA: According to Allye, this art was in fact made by Alexis. I'm glad to hear that not everything was plagiarised.

Other images I've seen on DeviantArt similar to these are credited to Solari.

Aquarius. This page on Alexis' site has art by and for Blue Booster; I don’t know if any templates here need crediting, or were previously credited by Blue Booster before they wound up on the site.

Beau. This page on Alexis' site has some more template use, also various screencaps and what appears to be official art. This is an image I don’t think she created due to the difference between it and her art, but I haven’t seen it myself before and I’m not sure it’s official art. Again, no evidence.

Beau And Artha's Powers. This page contains more screencaps; she gives credit to Blue Booster and Nashy-Bear’s albums here, but I found some hotlinking, of which more shall be said later.

Beau's many forms. Contains more screencaps, and hotlinks to NashyBear as well. The header does mention that art by others is used, but she also says that "No Copywrite© is allowed".

Crew of the Month. This includes another use of Mari's Turbulence animation and a couple of YouTube screencaps.

Dragon Booster art. Alexis claims Mari’s animations as her own again, and some more template art she has not credited, though again it may well be her own. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18.

I did find that 13 and 15 are stolen from Razoric Dragon (who published a similar pice here as well); note Solari's art post here, where she displays this same recoloured image (screencap), giving credit to Razoric for the template in spite of the fact that she didn't actually base it on a template). It's clear she knew Razoric Dragon created the art in question, and stole it.

16 is very similar to this picture by Blue Booster, posted here on 18 April 2007; it also resembles pieces of Allye's work (photobucket here and here, screencap here). I suspect the true originator is Razoric Dragon.

18 uses one of the templates above, on BlueBooster's photobucket and posted here.

She also puts art on her page belonging to: Mari, Laiastar, Blue Booster, Dragonide, Dragon Rider, Eurukatt, “Goddessters”, Nayade, Neemers, Razoric Dragon, Shadow Dragon, SilverDragon, Skye, Terry, Thrakos, Vysox, Salazaar, the Furox, DargonXKS, Draco, Beaucaphalus, Apocolips, Arthur, Dolphinliss, Firewind, Kapciaki, “TheGreatGreay”, Allye, Shearkin, and maybe others I missed. I doubt all these artists gave permission for their images to be reused, even with credit. She also hotlinks in at least three cases, to Dragon City and perhaps other of the artists. (I did not go to the trouble of finding more hotlinks, but more are discussed shortly.) I doubt all these artists gave their permission, especially Mari.

Dragon Booster includes what looks like official art. She also embeds some YouTube videos posted by others—and includes links.

In these links, Alexis hotlinks the Furox’ image for TV.com, as well as his images for the Story Hat, Jetix, the printable version of the Dragon City alphabet. Proof: The image used for TV.Com on the screenshot above is NOT the one presently on the original site (here, grey background): it looks identical to the Furox’, here (blue background).

And furthermore, Alexis’ link to TV.Com reads:

TV.com
This site shows every time that Dragon Booster has been aired. One of the most useful things it offers is a cross referenced cast and crew guide so you can easily find out what else they've worked on. Clicking the image to the left will take you directly to the Dragon Booster section. You can also rate the show and individual episodes.


Furox’ link:

TV.com
This is a vast site that contains information for virtually every TV show ever aired. One of the most useful things it offers is a cross referenced cast and crew guide so you can easily find out what else they've worked on. Clicking the image to the left will take you directly to the Dragon Booster section. You can also rate the show and individual episodes.


Alexis’ link to the Story Hat:

The Story Hat
Visit the web site to learn more about their background and the development of the show, made and created by Kevin Mowrer and Rob Travalino.


Furox’ link:

The Story Hat
Dragon Booster was created by Kevin Mowrer and Rob Travalino of The Story Hat. Visit the web site to learn more about their background and the development of the show.


Alexis’ link to Nerd Corps:

Nerd Corps
Nerd Corps produces all the animation for Dragon Booster. Visit their site to learn about their company and see who's the Nerd of the Week. And to learn more about Dragon Booster.


Furox’ link to Nerd Corps:

Nerd Corps
Nerd Corps produces all the animation for Dragon Booster. Located in Vancouver, British Columbia, they are a full service 3D animation facility and have a complete production system allowing them to do all the animation and rendering in house. Visit their site to learn about their company and see who's the Nerd of the Week.


Alexis’ link to Jetix:

Jetix
Dragon Booster airs during the JETIX segment on both the ABC Family channel and Toon Disney in the United States. Click the logo to go to their web page for the show.


Furox’ link to Jetix:

JETIX
Dragon Booster airs during the JETIX segment on both the ABC Family channel and Toon Disney in the United States. Click the logo to go to their web page for the show.


The order is the same, as well. Alexis hasn't just hotlinked: she plagiarised the text, as well, leaving it up after she had been informed on her second incident that taking forum rules was also plagiarism. I realise that not everyone knows what hotlinking is (definition), let alone that it's wrong--I certainly didn't know what it was when I was a newbie--but Alexis has been told not to use others' pictures, and in some cases she has done so without credit. Admittedly some of the hotlinked images are official images, but giving credit to people who have bothered to pull them together is...a good thing. You may give her something of a pass for the hotlinking, but she plagiarised in more ways than that.

More hotlinked pictures, screencaps: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19

Mari's animation is used again in hotlinks 4-8 (example) and in 1 the the Furox' Draconian alphabet is hotlinked without credit (screencap).

More hotlinks I found to the Furox: Penn Racing Crew, Army of the Dragon Crew, Dragon Flares Crew, Grip of the Dragon Crew, Inner Order Crew, Will of the Dragon Crew, all from here, the teaser trailer, the long trailer, the DB logo, and Fracshun. (Example: here, also containing a Mari animation, see above screencaps.)

Mari's photobucket pictures are also used: Hyve, Phorrj, Shock-Ra, Poseidos, and Turbulence. Hotlinking to Photobucket might seem less inappropriate than hotlinking to others' sites--but it uses up bandwidth just as much, and not all the linking is done with credit, as in this instance.

The Nayade avatars I checked were also hotlinked. For example: 1 2 3, and I strongly suspect the others were as well. These two Nayade banners were also present: two Fracshuns. However, they were credited to Dragonide!
More Nayade hotlinks included on the screencaps, without credit: 1 2 3 4 5 6

Dragonide hotlinks: This from Dragonide was also hotlinked, along with images from gamershell.com, images from jakkspacific.com, images from cbc.com, images from animated-news.com, somewhere called edharriss.com (link), and this.

I don’t know how many more images on the site are hotlinked, and it’d kill my browser to go through them. She may not have realised that hotlinking is bad, but this is more display of images that are not Alexis’. This also shows one biiiig problem that comes from hotlinking.

Screencaps she claims are from her photobucket. There are also YouTube caps which I would assume she took herself. She also displays pictures credited to the Nashy-Bear albums—and again, hotlinks. Hotlinks 1 2 3, screencaps 1 2 3. More of Nashy-Bear's screencaps follow than these three examples.

Gear pictures are credited to BlueBooster. However, more hotlinking to the Furox is present (she also links to his page, in fairness). Examples: Orange drag-box, Gray assist, and White sledding from the Furox' site, screencapped here.

Gem-class dragons. Uses credited Matryx art and edited screencaps.

Other fandoms. I don't know anything much about any of them. However, in a random click I did find this hotlink from Fanart Central (screencap), which may not be hers judging by her art on the Furox' site, and screencaps from these hotlinked addresses: 1 2 3, screencap. These appear on her photobucket, and may be official Lion King art. Eragon screencaps are also hosted on her own Photobucket.

Alexis' links page includes more hotlinks, from: White Booster, Blue Booster, Skye, the Furox (Dragon City), HurricaneRider (Mari’s animation again--this may be another plagiarised site), the Furox (Photobucket), Dragonide, Dragon Racer, Elginman, the Furox (Dragon City, again), the Furox (Dragon City), the Furox (Dragon City, again), the Furox (Dragon City, again), Funimation, the Furox (Dragon City, yet again), the Furox (Dragon City), the Furox (Dragon City, yet again), the Furox (Dragon City), Squishia, Nayade, Dragonide, Fullmetalfan628, Mari, the Furox (Dragon City, yet again), the Furox (Dragon City), Brightclaw, Nerd Corps, the Great Grey, Shearkin (I don’t think the picture of the girl is by Shearkin, though, and it’s not credited as it appears on Alexis’ site), SilverFang, Mari (this is saved on Alexis’ photobucket account, but it's one of Mari's animations, screencap; note that Alexis evidently doesn't always hotlink), Laiastar, the Furox (Photobucket), Dragon Legends, Koering, Desperada, Propulseurdragon, and Assssa.

Screencaps: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

My Dragons. This is coloured templates and screenshots, again, with credited drawings of her OCs by others.

However:

This template by Razoric Dragon is used, twice without credit and twice credited only to Blue Booster: 1 2 3 4.

Roleplaying has a credited story posted. Apparent screencaps are posted on her account, and some fanart is linked from others’ photobuckets.

Screenshots and templates. Templates credited are made by Arthur, DargonXKS, Debi, DemonicFury, Draco, Dragonide, Dragon Rider, Eris, Laiastar, Mari, Nayade, Neemers Phsycopathicdragon, Razoric Dragon, Reignbeau, Shearkin, Terry, and The Great “Greay”. Again, images are hotlinked from the Furox’ site: link. Examples: 1 2 3 4. Screencap.

Merchandise. The images are credited to “some sites”, rather than the Furox’ research, from whence they came. Again, there is hotlinking: for example, screencap, going to Dragon City. Later images to the DVD covers and so on are also hotlinked.

And here is more plagiarism of the Furox’ links page (here). The images are hotlinked as well, and the text?

Alexis’ link to Jakks Pacific:

Jakks Pacific
Produces the Dragon Booster Action Figures and other show related toys.


Furox’ link to Jakks Pacific:

Jakks Pacific
This is the company that will be producing the action figures and possibly other show related toys.


However, the other three text descriptions on Alexis’ site are not plagiarised.

And that is Alexis' site as I examined it on 11 July 2007.

This page from Alexis' Piczo site (screencap), supplied by SheWulph, contained "Fan Art that I think is actually good", not credited specifically and including a Mari animation and the Razoric Dragon Beau picture (original here), without their names mentioned, and wraith art again similar to this Razoric Dragon picture and other versions of it. I understand saving fanart for oneself (indeed, my own photobucket is used for others' screenshots and art I want to preserve), but displaying where you expect others to visit, as evinced by this other page ("were you'll find different pics of the famous Beau"), means that proper credit is required. (The Broken Bonds screencap is Nashy-Bear's, from here.) This part of her piczo contains "[templates] me and other DB fan shave provided for you" (free for use). Further screencaps 2 3 4.

SheWulph also comments below that a Dragon Legends image has not been removed from the site as per her request. Screencap..

This (presently hosted on Dragon City) closely resembles screenshot art by Allye, posted on 12 March 2007. This one also resembles art by Allye posted 27 April 2007. This is also close to this picture on Allye's account. However, the coloured versions are Allye's this time, so it may be Allye using Alexis' original templates.

Thrakos has also found plagiarism on Alexis' art thread on this board.

Edit added: further plagiarism found on Solari's fanart page on Dragon City. I'm no artist and can't do nearly as good a job recognizing these pictures as others likely will, but here are the ones I spotted:

The following are based on this picture by Razoric Dragon: 1 2 3 4 5 6 (this one is described as "Rhineheart" in spite of it being a plagiarised Beau) 7 8 9. Screencaps, because I'm sure the Furox will delete the pictures: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.

The following are (probably) based on this picture by Razoric Dragon: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (note: the picture itself credits Blue Booster) 9 10. Screencaps: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10.

The five pictures here are based on four of Neemers' templates.

This resembles this template by Neemers, though not exactly, so may be from the same screenshot or from a third party's modification. It is also close to this Razoric Dragon art.

This one is based on this Razoric Dragon template. However, there is one crucial difference: the part on Razoric Dragon's template where it says "template by Razoric Dragon" has been removed!

The Furox' templates policy states that templates have been "donated by fans of the show" to be "used to create your own Dragon Booster fanart", so Solari may have been under the impression that no credit is necessary for template use on the site. (I don't know if that's what the Furox meant by his policy or not.) However, the Razoric Dragon art was not from his templates (this one comes pretty close, though), and the removed template credit is also dishonest.

...and that's all I have to say.

(In a side note unrelated to Alexis, Allye's board thread here also includes an uncredited take on Razoric's template (screencap.))

Phew!

The hotlinking is, as I said, not something every newcomer is aware of, but in some cases credit was not given for it; and I'm sure not all Alexis' art was drawn by others.

(ETA: The Furox has posted that while hotlinking to him is fine, doing so without credit is not.)

However, it's clear that Mari’s animations, the Furox' text, and art from Razoric Dragon and others were blatantly stolen. After so many incidents, any claim Alexis might have to “honest mistake” is now completely destroyed. As far as I’m concerned, anyone now posting on one of her sites or giving her permission to display their work is spitting in the face of those who believe that people have the right to their own creative efforts. I feel very sorry for those whose work she's appropriated without permission.

What small advice I offer to Alexis: delete *everything* from your site. Maybe get a new free site. Start again from the very beginning. Don’t use any pictures whatsoever that you didn’t draw or screencap yourself, unless after this others are still willing to let you host their art. Don’t plagiarise text, either. Credit absolutely everything that needs the slightest bit of crediting (inspired by my best friend, by Alliance Atlantis/The Story Hat, link cited by the Furox’ website...). It’s going to be very tough for you to regain trust.

Corrections and additional information are appreciated. I've tried to be as fair as I can, but no doubt I've made some mistakes.

ETA: SheWulph adds on 31 July 2007 that some of the plagiarised content remains on Alexis' site. However, the animations and most other content appear to have been removed. Credit to Alexis for this partial removal.

SheWulph - July 12, 2007 05:28 PM (GMT)
There is nothing as low as stealing someone else's hard work. If someone can't make something with their own hands, then they shouldn't make it at all.

All that is posted above is enough proof of stealing that there shouldn't be any doubt about it.

Even I had to contact Alexis to request the removal of one of Dragon Legends images. This one. That was originally placed on her site without the permission of the staff of Dragon Legends. Instead of removing it she only linked it to Dragon Legends as can be seen on her site's home page.

This is all I wanted to add.

Thank you, Sarah Frost for going through the trouble of getting the information and the proof posted here.

Thrakos - July 12, 2007 05:43 PM (GMT)
Thank you, Sarah Frost for going through all this to prove that theft did occur.

Sarah Frost - July 12, 2007 10:39 PM (GMT)
I've just made an edit pertaining to Solari's Dragon City fanart page.

The Great Grey - July 12, 2007 10:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
I doubt all these artists gave permission for their images to be reused, even with credit.


True, Alexis didn't ask me if she could put up my pictures of Storm, or my templates. When I was looking through her website I found my pictures...and I was a little bit confused. I didn't really mind this since she gave me credit, but my website lost it's point (The point of my website was to show off my art, but since I joined this fourm I can show off my art easyer. Great and friendly place by the way :D ). <_< It is wrong to steal other people's work and call it your own.

Alexis asked me if she could "Link" my website with hers, and of course I said yes.

The Furox - July 13, 2007 06:09 AM (GMT)
I just deleted everything from Solari/Alexis on dragon-city.org. I just don't have time to sift through it all and figure out what's a copy and what isn't given that there are over 3000 pieces of fan art on the site. It's pretty easy to spot copies made from things from artists like Skye and DargonXKS who have distinctive styles, but the template based art is too hard to compare. So I'm just dumping it all. (If you still see it, it's probably in your browser's cache. Empty your cache if you want to get rid of it.)

I'm rather disappointed by all the text copied from my site as well. Though my anger about that will be tempered by the fact that I'm sure Alexis doesn't know how to promote a web site which means only a few of her friends will likely ever see it (especially since I also removed the link to the site from mine). So she's basically going to have a web site with nearly no visitors now. Hopefully, she'll delete the site and start over, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

A couple of related notes for the record:

While I obviously don't want to see the text, site design or layout copied from my site, I don't mind if people want to share the screen shots I use around my site. I don't own the copyright on them, so I have no basis to claim them exclusively (in fact, I'm technically violating copyright myself by having them there). However, I do put a lot of effort into finding and selecting just the right shot for what I want, plus every one of those is edited and tweaked in Photoshop to enhance and optimize its appearance for the web, so a lot of time goes into preparing all of them. So if anyone wants to use a screen shot from my site, please be polite enough to say where you got it. And if you use it on your own web site, then additionally please provide a link back to my site.

So if you see a screen shot you like and you want to use it say in your signature, feel free. Or if you want to include it in a posting you're making because it's relevant to the discussion, then you can do that too. This applies if you want to use it on one of the other DB forums as well. Just be nice enough to say where you got it.

However, the site banner and other custom images I make that aren't just screen shots (like the Draconian alphabet translation table) are off limits. Things like that I want to keep unique. And of course, all the fan art is off limits unless you have permission from the artist. Though of course you can make a link to a piece of fan art if you want to talk about it in a posting you're making.

Also, hot linking to images on my site doesn't bother me. Hot linking used to be a big issue because Internet bandwidth was expensive and therefore the quota was low and it was costly if you exceeded your monthly quota. But now bandwidth is pretty cheap and my hosting service provides me with more bandwidth than I presently know what to do with. So if you want to include a screen shot you see on my site in your posting here because it's relevant, then feel free to hot link. You won't be costing me anything. Now of course, if amazon.com starts hot linking to my site, then my server would probably melt, but we don't have enough people here that it will make a difference to me. You can also hot link to anything in my photobucket account since I've got plenty of bandwidth there, too. Again, just say where you got it.

Sarah Frost - July 13, 2007 06:22 AM (GMT)
Thanks for your clarifications. :) I did note that some of the hotlinked pictures were official art/screencaps, and I realise they're not the same thing as using someone else's artwork--but credit to those who tweak things and pull links together is rather an advisable thing to do, and Alexis obviously doesn't care to give out much credit. (According to her own forum, she's currently on vacation, but that was posted some days after the roleplaying-rules plagiarism incident, which means that if she had sincerely learned her lesson from the previous experiences she would have deleted her art and text theft.)

Allye - July 16, 2007 03:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
11 greatly resembles art by Allye posted here on 26 March 2007 (screencap). As well, the lower dragon in 11 has his template re-used in art by Allye (posted May 24 2007). I don't know which of the two of them made the dragons in question, as the time seems to be after Alexis/Solari first appeared.

I can answer that one ^^ Well the dragons she made where her templates there on dragon-city.org I did'nt make them she did. I just used them from the template gallery and there are severl differences to Joe and Sky class Beau Joe has higher stockings and a bald tail and has no back markings. But mabe I'm getting this all wrong XD Let me now on anything ^^ I'll also edit my site and give all the credits...feel free to look at it if you want ^^

Sarah Frost - July 16, 2007 04:04 AM (GMT)
Thanks for your reply, Allye. :) I've edited the first post to reflect it. I'm glad to know some of Alexis' art was her own work, and that you'll be editing your own work to give proper credit (you and Alexis seem to be friends, so even if it wasn't a template I'm guessing she'd give you permission).

Nayade - July 18, 2007 10:27 PM (GMT)
Thanks a lot for doing this Sarah Frost, I really apreciatte what you did for us.

Even if I don't mind to much if people show my art and give me the credit without telling me, it will be better and nice to let me know, and it will make me feel glad to know who is going to show my drawings in her/his webpages. And it will be more drac to leaving a link to my deviant webpage.

I also want to contribute. Yesterday a found this webpage -->Link (well, is more a blog). This blog have a lot of drawing from us, so is very slow and sometimes stucks for a while. I'm not sure but I think that the language is polish so I can't know if is he or she, and if she/he is given the credit or not. I think not. It have drawings/works from Shiroi Neko, Skylli, Dragonide, DragonXKS, Skye, Lazeros, mine and maybe from someone else I miss. And in two opportunities she/he (named Ka$Ka) have modificated two drawings, one from Skylli (Original Drawing found Here modificated into This) where we can see his/her name on it and not Skyllis' name. Done also with one of my arts but you can still se my name on it (Link)

Here is the list of art posted in this blog (I could miss some art from others)
DragonXKS
Link

Dragonide
Link--Link

Skye
Link--Link--Link--Link

Shiroi Neko
Link

Skylli
Link--Link--Link--Link

Mine
Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link

Lazeros
Link--Link--Link--Link--Link--Link

Sarah Frost - July 18, 2007 10:40 PM (GMT)
Woah, Nayade. Thanks for this. Perhaps you could try asking Turkmen to contact the owner, because she's Polish as well?

There seems to be a typo in most of your links; when I click on them they come up as http// rather than http://, for example http//republika.pl/blog_hp_3574843/4287476/tr/phyrestorm.png rather than http://republika.pl/blog_hp_3574843/428747.../phyrestorm.png . Easy enough for us to find, though, and thanks a lot for finding all the links. As an artist yourself, you can obviously recognize art much better than others. It's obvious that this person is trying to use others' art for themselves, and perhaps Turkmen will be able to let them know that it's a Bad Thing.

Nayade - July 18, 2007 11:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sarah Frost @ Jul 18 2007, 06:40 PM)
Woah, Nayade.  Thanks for this.  Perhaps you could try asking Turkmen to contact the owner, because she's Polish as well?

There seems to be a typo in most of your links; when I click on them they come up as http// rather than http://, for example http//republika.pl/blog_hp_3574843/4287476/tr/phyrestorm.png rather than http://republika.pl/blog_hp_3574843/428747.../phyrestorm.png .  Easy enough for us to find, though, and thanks a lot for finding all the links.  As an artist yourself, you can obviously recognize art much better than others.  It's obvious that this person is trying to use others' art for themselves, and perhaps Turkmen will be able to let them know that it's a Bad Thing.

No problem^^. I already fix the links, thanks for let me know I forgott to check them :P

I'm pretty sure that Turkmen is Polish, and also Helaiah and Riziak (I could not find her in the forum maybe she is with another name, but she is also a big fan of DB and I know both of them). But well, I can try to contact one of them to ask her if she can help me with this.

Helaiah - July 19, 2007 07:50 PM (GMT)
Um...
There`s no longer problem with stolen logo from lighting-flash by Polish discussion board, andministration will change it today or tomorrow(now there are problems with server and administration must wait some time). (It will be orginal, caude I has make it, used Nashybear screen, and I wrote that this is her screen. This will be no problem? - okay, new logo already online - http://www.dragonbooster.fora.pl/ . Big sorry from administration forr loong waiting for changes.)

I`m trying to do something with yours stolen fanarts, but this is more hard, cauce childrens from blogs don`t know what they`re doing. And don`t like anybody, who say something bad about them =='
Big sorry :(

Sorry for bad English too.

EDIT: this will be easier for me to work about art thiefes, if you give links to websides, not pictures url.

Um, and if there aren`t any changes in the picture, they used it only like pictures from official web, not as they own work. But they still need to ask for using pictures, I know.

Sarah Frost - July 26, 2007 10:55 PM (GMT)
ETA re Alexis: She stated on her board at around the same time as I posted the first post in this topic that she was going on vacation for two weeks and wouldn't be around (I wasn't aware of this at the time of posting). Some time after that, she posted a couple of things on the board (the latter claims she "barely" knows how to use Photoshop, the same program she claims to have used to create Mari's stolen animations), and now the two weeks have passed. Her post here also said that she has been in her house "all day this month".

I don't know what's going on, and I don't want to inquire into her RL circumstances. However, the animation page on her site with the theft from Mari had not been changed when I checked just a few minutes ago, and it's obvious that she has been around on the Internet. I haven't checked the rest of her site.

I do realise perhaps I'm going a bit too far with this, and I don't intend Alexis any harm, but the animations really were created by Mari, and it's unfair to her that they've remained up claimed by someone who has persistently plagiarised.

SheWulph - July 30, 2007 06:37 PM (GMT)
I agree with Sarah on this. Mari worked hard to make them and seeing them on a site that doesn't even give credit to her is, well wrong.

What is surprising me is that Alexis didn't even bother to reply to this topic.

Thrakos - July 30, 2007 07:32 PM (GMT)
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What is surprising me is that Alexis didn't even bother to reply to this topic.


I thinks its because Alexis was caught in a web of lies and is too afraid to admit their mistake.

Sarah Frost - July 31, 2007 01:54 AM (GMT)
Well, now she has removed the animation, so I guess she's watching this topic. I'm glad she's done that. It's too bad she only seems to delete after getting caught, though, and it's obvious she intentionally thieved Mari's artwork.

SheWulph - July 31, 2007 07:21 AM (GMT)
Not all of it has been removed though. Click There are still two there she clams she made herself and the one Here. Also there are some of Mytryx pictures that doesn't have credit at all and on the Icon and Pics page there are a few art pictures that doesn't have credit as well.

The Great Grey - July 31, 2007 10:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Thrakos @ Jul 31 2007, 05:32 AM)
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What is surprising me is that Alexis didn't even bother to reply to this topic.


I thinks its because Alexis was caught in a web of lies and is too afraid to admit their mistake.

Maybe she is afraid of you guys (or girls). I am not saying that she had a right to do the things she did, but someone can only handle so much. When I do the littlest thing wrong, I feel gulity through the rest of the day. Hopefully Alexis learns her lesson and doesn't do it anymore.

Sarah Frost - August 1, 2007 08:54 AM (GMT)
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Maybe she is afraid of you guys (or girls). I am not saying that she had a right to do the things she did, but someone can only handle so much. When I do the littlest thing wrong, I feel gulity through the rest of the day. Hopefully Alexis learns her lesson and doesn't do it anymore.


Yes, well, if she felt guilty in the way that shows regret for the thing itself and not for getting caught, after the first couple of plagiarism instances and especially after this report she should have taken down every page on her site with plagiarism. Of course, there was so much there that perhaps it was difficult to remember everything she took, but at the least she could have put up a note on her front page if she didn't feel like 'fessing up and apologizing in public.

Unfortunately, from the very first instance of OC theft (where she posted Neemers' art on her deviantART--this is not a mistake along the lines of believing that every random picture on the Internet is free to use as your site background) all she's shown about her integrity is that she deletes after getting caught. I hope too that she's learned her lesson and gets confident enough in her own work to no longer feel she needs to steal from others; I don't bear her any personal ill will, and hope Mari and the others will also forgive her. I also hope that she isn't enabled by other people who continue to add content to her sites despite the existing plagiarism.

Thanks for noting that she hasn't removed all the stolen art on her art page, SheWulph.

The Furox - August 6, 2007 06:06 AM (GMT)
Since the taking and re-coloring of other people's artwork has happened a number of times, I figured out a way to make it much more difficult for people to save artwork from dragon-city.org onto their computer. I figure if they can't save it, then they can't re-color it. So I came up with a way to trick the browser into doing something else when someone tries to save an image from the fan art gallery. People who are sufficiently knowledgeable will be able to get around it, but I don't think the kids who are re-coloring other people's art fall in this category. If you figure out how to bypass it, don't post the trick or else it will kind of defeat the purpose.

To test this technique, I implemented it on my own gallery for starters. I tested it in Firefox, Safari, Mozilla and Internet Explorer on Windows and on the Mac. I think it's working, but I'd like to see if anyone notices any problems or glitches with it. It shouldn't get in the way of viewing any of the artwork, but it should prevent you from saving it to your computer. If people here could take a look and make sure you can view things OK then I'd appreciate. The entire fan art gallery is pretty huge at this point and I don't want to convert the whole thing until I'm sure this is working correctly.

You can view my gallery here:

The Furox's Fan Art Gallery

Try to save any of the full size images and see what you get when you open the saved file. At the moment, I'm not bothering to protect the thumbnails since I don't think people will be interested in re-coloring those.

If you find bugs with this, let me know what browser, what version and what operating system you're running. Thanks.

Once I know this is working, I'll phase it in for the rest of the galleries.

Sarah Frost - August 6, 2007 06:17 AM (GMT)
Safari, Mac OS X. :) Works for me. It's a real shame you have to do this, because some people will want to save fanart just in case it gets deleted later or for other legitimate reasons, but hey, there's still the bypass option.

LightningFlash - August 6, 2007 10:46 AM (GMT)
"Please Don't Copy Artwork" IE, Windows XP. :)

SheWulph - August 6, 2007 12:16 PM (GMT)
"Please Don't Copy Artwork"

Haha, classic, Firefox v2 Windows XP.

PS. Prepare for a pm. lol

Thrakos - August 6, 2007 04:50 PM (GMT)
"Please Don't Copy Artwork"

IE, Windows Vista

The Furox - August 8, 2007 04:29 AM (GMT)
Thanks for trying it out everyone. :cookie: Looks like it does what it's supposed to without preventing you from just viewing the art work which is just what I wanted. I'll start phasing this in for the rest of the galleries soon. It's going to take awhile to get to them all since there's so much fan art now. :)

Oh, and it works for the iPhone as well. That was the second place I tested it. :)

Mari - August 9, 2007 02:18 PM (GMT)
*gaping mouth* While I am HORRIFIED that somebody would so blatantly STEAL something that took me a while to make ((I had to sit there and let them run around the track for AGES to get all the screenshots I needed for the animation)), I am... flattered... that Alexis thinks my work was good enough to steal. I always feel a little jolt of pride whenever I see somebody's sig sporting one of my sprites.

But, really, this level of thieving is PATHETIC. S/he didn't even bother trying to change the URL or anything! And, in my opinion, stealing another person's art is probably as low as anybody can go. When people make art, they put part of their soul into it, and just taking it and claiming it's yours (or, worse, mutulating it and calling it yours!) is like raping somebody's soul. Art thieves make me sick. *marches to a corner and promptly barfs* <_<

I FLAME YOU, THIEVES!!! *shoots flames out of mouth*

Nayade - August 14, 2007 07:16 AM (GMT)
I just noticed another plagiarism. And this time, I did it *very very ashamed* :(

I noticed that my signature didn't show the original artist of the doll picture. Same thing with some dolls I modified (time ago) to do DB characters. The author allow to anyone to change his/her doll bases and I did give the credit in one of my topics but, that is not enough. I fixed all the pictures, adding the webpage of the original author in the pictures.(click here to see)

Sarah Frost - August 14, 2007 07:47 AM (GMT)
It's cool you changed. :) Good on you for holding yourself to a higher standard of integrity than anyone else featured here.

Mari - August 14, 2007 04:46 PM (GMT)
That's good, Nayade. It feels HORRIBLE when you accidently plagerise without meaning to. I accidently did it in 6th grade (about 7 years ago) when I was new to the internet... I felt AWEFUL when I found out and I think the person I copied got sick of me saying how sorry I was. :P

Nayade - August 16, 2007 05:43 AM (GMT)
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That's good, Nayade. It feels HORRIBLE when you accidently plagerise without meaning to.

Yeah, it is.
But as soon as I notice it I wanted to correct my error and to admit it.

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It's cool you changed. CainSmiley.gif Good on you for holding yourself to a higher standard of integrity than anyone else featured here.

Thanks^^

Thrakos - August 16, 2007 09:37 PM (GMT)
It seems people haven't learn from the alexis incident. I found a backround I did in shining-dragons thread 'boono and friends.' multiple pictures of theirs has the backround and the only proof I have is in my fan gallery which is current offline on Furox's web site.

Deathshallcome - August 17, 2007 05:39 PM (GMT)
Someone else did that work thrakos and you copied it. This was the quote I used to corner him
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Ive seen that stable background (the one in multiple pictures you did) for a while now and I created one just like it first, for the last time stop copying my bloody art. and if you want proof I have it! It use to be in my fan gallery before I ask furox to take my gallery offline.
So she did not take it from you or any of her other pictures stole from you. This was already discussed in the topic Sarah Frost.

Thrakos - August 17, 2007 05:44 PM (GMT)
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SheWulph - August 17, 2007 05:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Deathshallcome @ Aug 17 2007, 07:39 PM)
Someone else did that work thrakos and you copied it. This was the quote I used to corner him
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Ive seen that stable background (the one in multiple pictures you did) for a while now and I created one just like it first, for the last time stop copying my bloody art. and if you want proof I have it! It use to be in my fan gallery before I ask furox to take my gallery offline.
So she did not take it from you or any of her other pictures stole from you. This was already discussed in the topic Sarah Frost.

Deathshallcome can you stop interfering in thing that doesn't concern you. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GRUDGE AGAINST THRAKOS DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO POKE YOUR NOISE IN EVERYWHERE. If you have listen, he is waiting for Furox with the proof, the proof is from Jan 2006, way before any of the other joined this site, way before you joined the site. So lets all just quit accusing each other and wait for the proof. Savvy.

Deathshallcome - August 17, 2007 05:47 PM (GMT)
Well you have. And why attack her? Like you said there are multiple ones out there. Why go after shining? Why not go after the ones who so called 'copied' it? Shewulph all you guys have been doing is harasing me, des and people we know. So the one who should be backing off is you and deneb with yer grudge against us.

SheWulph - August 17, 2007 05:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Deathshallcome @ Aug 17 2007, 07:47 PM)
Shewulph all you guys have been doing is harasing me, des and people we know. So the one who should be backing off is you and deneb with yer grudge against us.

Personal matters doesn't reflect on this site. Theft is theft.

Deathshallcome - August 17, 2007 05:51 PM (GMT)
Is that so? thats why you only go after people we know and not go after other people who have done that.

SheWulph - August 17, 2007 05:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Deathshallcome @ Aug 17 2007, 07:51 PM)
Is that so? thats why you only go after people we know and not go after other people who have done that.

Reported for flaming.

Deathshallcome - August 17, 2007 05:56 PM (GMT)
I have already reported you guys. I was not flaming I was pointing out the truth. And I have not even begun to flame and I won't either.

Reported For Constient Harasement




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