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DragonBooster500 - December 23, 2006 02:46 AM (GMT)
I had an interesting idea...since I am a fan of the Eragon books and of DragonBooster, I decided to try and make Saphira but in DB style:
user posted image
Hope you like her!
Credit goes to Razoric Dragon for the template!

Salazaar - December 27, 2006 05:19 AM (GMT)
She's Drac!! :cookie:
Although I always thought of her having less of the silvery stuff down her back and no whiskers on her snout. Maby try a Beau template, and make it bulkier...

Nemi the Nen - December 27, 2006 06:40 AM (GMT)
1) You mis-colored. The space under her wisker and to her crest is not part of her body, it is negative area. Also: you left a 'hole' just to the right of the base of her neck.

2) Eragon is a step off of plagerisim. Compare it to Star Wars episode 4.

Empire is headed up by a man who was once prominate and respected. Orphan boy lives on a farm on the outskirts of said empire. A princess of the rebellion sends a vital object to an old man who was part of the same respected organization as the emperor's second in command. However, it comes into the boy's posession.

The Boy meets up with the old man to learn the ways of his organization and starts to 'see' the princess calling for help and decides to rescue her. Boy eventually returns home, which has been burnt and his uncle killed. Old man and Boy meet a rouge who is good hearted despite apearances. The old man dies saving the boy and the boy goes on to bring the vital information/thing to the resistance/princess.

...I could go on, infact I practacally cut and pasted that from a website ( http://www.anti-shurtugal.com/starwars.htm ). Replace Brom with Obi Wan, Eragon with Luke, Murtagh with Han Solo, Arya with Leia and so forth and pop it into a faux medieval world.

SilverDragon - December 27, 2006 07:48 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nemi the Nen @ Dec 27 2006, 04:40 PM)
2) Eragon is a step off of plagerisim. Compare it to Star Wars episode 4.

Empire is headed up by a man who was once prominate and respected. Orphan boy lives on a farm on the outskirts of said empire. A princess of the rebellion sends a vital object to an old man who was part of the same respected organization as the emperor's second in command. However, it comes into the boy's posession.

The Boy meets up with the old man to learn the ways of his organization and starts to 'see' the princess calling for help and decides to rescue her. Boy eventually returns home, which has been burnt and his uncle killed. Old man and Boy meet a rouge who is good hearted despite apearances. The old man dies saving the boy and the boy goes on to bring the vital information/thing to the resistance/princess.

...I could go on, infact I practacally cut and pasted that from a website ( http://www.anti-shurtugal.com/starwars.htm ). Replace Brom with Obi Wan, Eragon with Luke, Murtagh with Han Solo, Arya with Leia and so forth and pop it into a faux medieval world.

I know the Inheritance series is very much plagiarism, but why is that a fault in a freakin' piece of FANART? (The DB!Saphira, not the Inheritance series.)

She does look very drac indeed. ^^

The Furox - December 27, 2006 05:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nemi the Nen @ Dec 26 2006, 10:40 PM)
2) Eragon is a step off of plagerisim.  Compare it to Star Wars episode 4.

Though Lucas' story idea for Star Wars wasn't completely original either. :)

He based it off the samurai films of Akira Kurosawa, including "The Hidden Fortress". He basically adapted the story from these Japanese samurai movies and made them into an outer space sci-fi adventure more closely aligned with western culture. Lucas even copied a cantina scene where someone gets their arm cut off with a sword. And Lucas derived the word "Jedi" from the Japanese "Jidai Geki" which refers to samurai movies. But then Kurosawa was said to borrow ideas for his samurai movies from American westerns and detective stories! So perhaps we should say that Eragon inherits from those instead. :D

Check out this link for the Akira Kurosawa/Star Wars relationship.

Ultimately, I think there are very few original story ideas. Every writer is influenced by what they've read and seen, and they just add some of their own inspiration to the mix.

Sorry if I'm venturing too far off topic. :) I'll stop now.

Oh, and nice dragon, DragonBooster500! :cookie:

dRagOniDe - December 27, 2006 05:50 PM (GMT)
She's cool :0! I'm planning on doing a baby Saphira (got the idea from ICE =P)

And yea... we are discussing about the MOVIE... in a FAN ART section.. yep ...

Very cool, good job!

Nemi the Nen - December 28, 2006 02:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Furox @ Dec 28 2006, 03:49 AM)
QUOTE (Nemi the Nen @ Dec 26 2006, 10:40 PM)
2) Eragon is a step off of plagerisim.  Compare it to Star Wars episode 4.

Though Lucas' story idea for Star Wars wasn't completely original either. :)

He based it off the samurai films of Akira Kurosawa, including "The Hidden Fortress". He basically adapted the story from these Japanese samurai movies and made them into an outer space sci-fi adventure more closely aligned with western culture. Lucas even copied a cantina scene where someone gets their arm cut off with a sword. And Lucas derived the word "Jedi" from the Japanese "Jidai Geki" which refers to samurai movies. But then Kurosawa was said to borrow ideas for his samurai movies from American westerns and detective stories! So perhaps we should say that Eragon inherits from those instead. :D

Check out this link for the Akira Kurosawa/Star Wars relationship.

Ultimately, I think there are very few original story ideas. Every writer is influenced by what they've read and seen, and they just add some of their own inspiration to the mix.

Sorry if I'm venturing too far off topic. :) I'll stop now.

Oh, and nice dragon, DragonBooster500! :cookie:

Ah yes, all art is Derivitive.

The diffrence between Star Wars being inspired and inheriting things from Akira Kurosawa's, and even taking parts of them for his own, and the Inheritance trilogy taking things from Star Wars is a mater of scale.

There is a line between archtype and plagerisim and the Inheritance trilogy so SO crosses that line and stomps it into nothingness. There's nothing orginal in the serries so far, besides the glaring mistakes. Maybe there's something, probably not. Look. If I took Harry Potter and ran through it with the Find Replace function and changed it to...I don't know, some sci fi setting where certain people have a mechanical empathy and need to learn to use it early (Crafters school of Electronics and Metallurgy?) , flipped the names around, then went through and evened out the edges so it made sence, wouldn't it be plagerisim still?

Hell, people have legimete complaints about JKR stealing from Neil Gaiman and she did less than Paolini did to Star Wars.

I brought it up because the OP said he was a fan of the serries, and it's a crime to waste your time on that when there are better stories out there.

Sarah Frost - December 28, 2006 06:09 AM (GMT)
I agree, though afaik Eragon isn't just lifted from Star Wars but from Tolkien and maybe Anne McCaffrey as well--it's a highly derivative form of a plot we've seen so many times before in recent years. There are more original versions of the "peasant boy finds Destiny capital d" plot. Harry Potter, for one, which takes as well the 'magic school' idea used in some of Jane Yolen's work, Discworld and the Worst Witch series, but is not plagiarism. From the link, it seems that Star Wars was influenced rather than plagiarised, and, yes, there are approximately thirty-six basic plots in existence. DB is also quite derivative of basic cliches, more so than HP, and the world is basically modern America plus dragons, but at least it doesn't directly rip off anything that I know of.

There's a well-known and extremely well-written HP fic out there, which has the basic plot as follows: "Harry accidentally places Draco under the Imperius curse and can't remove it, then realises he's fallen in love/lust with him. Is this relationship dysfunctional or very dysfunctional?" I have an unfinished fanfic on my harddrive which has the same basic theme of consent issues--but with two different characters from another fandom, a fandom-specific situation, a slightly more complicated plot, and my own prose. I think that's a case of vague inspiration of a very basic plotline rather than the more shameless Eragon ripoffs.

And yes, nice dragon. :)

Shearkin - January 1, 2007 02:36 AM (GMT)
teh template you useed ( verry nice colloring I might say ) was of a dragon named Clefspeare form a book searies (some one's fan drawing) "dragon in our midst" i was just scrolling throu the pic's when I saw it and I was like"hey hey I saw that pictuer as saphier !!!!!!!" sorry I jsut got alittle caried away :P
~Shearkin




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