Alright. A couple of things that I thought of.

First, how obvious is it that Artha is the Dragon Booster or Moordryd the Shadow Booster?! They're the only two teens who actually know the mag-claw technique!

Second, how obvious is it that Decepshun is the Vysox?! They saw the Bone-mark on her?! How can they not tell that she's the Vysox?!

Third, how logical is it when you're hanging on a ledge about to fall to your doom that you hold on with both hands instead of one hand?! All the DB characters do that!

Or how come Artha and Lance couldn't figure out Mortis was their father. Or how come Mortis and Drakkus can't figure out who the other is. Or how come no one can figure out the red and blue Beau and the black and gold Beau are one in the same.

It's the same "logic" that exists in the comic book world where among other things, Lois Lane could never figure out Clark Kent was Superman even though Superman's "disguise" consisted of only donning a pair of glasses. :)

It's the kind of thing that's amusing to poke fun at, but there isn't much logic to it at all. It just is. :D

I thought that Drakkus and Mortis knew who each other was? :unsure: Don't they? :unsure:

Mortis and Drakkus have met before, possibly at the Academy or on the Elite race track (it's never been made clear), but they don't know each other's secret identity. Armeggaddon sort of implied he might know Drakkus is Word when he said, "So you do care," when Drakkus confronted him about Moordryd. It's not clear how Armeggaddon knew that, and if he can figure that out, how come he can't figure out Artha is the Dragon Booster? Silly villains. :)

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they're so silly



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silly, silly, villians. :P villians can be so silly :P I'm on a bit of a suger rush right now. Whew, biggest slurpee possible drank in under 5 minutes! Party in one! :P

Dude, "logic" and "Dragon City" do not belong in the same sentece...

Biggest give away that Arha is the DB is that he is allwayse hanging out with his crew. and mysteriously Artha is never around............Youd think that even a Dragoslug could figure that one out.

I would have to agree on that one.

True, but it's fun to poke fun at things like that. :P

It's always bothered me that no one notices how Beau has feaking glowing golden mag-streams! They're literally lit up for everyone to see saying "Hey looky over here I'm the Dragon of Legend! come capture me!"

Ive been thinking of this myself...........its always so obvious who people really are wether they wear a mask or a helmet or have a visor over their eyes.

First of all....Lance already knew that Beau chose Artha, when he came crashing out of the higher floors of the stable and landed near Lance and the bridge. Lance actually says "Beau chose you?" and then when the dragon eyes crew attack again (when Kit arrives) Lance seems to be oblivious to the fact that its Artha in that saddle.

Second, it only took Artha to reveal his eyes for parm and lance to see it was him.....its a visor.....you see nearly all of his face except where the visor is.

Third, as Elushun has said, Beau has a gold mag stream. Has nobody ever put two and two together? All of the other dragons have mag streams that reflect their bone colour (Kahta's blue dragons have blue mag streams, Decepshun is a psi-class and has a purple mag stream).

And thats another thing. Moordryd knows what Artha's dragon is called. He is called Beau. Word knows what DB's dragon is called. He's called Beau. now, correct me if I am wrong, but wouldnt you assume its the same dragon?

Plus, Word knows that Connor raised a gold-draconium boned dragon, as thats how he knew where to attack (the stables). You'd automatically assume that anything of Connor's (since he seems to have dissappeared, maybe died, at the start of the series) would be given to his Sons. And since Artha is the oldest, everything would go to him, not to Lance since he is still a little too young to have all that responsibility. Why kidnap Lance, when you'd kidnap the eldest because he'd be the most likely to know where the dragon of legend is?

I think Beau's chin would've given him away too; I mean, it sticks out a lot, you'd think that anyone could recognize that feature even though he changed color. His two little horns also don't change, you'd think people would notice. Did Word ever think to compare Beau and the black-and-gold dragon of Legend side by side? If he did, he probably wouldv'e come to that conclusion. At least Decepshun went through a little more elaborate transformation, with the spines and fangs and such.

Also, and I can't beleive that any superhero can get away with this, Moordryd and Artha's VOICE!!! I mean, Moordryd knows what Artha sounds like, and Artha knows what Moordryd sounds like, you'd think they'd recognize each other's voices. But it seems like any superhero can keep from being discovered by just wearing a mask. Like when they were battling for the bonemarks of the League of Eight, SB laughs and it sounds obviously like Moordryd's luagh (which it is) but ARtha doesn't pick up on that. I can't beleive it!

That also bugged me for the longest time, but I thought of a sloution. Since Conner (not sure of spelling) raised the Dragon of Legend, maybe people thought that Beau was a bother to the Dragon of Legend or in simple terms not a pure gold dragon. But when Artha does mag claw, there goes my theory out the window. :( Since the dragon must be very pure for their riders to do mag claw. After that people could have thought that Beau became pure, but I won't go there, my head is hurting :faint:

No cartoons have logic, its so stupid, but still fun to make fun of it.

I know, weird aint it? Artha and Moordryd have very distinct voices, you cant really compare anyone else with them. And especially when people are around them all the time, like Cain and Kitt( even though they know, they didnt at the start) , even Phistus, youd think that they'd be recognised by their voices.


I am so glad I am not the only one that doesnt get the whole 'Secret Identity being kept a secret' thing, in any TV show.

Yep, that's a tried and true super hero cliche. :) They had fun with that in "The Incredibles" as well: they wear these tiny little masks and nobody can tell who they are. :D And as I mentioned above, Superman just wore glasses! I mean, come'on Lois. Figure it out. :D

I suppose the same thing applies to Beau. Once he changes color, nobody is able to remember he otherwise looks the same as Artha's "other" dragon.

Here's a more subtle bit of weirdness: have you noticed that Beau's saddle changes color when he transforms?

Take a look at the saddle while Beau is red & blue:



and now when Beau is black and gold:



Now why would that happen (other than maybe Beau doesn't want his saddle to clash with his rider's clothing)? These screen shots are both from "Fanning the Flames", so Artha didn't change saddles anywhere.

I suppose one could argue that since the saddle is made out of draconium, it's somehow reacting to Beau's change. But then why doesn't other gear he has magged react as well?

The color change of the saddle is stylish, but doesn't make much sense.

I'm pretty sure Moordryd's saddle does the same thing. After all, he has a dragon eye right on it, and if people saw that, that would give him ties to the Dragon Eye crew. I think that it reacts to Beau's change. Saddles are more unique than the gears, which look exactly alike. So someone might recognize a saddle. So Beau and Decepshun probably somehow change the colours...somehow...

Yup, Dryd's saddle changes color when he trasforms too. It matches Vyzepshun's colors.

Other logic issues:

How come humans can't understand dragons? Dragons appear to have full comprehension of the human language, so why not the other way around? Propheci is proof that dragons can form grammatically correct sentences and that they think coherently in the same fashion as humans and can express their thoughts clearly. Dragons appear to have a language given Beau's vocalizations in "Horn of Libris", "All is Not Lost" and "The Stand". So why haven't humans learned the dragon language? If Beau can perfectly understand Artha, then he should be able to teach his language to Artha. (And if Artha's too dumb to learn :), then surely Connor or another dragon priest would have mastered the dragon language by now.)

If I ever met a sentient dragon, I'd certainly make an effort to learn its language. :)

Since people think dragons are just stupid and can simply be used as wonderful transportation, who would try to learn a whole new language on your own? Perhaps the language of dragons is just really complex, and no human can fully understand, yet it comes naturally to the dragons. Some people may try, but give up when they realize how difficult it is. Otherwise, I'd have fully expected the Dragon Priests or even Armeggy to know.

Its the same thing with dogs. They can understand us, to a certain extent, and react to what we say, yet we dont know what they are saying, except for the basic whimpering when scared, growling when angry or feeling threatened.

Im sure its the same situation here, but dragons have a better understanding of human language, but bridging the language barrier with dragons seems impossible, since many of the sounds that beau and the other dragons make sound exactly the same, much like the barkings of a dog.

I suppose that maybe you could be taught what a dragon is saying, but without psi-class gear to connect the dragon and rider (or orange control gear in Propheci's case) then understanding dragons will be harder than dragons understanding humans.

I never noticed that before, I just assumed it was the same colour from day racer and dragon of legend form. Its probably so that nobody can recognise the saddle and make the connection between Artha and DB, though the handles dont change that much, and they are VIDD game handles, that would be an indicator. Ive never seen another racer that uses VIDD game handles on the saddle.

You mean real world dogs or cartoon dogs? :) I've read that the smartest real dogs can learn about 100 or so commands which is pretty limited compared to the full command of the human language that dragons have.

Or maybe dragons use ultrasonics in their vocalizations. On the other hand, the humans have enough technology to be able to build devices to process and differentiate the sounds if need be.

The fact that dragons understand humans makes it a lot easier. The dragon can just point to various objects and give the vocalization for them until the human figures it out.

Yeah, the dragon priests really should have learned the language by now. They've had over three thousand years. Surely they could have made time to learn something that would be so important. After all, what else have they got to do all day? :D


Though I think the real reason the dragons don't talk directly is that talking animals in cartoons tend to look like Scooby Doo, and that would kind ruin the feel of the show. Maybe the creators just wanted to steer clear of that, and it saves them from having to write dialog for all the dragons. Fortunately, Propheci comes off as believable, but I wish we could hear what Beau has to say.

And honestly, nonvocal creature-characters can really work for a series. I mean look at pokemon, they have one of the most obnoxious dialogue methods I have ever seen. It's like Pika! Pika-chu! Pika-Pi! for like three hours, and yet it's still a very endearing series.

Yeah I was talking about real dogs, and you are right about many of those points. Seeing as humans can make gears that enhance both their own performance and their dragons, and so many other amazing gears, youd have expected someone to at least have made a basic dragon language translator.

lol...I love scooby doo, and I think maybe it wouldnt make it that believable or great for the over all image. PLus, since they do actually have a dragon that can talk directly to humans (but tends to talk to dragons more, except when pointing out their flaws) I guess its more believable.

it does make it less work for the producers/directors/voice artists, so they can make more of the series in a shorter time, which is good.

Or the fact that Drakkus is similar to Word with the dragon and voice. Same goes for Mortis.

Yeah, it would probably be a lot of work to retool the facial expression framework of all the dragons to enable them to talk. Of course they could just use the trick they did with propheci and use humans to speak for dragons, preventing the need for the dragon's actual mouth to speak.

That is so true. Cause Artha and Moordryd have quite unique voices.

BTW, love your siggy dragon fanatic. I love supernatural, and those quotes are really funny.


The only problem with making the humans speak for the dragons is that nobody would have a mind of their own. If you remember, Propheci takes control of his rider with the control gear.

Aww, thanks. :) Nice to meet Supernatural and Dragon Booster fans all the time. ^_^ (gives hug) I don't known too many people who like both! :P

Also, Artha's eyes change colour when he transforms. His eyes are definitely blue, but when we can see his whole face, as in, the visor seems to become lighter, his eyes are gold. I don't have a picture, but you can see it clearly in the first few minutes of Opposing Force.
And why hasn't anyone noticed Artha's gauntlet, which he proudly displays for all to see? Word has been up close to Artha, and since he was once a dragon-priest in training, you'd think he'd see it and recognise it.
Where does the light come from in Old city? Down City is always dark, and since Old city is miles below Down City you'd think it would be just as dark. But no! Some mysterious light from above is always there. And before you say it's just Ancient Draconium lights, why would they have them everywhere?
There are some serious plot holes in Dragon City. I think its time the writers filled them in.

To me, that eye changing color is pointless. No one else is able to figure him out so why should he bother.