Title: Who Did You Want To Get Into Academy?
Description: Who should've gone to Academy?
Dragon Fanatic - March 21, 2007 11:51 PM (GMT)
I wanted Kitt cause she's a really good racer and it would be better for her cause she's not a Booster. Not yet anyway...but she should still get to learn mag-claw and that other stuff.
Sarah Frost - March 21, 2007 11:58 PM (GMT)
Kitt. Absoutely. She's the one who actually worked for it; she deserves it more than the lucky idiots with sparkly dragons. And yet she's completely useless in most of the eps. *sigh*
IMO, she should've gone to the Academy right after the first few eps; maybe she could have won last competition and delayed her placing for a little while in order to earn more money racing. That way we could have assumed her to be doing Interesting And Pro-Active Things off-screen rather than being reduced to Artha's cheerleader on-screen, and she could have still come down to help her friends in those eps where she actually did something useful.
Or else she could have been the one to make it to the Academy, not Artha--why not have her be the one bringing her Crew with her, in the process teaching Artha the Moral Lesson that sometimes he needs to rely on his friends? He's the hero off the racetrack, but there's no reason why she couldn't have been the one to win the prize in the end if she was the best on the streets to start with.
It really...does a disservice to her, IMO, that she's only in the Academy on Artha's skills. Reduces her. I hated that bit in Damaged Goods when he was racing and she was only cheering him from a distance--she's just such a pointless character now, and when she tried to protest this in Slithercorp Artha had to save her. Again.
Liliwen - March 22, 2007 12:16 AM (GMT)
At first I was going to choose Moordryd. He's been racing longer than Artha and obviously really tries, yes, even though he cheats. And he's talented with the mag-moves and such.
In the end I vote Kitt. It would've been nice for her to show how useful she is. It would've been cool for her to compete against Moordryd for the final academy spot and then tie with him. Artha can be the one cheering on the sidelines for her. ^_^
dolphinliss - March 22, 2007 12:54 AM (GMT)
well, of course Artha had to get in because he's the hero of the story. i was going to vote for kitt for all the same reasons you all did. i voted for Artha because he has fought Moordryd on the track and in booster form, has risked injuring himself serious to get in(Damaged Goods), and is very persistant(the definat).
Sarah Frost - March 22, 2007 01:08 AM (GMT)
Kitt was the previous champion. She must have fought Moordryd, and of course she's persistent, not having a special dragon to take her from complete rookie to famous racer in mere weeks. Artha obviously needed to get in, but it should have been because of Kitt rather than vice versa.
Natalilly - March 22, 2007 02:09 AM (GMT)
Moordryd. Because I'm spiteful and enjoy the idea of Moordryd getting it and Artha not- and the kick to Artha's ego gonads that would cause. I hate heroes.
I'm being bitchy (am I allowed to say that?) but Kitt ceased becoming Kitt Wonn, number one down city racer the moment she joined Penn racing, and got demoted to "Artha's cheer squad". She effectively stabbed herself in the foot.
It would have been nice to see her get rewarded for her years and years of racing, though.
Seriously though, I'm more interested in the Acadamy's effect on the characters, rather then who deserves to get in... Artha won't change, he'll still be Ego-noble-selfrightious-painfully-good boy. Kitt would also remain the same, as they have thoughout the series. There's little room for heroes to change, because of their character structure.
I could see the Academy having a great deal of influence on Moordryd, though. he's been changing rapidly, lately, which is very exciting for me as a character analysist, and the academy might effect him even more. First of all it'd be a great confidence boost. We've seen him start to rebuild his confidence since he became Shadow Booster. Probably because it's proof he can do something on his own, AND his because of his father's approval of him in that form. (Despite his current rebellions, he still seems to live for his father's approval) Which also means he's more certain of his own skills and is cutting back on his cheating. I'd also be curious to see if it had an effect on his temper. At the moment, he (quite understandably) acts like a rebellious teenager- a few rounds of Academy training might have an interesting effect.
I'd also be interested to see if it effected the ever facinating relationship between him and his father, which is also changing rapidly. Word wants Moordryd to get in, desperately. would he be more openly approving of his son?
Anyway, you've lead me into my feild- character analasys, so i better stop now or I'll go on for hours XD
Draconium - March 22, 2007 03:49 AM (GMT)
i pick artha because he has the biggest job to do in the whole series, and he could use all the training he can get.
Sarah Frost - March 22, 2007 03:57 AM (GMT)
No, obviously Artha needs to go there. It's just that I think Kitt should have won her way into it, either pre-series as a means of enabling her to do cool stuff offscreen rather than sitting around being surplus to plot requirements or end of series as the object lesson that sometimes heroes need to rely on their friends. She was the race champion before cheating rookie Artha with the special dragon and Moordryd with his special dragon and special tutor; it'd have been much fairer to her to put her in at the end.
(Especially when Vociferous apparently made it to the Academy finals while she cheered Artha on. I mean, Vociferous? Isn't he kind of incompetent?)
Natalilly - March 22, 2007 04:31 AM (GMT)
It IS obvious Artha has to get in for plot reasons. I mean, it's obvious the whole plot arc was simply a set up for Artha to get in.
Doesn't mean I like it.
I like Moordryd from a character perspective, he's a level of complexity that's rarely- if ever seen in western toons, so i tend to favour him a lot, simply to prod some more interesting characterization out of him. Though i think he'd irritate the heck out of me in real life.
Though, at the rate he's learning independantly, compared to Artha, he won't need the academy. Though that's now in question seeing Armeggadon want to kill him.
Looking at it from a purely fairness point of view, both Artha and Moordryd should have been disqualified and just let the others race. I wouldn't be sure who deserved to get in until I saw them race without getting walloped when they came between Artha and Moordryd's private battles on the track.
Artha's just as much a cheat as Moordryd... and he doesn't even have the insanely overbaring pressure of a father's ridculous expectations to use as an excuse.
Shiroi_Neko - March 22, 2007 05:14 AM (GMT)
KITT WONN, WoOT!!
Okay seriously, if the academy has another space to fill in someone worthy, it would be her. She's a normal racer, experienced, mature, maybe not outstanding but she got the fire to be an elite racer. So I vote for her, nya ^^
Airshadow - March 22, 2007 05:24 AM (GMT)
I voted for Kitt, she's more skillful than Artha and more honorable than moordryd
The Furox - March 22, 2007 08:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Natalilly @ Mar 21 2007, 07:09 PM) |
| I could see the Academy having a great deal of influence on Moordryd |
Definitely. Moordryd's going to change a lot in the next season I think. Especially since he and Artha had a joint vision of working together. I hope Moordryd stays an anti-hero even though we've known for a long time that Moordryd will be part of the solution to preventing the dragon-human war in some way.
| QUOTE |
| Probably because it's proof he can do something on his own |
Though not completely on his own, of course. Moordryd had what is probably the most powerful and dangerous of the ancient warriors as his mentor. Armeggaddon also gave Moordryd the Dragon Eye amulet and lead him to the gauntlet, and brought him to the bonemark of Vysox that allowed him to amp-up Decepshun. If it wasn't for Armeggaddon, Moordryd would still be his father's lackey and errand boy.
The thing I didn't expect in the story line was for Moordryd to begin to turn his back on Armeggaddon (beginning in "Cain's Mutiny") before Armeggaddon could use him for whatever he has in mind. I always expected Moordryd to stay loyal to Armeggaddon until at some point when Armeggaddon's full plan became obvious. Not a bad thing, of course. Unexpected is good. Speaking of which...
As has been said, we always knew Artha would get into the Academy, and ever since season 2, it's been fairly clear that Moordryd would as well. Kitt deserves to go, too. Since I knew they'd go one way or another, I couldn't get too excited about voting for them for the purposes of this poll. I couldn't vote for Phistus or Wulph either since they both have somewhat one sided techniques that seem to limit them. So I voted "Other". :)
In particular, I'd like to see Propheci and Reepyr go! :dance: You'd have to alter the story line to make it fit, of course, but this poll is about who do I want to get into the Academy, and I want to see Propheci go. :) Let's assume for a moment that after "Track of Doom" he and Reepyr suddenly showed up in Dragon City and started entering races. There'd be all sorts of speculation and suspicion about possible ulterior motives. The story line could also raise issues of fear and prejudice against orange dragons by the other racers. The Academy might even try to stop him from racing, until someone (probably Connor) points out that there is no rule against orange dragons competing and going to the Academy. And we've never seen a dragon with more determination than Propheci, so we know he'd be good at racing. :) He could probably get in if he really wanted to.
I just think that could make such a fun and unexpected twist to the story. Go Propheci! :dance:
Natalilly - March 22, 2007 08:47 AM (GMT)
ooh, Propheci and Reepyr would be facinating, though yes, you'd have to take a mash hammer to the storyline to make it fit.
I expected Moordryd to brush off Armaggedon. The whys and wherefores tripped me up, I really didn't expect Cain to have that much influence on moordryd (but it's nice- i like surprises) but the mutiny was waiting to happen. Armeggadon is just a hyped up version of Word without the faint paternal instinct. It's getting clear that Moordryd is quickly growing sick of being used as a pawn.
Rivit - March 26, 2007 08:16 AM (GMT)
I voted for Moordryd because if you take Artha he has 4 boosters on his side (Dragon booster, Power Booster, Fire Booster and Blue Booster). Poor Moordryd has only one booster on his side (Shadow Booster). So, It would be fair if he getz into the Academy. But we already know both Artha and Moordryd are into the academy..!!
Dragon Fanatic - April 3, 2007 12:32 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| In particular, I'd like to see Propheci and Reepyr go! |
haha! :lol: Propheci at Academy! :lol: What fun that would be! ^_^ I can see the chaos now! ;)
dolphinliss - April 3, 2007 03:19 AM (GMT)
ha, that would be hilarious. i thing, in battle for the ages during the very beginning why is Khatah racing to get into the Academy? i thought he already went there :unsure:
The Furox - April 3, 2007 04:51 AM (GMT)
That's a good question. I hadn't noticed that. Seems like a possible continuity error.
koering - April 3, 2007 04:51 AM (GMT)
honestly i thought kitt wonn would be getting into the acadamey along with artha
The Furox - April 3, 2007 07:55 AM (GMT)
Oh, she gets included as part of Artha's crew. I'm assuming Parm's going as well. Not sure what Lance will do though. :unsure:
Katana - April 4, 2007 06:09 PM (GMT)
Of course I wish Mordryd gets into the Academy but, Individually Kitt was the best racer, an has more experience.
Dragon Fanatic - May 19, 2007 06:10 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| Oh, she gets included as part of Artha's crew. I'm assuming Parm's going as well. Not sure what Lance will do though. |
Maybe he'll get advancded racing skills. :unsure:
The Hydrag - May 19, 2007 06:56 PM (GMT)
Well, I think that Artha obviously had to get into the Academy but I think that Kitt should have been the one to winn the entry. She is faster and more agile. Only reason Artha made it in over her is that Beau has all those powers and has a stockier build so he can battle better. Lance will either go to live with his dad in the dragon temple or he will accompany his brother into the academy. It might be pretty cool though if he does live in the dragon temple with his dad and other Dragon Priests. He would then have the opportunity to possibly get more powerfull than the DB or even SB. Perhaps then once he is found worthy the Dragon priests would give him the Blue Draconium Gauntlett. After all they did give Parm his, they also gave the DB amulet to Conner to take care of So why wouldnt they have the BDG.
Nayade - May 20, 2007 03:04 AM (GMT)
Definitly Kitt Wonn, she had more experience, she wins races without cheating and with no super powers. Is obviously that Artha was to get in the Academy, but I would have liked to see Kitt to enter to the Academy by herself.
Shining-Dragon - May 20, 2007 04:08 PM (GMT)
i voted for kitt. she was way better than artha
The Great Grey - June 14, 2007 11:57 PM (GMT)
Sorry all you Kitt lovers I don't think she shouldn't get into the Academy. She is too cocky for me. Kitt thinks that she is soo much better then everyone eles.
Sarah Frost - June 15, 2007 09:17 PM (GMT)
Put Kitt back in her place?
Sorry, but I'm getting a really creepy and sexist vibe off that one.
Kitt is confident in the first episode. This is because she is a hardworking orphan who has become the best street racer entirely of her own skills with no Crew to support her, and she's leading the point standings to prove it. However, she's certainly not big-headed enough to refuse to help the stableboy--and as soon as he starts winning through her help and advice, he doesn't even give her the credit for it! Artha's big head betrays him in ways Kitt's confidence certainly doesn't. Did Kitt fall into the trap of assuming a sponsor adored her for her brilliance and had no true motive whatsoever? Did Kitt give in to the hype surrounding her as Best Street Racer and let Vociferous usher her into a trap? Does Kitt invite Moordryd (or her rival of choice) to do something potentially disastrous to prove an ego point? Does Kitt rely on the Dragon of Legend and not practice nearly as much as she should?
Compared to Artha, her ego is utterly non-existent--and she helps feed Artha's! (Cf. the last few epsiodes in particular, when all she does is cheer him on! I'd like to be pointed to the bit where Bighead Boy bothers to encourage her in racing.)
And she's already been humbled a good deal in canon, taking a seat a good way behind the Artha/Moordryd rivalry when by rights she (without special powers or a rich father, without cheating) should be in top position.
Maybe she shot herself in the foot because she wuvs Artha so much and it's her own fault, but the writers have already ripped into her enough. She went from best street racer to useless in the majority of episodes and out of the competition entirely in Slithercorp--she's in her place as a tagalong damsel in distress, and it sucks. She deserved the Academy.
The Great Grey - June 15, 2007 10:35 PM (GMT)
Sorry, I will watch my use of words. (Wouldn't want to be kicked off the fourm, but thanks for telling what I did was bad. I am sorry if made anyone feel bad, I feel really bad.). She is not as a hot head compared to Artha thats for sure. Kitt does have it hard when Moordryd zaps her out of the Acamemy races after she helps Artha win the race.
Khatah - June 16, 2007 04:01 AM (GMT)
I think that Artha should be in the acedemy because well hes the Dragon Booster. He needs training if he wants to stop the Dragon-Human War.
Dragon Fanatic - July 21, 2007 09:43 PM (GMT)
The reason Kitt got out of Academy on her individual skill is because speshul Artha couldn't save himself with his speshul dragon and then he goes and wins the race and he doesn't care about Kitt or acknowledge her help. All she gets is 'I owe you one' or something like that! Where is the fairity in that?!
black and gold dragon - July 28, 2007 10:52 AM (GMT)
yes kitt but i chose artha. there are reasonins to cancel out kitt. yes she worked for it. but artha is the dragon booster and he needs the training more than kitt.
like i said in a nother topic. only not in these words.ARTHA IS A JERK! CREDIT TAKING SNIBBLING SNOT NOSE PRAT! not giving credit where credit is due should be against the law in dragon city.
Dragon Fanatic - July 28, 2007 02:15 PM (GMT)
Woo-hoo! Someone else just insulted Artha as nearly bad as me! Take that Canon Sue!
Da Suga Queen - July 29, 2007 05:05 AM (GMT)
This was a tough one for me. I wasn't going to vote Artha cause I hate him, but I wanted Kitt to get in, but for some reason she sucked in all the races when she was always the best racer before, so I thought she deserved it, but then again, Moordryd's so cool and awesome and I would love to see what Decepshun looked like after her mutation thingy.
But then there's Wulph; I've always kind of liked him because of how unpredictable he is. You never know what he's gonna do, and Phistus has a funny bald head and can murderise people with that hammer of his...
In the end I voted Moordryd. Because I'm a loyal fangirl.
Dragon Fanatic - August 4, 2007 02:09 AM (GMT)
The only reason Kitt wasn't racing her best was because Moordryd and Artha were laying the mag moves and playing relatively dirty.
Fire Booster - August 10, 2007 05:07 PM (GMT)
I wanted Kitt to go because it would've been a chance for her to show Artha that she was a better racer then him. Also it would've been cool if she had found the Fire Booster's amulet and gaunlet in the academy. That would've been cool. Also she could've learned more then Artha in her time at the academy.
Dragon Fanatic - September 8, 2007 06:13 PM (GMT)
Learn more? If she had the mag moves, she would've dominated the racetrack and got into Academy effortlessly!
Deathshallcome - September 8, 2007 06:41 PM (GMT)
Maybe.... and maybe not, remember there are tracks that she is not good on. Everyone has weaknesses. And also Artha would need it more cuz if he did not get into the acadamy its quite possible that he could have been killed and so would Beau because they would lack the skills and the training to stop the war and then word would have been successful in ruling the world.
Dragon Fanatic - September 8, 2007 09:32 PM (GMT)
Artha need it more? He's a stuck up spoiled brat.
And Kitt dominates whatever track she's on!
Deathshallcome - September 8, 2007 09:35 PM (GMT)
DF.... yer still not getting it. Kitt may deserve it but she was not chosen. If she was it would have be entirely a different story. Artha needs the training more then kitt does because she does not have the responsiblity that Artha. If he cannot get the trainning that is neccery there is a high chance that kitt could die during the war. Everyone would possiblely get killed. And techoncaly she is not the best on every track. She has her own flaws as well. The only track we know of that she is really good at is the fire caves. It says so in the first episode.
Dragon Fanatic - September 8, 2007 09:38 PM (GMT)
Artha's lazy. He'd only stop the war cause he'd get grounded by Connor.
And Kitt will survive on her own. I mean, she's got the know hows and street smarts. Artha has none of that.
There's only one track that Kitt has failed on 'The Extreme G' but that's because they all cheated.
Deathshallcome - September 8, 2007 09:43 PM (GMT)
Ya don't get it. She may be street smart but she knows nothing of what could happen in war. Kitt has a high possiblity of being killed either that or Wyldfyr would die protecting Kitt. Artha needs it more then she does. And thats what you are not getting. Artha may be a snot and a jerk but he has a ton or responsiblities that Kitt does not have. She has no idea of the feeling that if you make one wrong move everyone is dead. And also I do think Kitt deserves to go into the acadamy but when I look at all the responsiblities that Artha has compared to Kitt. It shows he has more pressure then Kitt could ever have or felt. And Artha also needs it so he can save everyone. Kitts would go to waste because she has no special responsbilities and stuff she has to do.