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Title: Gauntlet Questions
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Liliwen - October 12, 2006 12:34 AM (GMT)
Here's some questions that I've thought of and am not sure of the answer. If Kitt, for some reason, got the black gauntlet and put it on whilst she was on Wyldfyr, would it work and transform her into the SB? Or does it only work if the dragon is black boned? What if she wasn't on Wyldfyr?
Or what if Moordryd, while he was wearing the black gauntlet, put on the blue one at the same time. Would the blue one work and transform him into the lightning/shadow booster?

The Furox - October 12, 2006 02:15 AM (GMT)
The gauntlets don't appear to work for just anyone. Lance tried to use Artha's gauntlet in "Chromatic Dragon" and nothing happened. This tends to say that Kitt probably couldn't use the black gauntlet, though exactly what the rules are is very unclear. Moordryd might well be able to use Artha's gauntlet since Beau chose him too in "Pride of the Hero", but we don't know for sure.

We do know the gauntlets work independently of the dragon. Artha was able to transform into DB in "Three Times a Hero" while Beau remained red and blue for the race with Lance.

As for whether someone can "double up" on gauntlets, I don't know. I think it goes back to the first point that not everyone can use a particular gauntlet.

Armeggadon - October 12, 2006 02:22 AM (GMT)
The gauntlet has a specific slot for the specific amulet.

Airshadow - October 12, 2006 02:59 AM (GMT)
And remeber that Armageddom told Moodryd that he only could use the black amulet

turkmen - October 12, 2006 03:22 PM (GMT)
You have to be 'the chosen one', that's the whole point of super-kids-with-super-abilities shows. Lance tried once to use the gauntlet and it didn't work. It always works that way, just look at some anime shows or other Power Ranger crap.

The Furox - October 12, 2006 05:20 PM (GMT)
The open question though is: in what way was Moordryd chosen to use the black gauntlet? He pretty much just retrieved it from the tower. Would anyone who managed to retrieve it automatically be chosen? Or was it supposed to be Moordryd's destiny or something like that? It's not clear to me if there was an actually choosing in Moordryd's case or not.

Maybe it's a case of the gauntlets only working for a person if they're "ready" to use them (for some definition of "ready"). "Ready" could just mean they have the proper affinity for that color of draconium. Artha has an affinity for gold of course, and Lance's is blue. So maybe that's why Lance couldn't use Artha's gauntlet. And maybe a person's affinity increases if they have a suitably pure dragon. So Artha's gold affinity went up when he was chosen by Beau and Moordryd's black affinity went up when Decepshun was changed into a pure black dragon in "Darkness Falls".

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens if and when someone else gets a gauntlet.

PyroWarriorZ - October 12, 2006 06:12 PM (GMT)
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Say no more, it just so happens Parm got his gauntlet. See my Episode Summary to see what is going on, you must see.

It was given to him in a priest, he had to actually prove himself ready through a test to get it. So the theory that it only works when your ready does seem to fit, though if it can be used by another is still uncertain. But it appears as those his green gauntlet was meant just for him.

Liliwen - October 13, 2006 09:33 PM (GMT)
So apparently it's destiny picking them and the gauntlet works only for them? I can live with that I suppose.

turkmen - October 14, 2006 08:05 AM (GMT)
I'm sure it's all about fate, being ready is just the part of the road the Boosters need to follow in order to fulfill their destiny. Their draconium bone colour also isn't accidenltaly the way it is. But I also believe that's not the major trigger to transform, I don't think that for example Cain clould tranform using Moordryds gauntlet.
The thing about dragons makes me wonder though. We'll probably never know if it's so important since Kitt, Parm and Lance all have pure dragons and this matter won't even be brought up.

Armeggadon - October 14, 2006 06:20 PM (GMT)
The thing with the gauntlets so far has been decided by somebody else, Artha Connor,Moordryd Armegaddon, Parm SOme priest.

Liliwen - October 14, 2006 08:51 PM (GMT)
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The thing about dragons makes me wonder though. We'll probably never know if it's so important since Kitt, Parm and Lance all have pure dragons and this matter won't even be brought up.

They don't have pures yet, do they? I'm pretty sure all Wyldfyr is is a red magma class dragon or something.

So, when they power up, do their dragons change too? I'm guessing not, since we all know Beau can change whenever he wants, and Decepshun can as well, since she's a pure with a drac bonemark. So I think it only affects the human, and the dragon simply changes when they mag up.
Now, since Parm found the gauntlet and when he finds the amulet Cyrano will have to be a pure before then in order to change when Parm becomes da PB to hide his identity. And if Cyrano just gets a bonemark, won't it just control him unless he absorbs it? Which he will have to be a pure in order to do?

The Furox - October 15, 2006 07:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Liliwen @ Oct 14 2006, 01:51 PM)
And if Cyrano just gets a bonemark, won't it just control him unless he absorbs it? Which he will have to be a pure in order to do?

Well, that's an interesting question. All the bonemarks we've seen so far contain the spirits of nasty dragons, and you wouldn't think any of the Penn racing crew would want to put one of those on their dragon. On the other hand, the mythology of the first D-H war says that the DB suit was forged by red and green dragons who were sympathetic to the original Beau's cause. If the bonemarks of those particular dragons came off and are still around, then maybe putting a bonemark from an ancient good dragon on their dragons wouldn't be a bad thing.

Though to be honest, I think the fact that this possibility exists is a plot hole as opposed to something we're going to see in the show. Because of that, I'm going to guess that none of the other Penn racing dragons are going to be bonemarks. I'm not sure whether they need to be pure in order for the matching gauntlets to work. If so, some other plot device may be used to purify them (perhaps the gauntlets themselves).


turkmen - October 15, 2006 07:51 AM (GMT)
There's something I don't understand. How come Cyrano isn't pure? He's a normal Bull-class dragon. The problem with Beau and Decepshun was that Gold-class and Black-class dragons were extinct, right? Other classes are just normal breeds. Tell me if I'm missing something.
I admit it would look cool if Cyrano transformed like the others but how? The bonemark thing can be tricky. Look what happend with Furox and Samurox.
Sadly we might never know :<

PyroWarriorZ - October 15, 2006 08:36 AM (GMT)
Black class was never extinct? I don't know where you heard that from, yes Gold was so Beau was bred gold and pure.

But you see all the Dragons of today aren't very pure, yes they are red, green and black. But they are not pure like the old Dragons from the original human war are due to all the breeding and stuff unlike Beau. Decepshun was made more pure in that episode where he had pure black draconium put into his system.


So yes Cyrano is green, but he is not pure green like the olden day dragons. So we are all just wondering is going to somehow become more pure or does he even need to?

SilverDragon - October 15, 2006 11:02 AM (GMT)
What about the blue dragons? We know Lance will find the blue gauntlet, but so far there's been no evidence to suggest that there may have been 'good' blue dragons.

They should really have set the show in the War. It would have been very fun.

Armeggadon - October 15, 2006 03:57 PM (GMT)
SO, apart from SB and DB, no one can use magclaw cause Mortis says the energy flowing through a rider must be pure.

Liliwen - October 15, 2006 08:15 PM (GMT)
Is magclaw fighting what Moordryd and Artha use on the tracks? Cause I think Parm said after Moordryd did a mag-blast, "Only year one academy racers can even begin to learn that!" So elite racers can mag-blast, but is it magclaw style fighting which they do? If so, their dragons must have high pure energy levels in order to do it.

PyroWarriorZ - October 16, 2006 09:02 AM (GMT)
Not exactly, Drakkus can use it coz some how Abandonn has a pure form, who knows how. Maybe he just made him that way coz Word did invent the machine that made Decepshun pure.

Mortis probably breeded a more pure Dragon. So that why he can do it


Armeggaddon can do it without a Dragon, don't ask how. He is Armeggaddon.


Also a side character named Malto could do it with his light green Dragon. I have no idea how, but it is a mystery. It is stated in the academy you learn mag-claw. So therefore many plp in academy must know it, so how do they do it without pure Dragons? Maybe they are just pure enough or I don't know....



Sarah Frost - October 16, 2006 10:58 AM (GMT)
Chute got a new dragon--perhaps Turbulance was purer than Twister and bought specifically for Academy purposes. And Decepshun was purified at some point, though I haven't seen the episode in question. So it's possible to make existing dragons purer, and it might well be that Academy dragons are superior to others.

Or else it's just a technique of using mag-energy--all dragons (and humans?) possess it, and it might just be a particularly arcane way for a human to channel it, easier with a pure dragon but not impossible with a Mischling (and yes, that's an offensive term, but if the show's entitled to exalt purity then I'm entitled to use the metaphor).

power of dragon - October 16, 2006 04:53 PM (GMT)
When Beau choose Moordryd, I believe parm said something about character, and stuff about personality traits, So I think it partly has what your personality is, partly has if you can conduct/chanel mag energy, and partly what your draconium is.

Possibly though the personality portion only counts on the dragon of legend, or it depends on what you could/will become. (for example moordryd is a bad guy, but he was chosen by beau, so he just grew up around the wrong people, and was swayed to the bad side.)

(maybe it's the draconium of your dragon, I rememeber on furox's site that the dragon's draconium started to reflect in the human.)

Mortis said "the more pure the draconium, the more easily it passes through the human body" so its probably the same with dragons, the more pure the dragon the easier it would be to conduct mag energy. I think the less pure of draconium, the harder it would be to conduct/chanel mag energy.
So the ones that are not pure, could mag chanel, if trained, but it would be more difficult than the pure draconium.

Also I'm going to science when I say this, so I might not make sense, but I'll try.

I think Mag energy is sort of like electricity, in this way:
1.) with electricity, the more paths electricity can travel, the more easily it flows.
and Mag energy flows more easily with both a dragon and a human.

2.) some substances cnduct electricity better than others.
Thus, some humans conduct mag energy better than others.

3.) some substances conduct more easier than others. I think some humans, can conduct mag energy better than others.

4.) some molecular substances (non-metal elements combined in a compound) conduct some electricity. Some humans can conduct mag energy without dragons ( the priests in the eye of the dragon, moordryd in no paynn, no gain, and drakkus in return of drakkus.)[U][/U]

PyroWarriorZ - October 16, 2006 07:02 PM (GMT)
I agree, maybe it is possible with less pure Dragons. Just more training....

Liliwen - October 16, 2006 10:57 PM (GMT)
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Mortis said "the more pure the draconium, the more easily it passes through the human body" so its probably the same with dragons, the more pure the dragon the easier it would be to conduct mag energy. I think the less pure of draconium, the harder it would be to conduct/chanel mag energy.
So the ones that are not pure, could mag chanel, if trained, but it would be more difficult than the pure draconium.

Well that makes sense to me. But are there pure blue, green or red dragons around racing in the elite races? I think pure black are extinct, since Armaggeddon said Decepshun was the purest in this time. But do a pure form of other dragons still exist, or all they alle extinct?




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