Title: What's Up With Beau!!
Description: I'm confused, with the colors and the...
Salazaar - December 11, 2006 03:02 AM (GMT)
I'm really confused.
In the choosing, part 1, Beau is a black and gold Dragon with gold draconium bones, but not the Black and Gold Dragon of legend, he's just a gold dragon that can mag all gear types..... ok
Then, when Beau busts through the wall to save Artha, Artha gets on Beau, and the little star mark appears on Beau's forehead, saying that Beau's the Dragon Of legend, and that Artha was chosen to be the Dragon Booster......ok
Then, when Artha gets the gaunlett and gets in the gold draconium armour, and then he and Beau go and fight Moordryd and his crew to save Parm, Lance, and Kitt, and Beau roars and then he gets the frill/fin things on his chin, and ankles and tail. Why didn't he have them when Artha was chosen and Beau was revealed to be the Black and Gold Dragon of legend?
Then, in the eppisode when Artha (as dragon booster) and Beau (as black and gold dragon of legend) get hit by the Shadow Booster's energy drain thing and they escape and Beau roars in agony and he like fades from his B/G dragon of legend form to his daily racing form, and then back to his B/G dragon of legend form. Also, Artha's armour fades from gold draconium armour to everyday racing and then back to gold draconium. I don't get that! Is it like saying that their energy is SO drained that they can't hold their powerful forms? because of they are, it doesn't make sense!! Cuz Artha's armour is just strong armour. Why, if his energy is drained, would it fade away and then come back? It's just armour. Why would it rely on Artha's energy to stay on him or not? I mean, he didn't have any strong draconium powers in the choosing part 2 when he first gets the armour. Why would it rely on his power and the Dragon of Legend's power to stay on him? And with Beau! Why would he, if his energy is SO drained, go back to everyday racing form? He only changed color so he could race with Artha! He's still the Dragon Of Legend!! Why do they make it look like his R/B form is weaker than his B/G form? He's the same dragon, just a different color!! He should be able to change into B/G Beau when ever he feels like it, not only with the gaunlett! He didn't need the gauntlett in the choosong part 1 to change his Color from the B/G dragon of legend with the little star mark on his forehead and no fins or frills, to everyday racing Beau without any fins, frills, or little star marks. Why is there like three forms of Beau? There's everyday racing Beau,(Which is the dragon of legend just without the fins and frills, as seen in the choosing part 1 when he chooses Artha and he get's the star mark on his forehead and nothing else.) there's the Dragon Of Legend Beau w/ fins, frills, and star mark, and then there's Dragon of legend Beau who has no fins, frills, but does have little star mark.
I don't get it when in the stand, When Beau's a wraith dragon but he's R/B Beau, and Artha's dragon booster, and beau doesn't change, and Artha calls to him and the gold draconium flows through the ground and frees R/B Beau from the wraith gear and then when he breaks the wraith gear, he's the Black and Gold Dragon like he is in the choosing part 1, (although I think he has the little star mark on his forehead) and then he roars and the frill appears on his chin and then he runs to Artha and he has the frills on his ankles and tail.
I just don't understand why when Beau's energy was drained, he flashed from dragon of legend w/ frills and star mark, to red and blue Beau with no frills or star mark then back to dragon of legend w/ frills and star mark.
Why didn't he turn back into his original black and gold dragon in the choosing part 1 when he wasn't the dragon of legend yet, or to his dragon of legend form (Which is everyday racing Beau) without the frills and but has the little star mark?
That just confuses me................
koering - December 17, 2006 06:33 PM (GMT)
you do make a lot of sense. And the armor thing probobly is liked to artha in a way. And in the stand when artha put his armor on it probobly changes beau too but since the wraith gear was still on him beau just stayed dark purple .but it is probobly one of thos things that we will never find out. one of the great mystrys of life.
Salazaar - December 17, 2006 07:12 PM (GMT)
*sighs with relief*
THANK YOU!
I thought no one would ever reply!!
We probably never will figure out what's up with the colors and the forms and etc.
Maby it was just a coincidence or something, but I still stand by what I said before.....But I don't want to type it again! :D :D
Thanks for replying,Koering. :)
I guess it's a little clearer..... :unsure:
(Not) :faint:
Liliwen - December 17, 2006 08:25 PM (GMT)
One reason why I didn't reply before was because I had no answer whatsoever. :P But I'll try...
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Then, when Artha gets the gaunlett and gets in the gold draconium armour, and then he and Beau go and fight Moordryd and his crew to save Parm, Lance, and Kitt, and Beau roars and then he gets the frill/fin things on his chin, and ankles and tail. Why didn't he have them when Artha was chosen and Beau was revealed to be the Black and Gold Dragon of legend?
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Its been a long time since I saw episode one, but could it just be an animation error or something?
Maybe the reason why when Beau's energy was being drained and he flashed back to his original form was because it requires some sort of energy to hold his legend form or to make the gauntlet work...
koering - December 17, 2006 09:59 PM (GMT)
oh and Salazaar I agree when you said " I don't want to type it again" I can't blame you . That was a lot of typing. :D How long did it take you. (just curious)
Salazaar - December 17, 2006 10:12 PM (GMT)
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| How long did it take you. (just curious) |
Heh...
Well, it took me a while to get my thoughts in order (And It still sounds confusing to me, even though I typed it! :D ), but probably.............about 15-20 minutes once I got my thoughts into a barely understandible post....
Heh heh heh...... ^_^
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| when Beau's energy was being drained and he flashed back to his original form |
That wasn't his Original form!!!!!!!!!!
Beau's original form was just a black and gold dragon!
With no special abilties except that he could mag all gear types!
He wasn't the black and gold dragon of legend yet.
Atleast considering what Connor said.....
Hang on,..........gotta find the transcript..... :D
*mumbbles obscenities*
koering - December 17, 2006 10:14 PM (GMT)
wow that could get pretty boreing after a while, but hey you might as well finish wat you sarted. Am i right? :D
Salazaar - December 17, 2006 10:28 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I guess you're right...
*Mumbbles something obscene again*
Ok, I found the D*mn trancsript...
Connor:To keep safe in case anything happens. If Beau is the Dragon of Legend and he chooses, the very same star-mark will emerge on his head. If that happens, give that amulet to the chosen one. The one Beau chooses will be the Dragon Booster!
See?
Beau wasn't the dragon of legend yet, until he chose Artha and the little star mark appeared on his forhead, then he was the dragon of legend.
So the red and blue, every day racing form, wasn't Beau's original form, that was just a disguise he took on when he was the dragon of legend so Artha could race him, but he was still the dragon of legend!! And that's why I'm still a little bit confused...........
koering - December 17, 2006 10:44 PM (GMT)
that was sort of a toung twister. and this is just a guess.when beau is in racing form it block out some of his powers and he has less energy. So like when on when oppisites attract when shadow booster uses the energy drain beau flashes to day racing for then back to the dragon of legend form it might be a bit easier to be in day racing form than dragon of legen form........ oh wait that makes no sense. great now you got me confused salazaar! I get my head straight soon. :faint:
Salazaar - December 17, 2006 10:49 PM (GMT)
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| oh wait that makes no sense. |
*giggling*
No, it doesn't!!
If his dragon of legend form is stronger, than wouldn't he be stronger when he's in it? And still, the every day racing Beau form is just the dragon of legend as seen in the choosing part one, just a different color...
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| great now you got me confused salazaar! |
:lol: LOL!!
That's what I do best!!
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| I get my head straight soon. |
Still working on that, myself!!
LOL!! :lol:
koering - December 17, 2006 10:56 PM (GMT)
great that mekes me so confident salazaar!
Salazaar - December 17, 2006 11:07 PM (GMT)
(you're being sarcastic, right? Cuz if you aren't, this might be offensive or something,)
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| great that mekes me so confident salazaar! |
Your Welcome!!
LOL!! :lol: :D :lol:
koering - December 17, 2006 11:16 PM (GMT)
yeah i am being sarcatic. :D why wouldent i be ^_^
Salazaar - December 17, 2006 11:40 PM (GMT)
I dunno...... :unsure:
heh heh heh... :D :P :D
koering - December 17, 2006 11:45 PM (GMT)
Salazaar - December 17, 2006 11:49 PM (GMT)
Ok, let's get back on the "What's up with Beau" topic before LF deletes this thread for being off topic! (Not that I wasn't enjoying our conversation! :D :D )
Ok, I can't think of any thing else.........
hmmm......... :plot:
koering - December 18, 2006 05:11 AM (GMT)
:plot: ...hmmmmm.... :plot:
Liliwen - December 18, 2006 06:17 PM (GMT)
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See? Beau wasn't the dragon of legend yet, until he chose Artha and the little star mark appeared on his forhead, then he was the dragon of legend.
So the red and blue, every day racing form, wasn't Beau's original form, that was just a disguise he took on when he was the dragon of legend so Artha could race him, but he was still the dragon of legend!! And that's why I'm still a little bit confused........... |
I have no idea why I referred to him flashing back to his original form, this is kinda confusing. :P I got messed up, I guess I just got used to seeing him in red and blue more than seeing him black and gold and called that his original form. Not sure if that makes sense. My bad. :D
Wait, black and gold is Beau's original form then. Blue and red is his disguise which he turns to. Okay. In the choosing when he first changes, does he power down from his legend form? Why does he apparently loose some of his abilties in his racing form. eg. in When Darkness Falls, evil pure black dragons are beating him in his racing form. Then Artha says something like time for the dragon of legend. Then Beau powers up and starts to win. So his racing form is weaker. Why? Didn't he just change colours? Or am I wrong in saying his racing form is weaker?
So in Opposites Attract and he flashes back to his racing form when his energy is being drained, does this mean he needs energy to hold his original form and not his weaker form? Why would he need energy to hold his original form and not his disguise form? Does this even make sense?
koering - December 19, 2006 12:01 AM (GMT)
Destiny - December 21, 2006 04:41 AM (GMT)
Well, for the energy drain thing, I think that Beau made a sorta dumb move. If he canged back into the Racing form, then his identity would be exposed. If he turned into B/G form he would be okay. Either way Artha would lose his armor. He should go into normal B/G form instead of Racing form. Well it IS his normal form. My only guess is that once Beau chose Artha and changed colors, he was unable to go into normal B/G form. Kinda like how Decepshun could only go into her pure black colors at first when Moordryd put the amulet in the gauntlet.
Salazaar - December 21, 2006 11:48 PM (GMT)
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| He should go into normal B/G form instead of Racing form. |
Maby he can't do that...
Maby after he was turned into Dragon of legend, his other form was like erased from his DNA, or something.....or maby he just turned into Dragon of legend and that was it, and Every day racing Beau was the only sign the writers could do to show that Beau was majorly weakened.... I dunno....
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| In the choosing when he first changes, does he power down from his legend form? Why does he apparently loose some of his abilties in his racing form. eg. in When Darkness Falls, evil pure black dragons are beating him in his racing form. Then Artha says something like time for the dragon of legend. Then Beau powers up and starts to win. So his racing form is weaker. Why? Didn't he just change colours? Or am I wrong in saying his racing form is weaker? |
I dunno..
Maby he can use his abilities more openly when in B/G Dragon of legend form...
I think in ways it is weaker, but that's weird considering that the R/B form is just the Dragon of legend in a different color scheme...hmm..
Maby he just blocks out some powers cuz he needs more energy...to keep his colors changed!!!! I bet that's it!!!!!! Wait...( :faint: ) if he needs more energy to hold his R/B colors, that wouldn't explain why he flashed back when he was weakened!!!! Then it would just be easier to stay in B/G Dragon of legend form...
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| So in Opposites Attract and he flashes back to his racing form when his energy is being drained, does this mean he needs energy to hold his original form and not his weaker form? Why would he need energy to hold his original form and not his disguise form? Does this even make sense? |
That doesn't make sense!!
Why would he need energy to hold his nonoriginal form!
His disguise that probably takes more energy than his Dragon of legend form!!!
Dang!
This has become a really confusing topic........ :faint:
koering - December 22, 2006 01:09 AM (GMT)
hey it was your idea for this topic.lol
Salazaar - December 22, 2006 01:20 AM (GMT)
True!!
LOL :lol:
Still confusing... :faint:
koering - December 24, 2006 05:20 AM (GMT)
Liliwen - December 26, 2006 02:37 AM (GMT)
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That doesn't make sense!! Why would he need energy to hold his nonoriginal form! His disguise that probably takes more energy than his Dragon of legend form!!! |
True. New theory.
Beau's original form is the one he had before choosing a Dragon Booster. His next form, which takes energy to maintain, is his racing form. And then, the other form is his Dragon of Legend form (after he choose a Dragon Booster), which takes more energy than the other previous forms.
So, when his energy was being drained, he flashed back to his racing form, because it takes less energy. And perhaps after that, he would flash back to his original form from his racing form. That is, unless, it was erased after he choose a Dragon Booster... :plot:
Orrrr... the writers just needed to show Beau had a weak form and a strong form for all the liddle kids. And they ignored everything we've been talking about to make it easier for the previously stated liddle kids to understand.
koering - December 27, 2006 01:29 AM (GMT)
wow...... that makes a lot of sense. does anyone think that in the future artha could use an energy drain on moordryd?
Liliwen - December 27, 2006 01:44 AM (GMT)
If he learned how to do it, he might. I don't think he knows how to yet. But Moordryd is beginning to turn to the good side, so I don't really see him doing that to Moordryd in future episodes. He doesn't want to really hurt Moordryd (I don't think so anyway), and he wouldn't want to spoil Moordyd's secret. Then he wouldn't have anything to hold against Moordryd to stop him from telling the entire world who DB is. But I can see either him or Moordryd doing that to Drakkus... ^_^
Salazaar - January 1, 2007 05:24 AM (GMT)
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| Then he wouldn't have anything to hold against Moordryd to stop him from telling the entire world who DB is. |
Seriously! :D
And if everybody knew, that wouldn't be good!!! ;)
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| But I can see either him or Moordryd doing that to Drakkus... |
I can't wait for that moment! ^_^
Nemi the Nen - January 1, 2007 06:22 AM (GMT)
I think Beau's orginal form, black and gold, has the same power and strength as his racing form.
Dragon of Legend form has the star marking, and he can choose to have fins or not, or unfurl them for effect.
As to why he flashed to his red and blue form, perhaps because he changed his scales? He can freely change between black and gold and red and blue. And needs a booster for Legendary black and gold.
So his black and gold scales he turned to red and blue, that's their color now. Like he chroma shifted himself
Salazaar - January 1, 2007 06:37 AM (GMT)
Yeah but why?
Why would he flash back to Red and Blue if he was weakened?
Why does he never go back to his original Black and gold form?
He was majorly weakened so how could he have the energy to change his scales?
Why would they just randomly change themselves?
Still really confused, :faint:
Salazaar
Nemi the Nen - January 1, 2007 07:00 AM (GMT)
I think it would be cool if he turned back to his orginal black and gold form, alas I'm not an animator.
as to how does he still have enough energy to maintain his diffrent scale color, well how much energy does it take you to maintain a tan? Or a tattoo.
Essentially Beau can tell his scales to be tattooed or not, doing so take energy but maintaining it does not.
I would offer the hypothesis that the chromashifter (spray paint for dragon scales and draconium in general) works the same way.
That is to say that there are 13 possible colors for either a scale, or a portion of a scale can have.
Gold, Black, Blue, Green, Red, Gray, Orange, Purple, Light Blue, Light Green, White, Turquoise, and Brown.
Dragons now aren't very pure, they have many colors of draconium in them, most noticably their primary and secondary colors, though they probably have a bunch of tertiaries that don't effect them much--except for their colorartion. So a Dragon would have maybe half, or even more of this pallet.
Then the scales act like your screen, or like a color picture in the newspaper. Dots of color that blur together in your eye to form another color. Which is how say..Decepshun can have lavender markings. It's purple and white 'dots' next to each other. Or light blue, or something.
Chromashifter does it for the dragon--and probably can spit out some draconium to do the coloration incase the dragon doesn't have the correct 'pallet'
Now Beau can do this to himself, and he has a full pallet. So he does it by...You remember in the junglegyms they had these blocks that you could spin and play tic tac toe with? imagine that only with 13 sides. Energy is needed to spin the blocks, but after that they stay that way, 'set' in place.
So he was 'set' into red and blue form this way, taking no energy to maintain.
koering - January 1, 2007 07:53 AM (GMT)
wait Liliwen how is moordryd turning to the good side? ( just curious)
Liliwen - January 1, 2007 08:01 PM (GMT)
Well, in the wraith booster, you can see he's not totally heartless. And in Pride of the Hero, well, I think that's obvious. Beau letting him ride him, showing he can become a hero.
And in Cain's Mutiny, Moordryd sort of rebels against Armaggeddon, by throwing the amulet to the ground.
Then in Battle for the Ages, well, he helps the good guys defeat Armaggeddon. He knows Artha's secret and agrees to keep it a secret. He also tries to warn Artha about Armagedon trying to kill him and tells Armeggy he doesn't actually want to kill Artha. near the end, Moordryd leaves, Artha stares after him. Connor asked what was that all about, and Artha says, hope.
Then in Damaged Goods Moordryd takes a hit from a wraith for Artha, then congratulates him on getting in the academy.
I haven't seen the last episodes yet, that's just from the summaries. But it seems that he's already edging towards the right side. He's not really doing anything for Word anymore either, I don't think.
Salazaar - January 1, 2007 11:55 PM (GMT)
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And in Cain's Mutiny, Moordryd sort of rebels against Armaggeddon, by throwing the amulet to the ground. Then in Battle for the Ages, well, he helps the good guys defeat Armaggeddon. He knows Artha's secret and agrees to keep it a secret. He also tries to warn Artha about Armagedon trying to kill him and tells Armeggy he doesn't actually want to kill Artha. near the end, Moordryd leaves, Artha stares after him. Connor asked what was that all about, and Artha says, hope. Then in Damaged Goods Moordryd takes a hit from a wraith for Artha, then congratulates him on getting in the academy. |
Dang it!
I haven't seen any of this!! <_<
Argh, I need to see new episodes! :faint:
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| But it seems that he's already edging towards the right side. He's not really doing anything for Word anymore either, I don't think. |
From what I've seen, he's still working for Word, but I haven't seen too much....
Although from what I've heard he's not on his father's side much anymore.. :D
Salazaar
Liliwen - January 2, 2007 02:57 AM (GMT)
The above is from all the sumamries about the episodes posted on this forum. I haven't even seen the Defiant yet. :( <_<
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From what I've seen, he's still working for Word, but I haven't seen too much.... Although from what I've heard he's not on his father's side much anymore.. :D |
Well, after Damaged Goods after Moordryd yells at his father, saves Artha Penn, then congratulates him, I'm not sure he'll do anything else for Word. And he's going to the academy, which would probably take up most of his spare time. I wonder if the Dragon Eyes will continue to steal dragons for Word... :unsure:
Salazaar - January 2, 2007 03:39 AM (GMT)
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| I wonder if the Dragon Eyes will continue to steal dragons for Word... |
I don't see why they do it in the first place.
You think they could make a much better living if they'd just dragon race and fairly. Does Word pay them or something? He doesn't seem like a very good employer from what I've seen so I'm wondering why they helped him in the first place.....Although if they've worked for him for this long, and don't see what would make them quit helping him now........
hhhmmm... :unsure:
dorsul - January 3, 2007 10:54 PM (GMT)
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| I don't see why they do it in the first place. |
The dragon Eye crew and Moordryd steal dragons for Word cause he asked them to. Word wants to make an army of dragon so he can start a war. I don't think word his paying the dragon Eye's he is using them, and they are probably listen to him cause he is a rich/high man he makes gears and he is power full.
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| I wonder if the Dragon Eyes will continue to steal dragons for Word... |
Yah I think the dragon Eye's will continue to work for Word and steal dragons for him cause they will benifit from him, and Word will benifit from them. They are doing teamwork.
They are with him for protection.
Liliwen - January 4, 2007 01:35 AM (GMT)
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| QUOTE | | I don't see why they do it in the first place. |
The dragon Eye crew and Moordryd steal dragons for Word cause he asked them to. Word wants to make an army of dragon so he can start a war. I don't think word his paying the dragon Eye's he is using them, and they are probably listen to him cause he is a rich/high man he makes gears and he is power full.
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They probably only stole them for Word cause Moordryd told them too. But if Moordryd didn't want Word's plan to go any further, and if he is mad at Word, like he kinda is right now, would he really let the Dragon Eyes steal dragons for him? Moordryd is after all, the leader of the Dragon Eyes. Unless Moordryd doesn't care whether Word gets more dragons. Or if Word is very intimidating and persuasive that the Dragon Eyes do it anyway no matter what Moordryd says...
Salazaar - January 4, 2007 01:42 AM (GMT)
Dunno.
Maby Word doesn't really need dragons any more...
I mean does he ever talk about needing any more wraith dragons?
How many does he have anyway? :eep:
How many more does he need? :eep:
Do you think he'll ever have enough?
Moordryd does seem to be going to the good side, and I think the dragon eyes are easily persuaded so Maby Word could get them working for him even if Moordryd didn't approve. :plot: ..........
Liliwen - January 4, 2007 02:10 AM (GMT)
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Dunno. Maby Word doesn't really need dragons any more... I mean does he ever talk about needing any more wraith dragons? How many does he have anyway? :eep: How many more does he need? :eep: Do you think he'll ever have enough? |
Simple answer. No. ^_^ Word wants a huge army. I think he'll get as much as he can to increase his chances in any future battles.
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| Moordryd does seem to be going to the good side, and I think the dragon eyes are easily persuaded so Maby Word could get them working for him even if Moordryd didn't approve. :plot: |
Could happen, though I wonder what Moordryd will think of his crew then, or what he'd do or if he even cared.