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dRagOniDe - June 18, 2007 02:38 AM (GMT)
I'm posting this because my friend Power of ICE asked me to do this because he can't be online at the moment.

Solari - as in the user, completely stole ICE's OCs Sam and Solari, even he stole the BIOs and I'm totally against OC thefts. I mean, why can't they create their own? is it so hard?

The point of this thread is looking for some help and back up.

ICE would really appreciate your help and concern on the matter.
Thanks n.n

The Great Grey - June 18, 2007 03:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (dRagOniDe @ Jun 18 2007, 12:38 PM)
I mean, why can't they create their own? is it so hard?
The point of this thread is looking for some help and back up.

Stealing OC is bad, but I really don't know The Power of Ice or Solari that well, so I really don't know who stole from who. I hope you sort it out, but who ever stole the OC, then make your own. You don't need to tell us who, did it, just fix it. (Sorry if I made the stealer feel bad.)

dRagOniDe - June 18, 2007 03:04 AM (GMT)
Well, I've known ICE since 2 years, and I can tell that those are his.

Sarah Frost - June 18, 2007 03:51 AM (GMT)
Plagiarism is indeed disgusting.

I'd appreciate it if you provided links, Dragonide. :) Looking up the power of Ice, I can see that Solari is in hir user info as well as in a fic posted November 8 2005. Solari only joined June 18 2007, more than a year later.

On the board, Solari has posted pictures of coloured-in Beau screenshots, and has not credited the power of Ice for the dragon's name. As this is in FanArt, LightningFlash should be informed. Solari's name can be said to be a tribute, but posting about the character as though they were hir own is plagiarism. I don't know if Solari has stolen any of the art as well.

On Solari's own website as linked in their profile, xe has written about Sam and Solari as though they were hir own. This is also plagiarism, and though there is nothing the board administrator can do about it, it's good of you to bring it to the attention of the fandom. I also don't know if xe had permission to mention the other OCs, but on the home page xe does link to BlueBooster's and the Great Grey's fansites, so although xe doesn't give credit for Aquarius either it seems like xe didn't intend to plagarise this part.

Although here we are all engaged in writing fics and doing art based on Dragon Booster, every one of us here knows that we are only fans of the show and that we do not own it. This place is called the Dragon Booster fan board. When we write fics and do art about a character of someone else's creation, though, unless we mention who made them up the audience can't be expected to know this, and so it's stealing the credit from them. Sam and Solari were created by the power of Ice, and taking them without consent is most certainly plagiarism.

To Solari, you may not have realised that not everything on the Internet is free, but it's unfair to the power of Ice to write about hir OCs as though you own them. You need to note who created them, just like if you were doing an assignment and you copied your classmate's. You've stolen someone else's work, and this is wrong.

ETA: Solari appears to have started to give proper credit.

dRagOniDe - June 18, 2007 03:54 AM (GMT)
Thanks so much for your help, here is the evidence.

http://www.freewebs.com/beaucephalis/solariandsam.htm

Sarah Frost - June 18, 2007 03:57 AM (GMT)
Yup, I found that link. :)

Further evidence:

This post was made by the power of Ice on 31 October 2006, and links to this picture, which I saw in the background of Solari's page...

...but now, Solari seems to have edited hir site to give due credit. I'm glad to see that happening.

The Great Grey - June 18, 2007 04:10 AM (GMT)
Then I made two picture's for The Power of Ice. There are at the very bottom of the page the Sarah Frost just posted.

dRagOniDe - June 18, 2007 04:15 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I saw that too, thanks Solari for changing the information.

Solari - June 18, 2007 05:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (dRagOniDe @ Jun 18 2007, 02:15 PM)
Yeah, I saw that too, thanks Solari for changing the information.

No pro it's the best I could do. What would of helped if you told me sooner. That would have been great. ;)

Sarah Frost - June 18, 2007 05:51 PM (GMT)
I'm glad you changed your website. You should also edit the Fan Art topic you started, to credit the power of Ice for Solari.

I wish I didn't feel like opening this particular can of worms, but your website currently claims that you thought you were taking the idea of Solari from your friend (screencap). If this is the case, how did you manage to come across this picture, linked by the power of Ice ages ago, and use it for your background without credit?

Solari - June 18, 2007 06:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sarah Frost @ Jun 19 2007, 03:51 AM)
I'm glad you changed your website. You should also edit the Fan Art topic you started, to credit the power of Ice for Solari.

I wish I didn't feel like opening this particular can of worms, but your website currently claims that you thought you were taking the idea of Solari from your friend (screencap). If this is the case, how did you manage to come across this picture, linked by the power of Ice ages ago, and use it for your background without credit?

Well it seems to me that my friend whom i can't trust anymore gave me that so, now I know but the day racer was my idea though. So sorry for the frustration and confusion going on here.

Sarah Frost - July 13, 2007 05:20 AM (GMT)
And an addendum to this affair: this DeviantArt post by Alexis/Solari, showing the Power of Ice's character in art linked above on 31 October 2006, long before Alexis joined the forum (I've now found out that Neemers was the original artist), proves conclusively she stole the picture.

As quoted in the post just above:

QUOTE (Solari @ Jun 19 2007, 04:06 AM)
QUOTE (Sarah Frost @ Jun 19 2007, 03:51 AM)
I'm glad you changed your website.  You should also edit the Fan Art topic you started, to credit the power of Ice for Solari.

I wish I didn't feel like opening this particular can of worms, but your website currently claims that you thought you were taking the idea of Solari from your friend (screencap).  If this is the case, how did you manage to come across this picture, linked by the power of Ice ages ago, and use it for your background without credit?

Well it seems to me that my friend whom i can't trust anymore gave me that so, now I know but the day racer was my idea though. So sorry for the frustration and confusion going on here.


Her friend gave her the picture, she says (or did, at the time I posted this reply).

Although "best friends" are a dime a dozen on the Internet, it would have been somewhat believable that Alexis had sufficient unawareness of her friend's artistic style to fail to realise that her friend did not create the art of the character; or alternatively, she could have been naive enough to assume it would be fine to display the image her friend found on her page without a credit.

However, deviantART is for one's own drawings. I cannot believe any member of deviantART could genuinely believe it to be "a fun place to display images you randomly picked up on the Internet". (Her best friend is not credited, either.) The evidence proves that Alexis deliberately stole Neemers' artwork. Naive I do think she is, but innocent she is not.

Her deviantART page contains other images not unlike those I have already noted to be plagiarised (although I can't say they all are) and to be frank I don't intend to waste the time writing another report on Alexis' tedious plagiarism. I encourage others who have more to do with deviantArt than I to report anything you recognize, though.




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