I have realized that Artha has a different last name form lance. Lance and Connar both have red hair and the last name are the same so I think Lance is the son of Connar but what about Artha?The episode the Eye of the dragon Artha meets many dargon priests, they are like punch of Mortist's. Do you think one of them is Artha's father.

Yeah, I noticed that Artha's hair is black will Connor's and Lance's hair are red. It could be that Artha resembled more like his mother or maybe he was an orphan adopted by Connor.

...No, Artha has a different middle name from Lance, which people generally do. I don't get the impression that Dragon City generally follows the tradition of using the mother's surname as the second name, unless Connor's first wife was related to his priestly mentor (and said mentor went by his surname) and Lance's mother's surname was Patrik, which seems unlikely. (Raada also sounds more like a first name.)

It's possible Artha and Lance are only half-brothers or not related at all, but it's not impossible they're just siblings; red hair's recessive, after all (ie. mother would've been dark-haired but had one fairer-haired parent). There also isn't much scope for a plotline like that that I can see: making him the son of another Dragon Priest only complicates things unnecessarily, and there's no official upper class that it would benefit him to be related to. Making him Word's son is also a bit complicated and would probably involve infidelity, which isn't really the sort of thing one expects on a kids' show. Same with making him the original Dragon Booster's son from frozen sperm: a little complicated.

I second what Sarah said, though I must point out that Artha does look a great deal like his father. They have the same face/facial features.

They both have that feeling of moral resposibility.

Although I would love for Word to be revealed as Artha's father, (drama and suspense! ^_^ ) What Sarah says is true and I'll just have to live with it. :eep:

Or just Screenwriters doesnt care about Genectic's laws and they wished draw Artha in that way.

I would think that such a storyline would give the series a 'Star Warsish' twist and an unoriginal feel. ( although, you are right, it does promise lots of suspense :lol: )

If Word is Artha's dad, where would Moordryd fit in.........?

I would like to see this happen in the near future........

Although Moordryd is the Evil One in this series, he had nevertheless done a few good deeds......( such as saving the Dragon Booster's life, thwarting his dad's scheme......you think of more :D )

So, finally, Moordryd repents his ways and spends the rest of his days working towards a peaceful world for humans and dragons to coexsist.

However, shortly after his repentence, his wicked past catches up with him and he was branded a traitor and murdered in cold blood by his own crew.

He was accorded a stately funeral fit for a hero, despite his sins, on the orders of the dragon priests in order to commemorate his redemption.

Lastly, the dragon priest reveals to Artha and his crew privately that Moordryd, yes, Moordryd will be reborn as the next dragon booster and will rise to the challange when a foe far greater than anything they have ever witnessed emerges to break the dragon/human world in the next lifetime.

Now, what do you think of this as a finale ( and new begining) to the Dragon Booster Saga?

...And you think that isn't Star Wars ish? (Cf. RotJ's ending re Darth Vader, and Anakin in the EU.)

I wouldn't. It's rather melodramatic, and I'm pretty sure his crew actually likes him.

And redemption? What he's done so far in the series is hardly unforgiveable, but in general a short repentance after a long career of evildoing doesn't make the likes of Ed Gein or Adolph Hitler saints, y'know.

Artha's hair color intrigues just about everyone who watches more than a few episodes. :) And with half the cast hiding their identities one way or the other, it's hardly surprising that people start looking for clues about other characters. :D

But I think it's like Sarah and Airshadow said: there's no firm reason why Artha couldn't be Connor's natural son and it's probably just a case of the character designer thought he'd look better with black hair (to contrast Moordryd's white hair, for instance). If the writers were going to pursue some other plot line, then they should have given us some more clues by now. After all, we're into the third season now. If Artha's true parents were going to be important to the story, some clues should've started turning up in season 1.

Maybe Artha just dyes his hair. Plenty of people have dyed their hair black in my school, and as their world generally seems to reflect ours, they probably do it too (Explains Kitt). He'd have been kinda cool with red hair. ;)

You should toatlly write a fic about that! :D

You don't think Artha's dad is word do you?
In the dragon-city.org web site. It said something about the jacket that Artha wear's it says Artha's name on the back but its mirror reflection, and Artha's middle name was the name of the man who instructed Connar. So could one of the priest's that Artha met in the Eye of the dragon be his father?

This is what I think. As of right now. We dont know anything about the Mother of Artha and Lance. For all we know. She could have had black hair and, past her traits onto him. maybe Artha could have put black hair dy. Not to menchin that white streak in his hair. That could just be a birthmark.

I think birthmarks only apply to skin.

*checks*

Yep, only skin.

And just so you know, it's spelt Conner. Just so you know. ;)

I don't think it's impossible for people to be born with a lock of white hair, though the hair colour wouldn't be called a birthmark.

And while the official site seems to have been replaced with a merchandise advertising page, it's Connor according to my recollection, Wikipedia and the Furox' site. (And according to conventional spelling, though that's an argument against it in this context.)

Birth marks in hair is possible. There was a kid I new in middle school. And, in the front center part of his hair. Was white. The rest was a differant color. And, he told me that its birth mark. And, it is actually located on his scalp but, because of that. It turnd that part of his hair white.

The white streak in Artha's hair is a tough call. It could either be a real streak of white hair or with all the artistic license in animation, it could be meant as a reflection of the light to add a highlight to his head and some dimensionality, and it's just the miracle of the animated realm that the highlight always stays in the same place, even when Artha is in shadows. :)

It's like all the anime characters with really spiky hair that somehow stays perfectly in place no matter how hard the wind blows. Seriously, are these characters putting super glue in their hair gel? :D

One thing I am pretty certain about is that we'll never see Artha's mother nor learn anything about her. We're into season 3 now, and if the writers were planning to reveal something about her I'm sure they would have dropped some kind of hint by now.

I don't think so since none of them recognized him. It's a bit odd that Mortis hadn't told them that Artha was the one that got Chosen, but I think it would be even odder if one of them was the father and didn't know. I mean sure it's possible, but it gets to be too far out for the story line of a kid's show. :)

Perhaps, Connor forgot to tell thema bout

Gee, I don't know. :) That seems like a rather big piece of news to forget about. :D Perhaps we can assume that the identity of the Dragon Booster wasn't important to them and they therefore didn't want to risk the communication being intercepted which would reveal it's Artha. Or maybe they knew and just made Artha transform to make sure he wasn't being impersonated.

My guess is. Maybe somewhere down the line if we can get another season. We may find something out about Connor's wife. I mean, we found out something about Word Paynn's. Come to think of. For all we know. They probably werent married from the get go and, were just a couple, I persoanlly do hope we learn something about the mothers and, the rest of the charecters families because....I just hate it when writters do that. Because, to me when I see a family like the Penn's and, all we see is Just the older brother (Artha), the younger brother (Lance), and just a father (Connor). There has to have been a mother in this family at 1 point. Or maybe they were adopted. But, I would just like to know more of the back round of the charecters and, their families.

I have seen the episode Eye of the Dragon and when Artha meets the many drgon priests he learns one of the priests's name,
Then Artha goes and fight the shadow booter he says to beau " What Tennis said work in partners fight side by side"

- Artha's middle name is Tennis so maybe the leader of those priests was Artha's dad.
-Also i was wondering why didn't Connar stay with the priests that trained him why was he in the dragon temple by himself,is it because
-that was where he grew up or
-he had son unlike the other once or
-is it because they didn't breed back a dragon???

It's stated that Connor was an orphan--which doesn't mean one of the priests didn't have a bastard and wanted to hide it, though the priests definitely know that Contis has kids and accept him nonetheless. It's more likely Tannis was just his special mentor. (Insert catamite joke here, because picking out just two pretty little boys and dragging them underground to a secret society is always going to look bad.)

Connor's probably in the outside world because that way he's of most benefit to the priests, breeding the Dragon Of Legend (©) and keeping an eye on racing events. We also don't know how many other priests also have day jobs--it might well be the case for all of them that they only dress up occasionally. (Though I do admit the impression is that most of them stay underground, meditating or plotting or keeping their dwellings up to scratch.)

Perhaps you were thinking of Lance's line in 'The Wraith Booster', when he told Moordryd that he has really drac hair and Moordryd said that it takes up alot of gel?

Yupe, I think the priests do not leave their underground retreat and its most probable that they don't have a day job. This begs the question of where are they getting the funds for their welfare and for the upkeep pf their abode. I wouldn't like to think that they live off donations ( it cheapens their reputations). Perhaps the priests have a sponser?

I wouldn't find it unbelievable that they grow or manufacture a lot of their supplies themselves--for example, they've obviously got knowledge of the Ancient Ways (©) which would enable them to create powerful technology. They could probably grow mushrooms or something, or have hydroponic farms similar to those elsewhere in the city, and mine their own draconium. And those of them with day jobs would be able to help with the finances, of course.

It's a pity we seem unlikely to learn anything about the mothers; while there's a limit to how proactive sufferers of Dead Parent Syndrome can be, it's another example of the female characters getting completely ignored. (Say it's an Oppressive Patriarchy and have done with it already, writers! That way we can all pretend you think that all sexism is wrong!)

i want to know what happened to artha's mom i mean like what happened to her and what happened to moorryd's mom she was entioned once but that was it

We are still trying to figure that out for ourselfs. Cuz, I would like to know and, it certainly seems you do to.

According to the director commentary on one of the Disney DVDs I have (I forget which one though), the reason there's frequently an absent parent in Disney movies is that they don't feel they have time to develop another character in the limited time they have for a movie. Disney strongly feels they have to limit their feature animated movies to around 70 minutes or so because they believe going much longer exceeds the attention span of the young kids in the audience. So rightly or wrongly, they've developed the habit of intentionally omitting one parent from the story in order to streamline things unless both are needed for some strong reason.

How much of this thinking was applied to Dragon Booster I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't want to spend time on the plot exposition for why Artha's mother is absent from the scene. Having her absent certainly simplifies the situation for them since they clearly wanted Artha to be on his own for the first two seasons. Connor hides himself as Mortis and they then didn't have to come up with a reason for his mother to be suddenly gone at the same time. The fact that it simplifies the story probably weighed heavily on this decision. It's valid of course to say that this is taking the easy way out, but I have a feeling that this was at least part of their decision.

And as I pointed out a long time back, it's interesting to note the contrast between Dragon Booster, a show aimed at boys 6-11, and WITCH, a show aimed at girls 6-11. Dragon Booster has fathers but no mothers. WITCH has mothers but no fathers. (Well, to be honest I'm not completely sure of the total lack of fathers in WITCH as I've only seen a few episodes. I only tuned in when I heard the creator of Gargoyles was writing some of the episodes, but I find the show nearly unwatchable. I tell you, I am really far removed from the target audience of that show. :bblast: To be fair, I've met other guys at fan conventions that like that show, but I'm not one of them. :gblast: ) In any event, it's interesting to see how the people who put these shows together assume the kids in the segment they're targeting will react.

And to be clear, I'm not defending them or asserting that these are valid reasons for doing things. I'm only relaying what I've learned from commentary tracks and from meeting animation writers and directors at fan conventions.

Back to the Dragon Booster story:

Like I said above, I don't think there will ever be any mention of Artha's mother period. Just my guess by extrapolating from where the story is now.

On the other hand, I tend to think Zulay will come up again at some point, though I fear it may not be planned to occur until season 4 or 5 which we may never see. I think the fact that we've gone 34 episodes with only the briefest mention of her means that she doesn't have a significant role to play. I think she's gone for good, but she may have left some message or important artifact behind for Moordryd to discover at some pivotal point in the story. Just a hunch based on the types of things I've seen in other stories.

Just my guesses. I could be wrong of course. :)

1 big reason why I want to know something about Artha and Lance's mom is. I have been reading the Dragon Booster books. And, 1 thing that have done so far in all 5 books is. The fire and, the dissapearance of Connor. Not to menchin how Artha feels about being the Dragon Booster and, whatching over his brother. That you would think that he woul also have a mother. As for Disney said in that commentary (Where did you hear that from anyway???). I think they are wrong. Because, if you look at some of these older cartoon shows (Especially ones on Nickelodeon) like Rocket Power, Rugrats, Doug etc. They all mentioned something both the mom and the dad. And, I just think that if they can do it. Then how come Disney cant???

There's always the question in the medium of Keeping Numbers Down, as the Furox remarked. You see what happened with the four main characters, even; they had Artha as the Hero and Parm as the Brains and Kitt as the Token Female and Lance as the Younger Brother, and even though multi-child families are realistic putting Lance in there on top of Kitt meant that the two of them are fairly useless characters in a lot of episodes. (Of course, overpowering Artha also contributed to this a good deal.) Putting Connor's partner in would also likely add an irrelevant character to the mix--he's the only mentor Artha really needs, and she'd probably have to just sit at home baking or something. (Of course, they could have cut Connor and have Ygraine Penn alias the priestess Viviane train her son, but either way only one parent with Connor's abilities is necessary. And zomg, you can't have a woman abandoning her children! Unnatural monstrosity!!!one!) Zulay, on the other hand, seems to have some minor plot role yet to fulfil, but it wouldn't fit the way the story's structure for her to return and overtake Artha as Fighter of Evil, or Mortis as Source of Ancient Lore, though as far as I'm concerned she can feel perfectly free to take over Word's role and attempt some consistent and intelligent villainy for a change.

We don't have time for much exposition in a television show--as we see quite plainly in several DB eps, it's boring to have Word or Connor just talking with nothing interesting going on--and so generally backstories are gradually revealed rather than dumped on us all at once, and extra characters who require explanation are kept to a minimum. In novels, of course, there's a lot more room for that sort of thing.

My main problem with no details on Zulay/Unknown Woman is the fact that it's the mothers ignored this way, as though the Saintly Dead Mother wasn't already a cliche or DB otherwise did a vaguely decent job of writing female characters. It's fairly inevitable that the parents and other adult authority figures are going to be absent for a kids-adventure-story, and the only question then is just how plausible it is. That Zulay and Connor's partner either got a divorce or died is plausible for the world, and DB tries to make it seem that kids of sixteen have more responsibilities there than here, though is self-contradictory on that point on several occasions.

Artha's dad! At least they cover that up with mortis/Connar :) , and maybe When we find out Artha's mom then we will know the father of Artha. The think i mostly like about dragonbooster is it gets interesting after each episode Armeggadon is a mystery Artha's dad is a mystery Artha and Moordryd's mom is mystery it gets us in and in the story more if you have started from the beginning like me then you know what am talking about. When The X was commercializing dragonbooster i used to see it i was really exited about it, now its ongoing story full of mysteries.
Can't wait for more

Wait a minute. You mean, that you guys dont believe that Connor isnt Artha's real Dad???

I can't speak for anyone but myself of course, but I'm confident Connor is Artha's real dad for the reasons in my previous posting.

Another interesting side question since Zulay has been brought up here: which side of the conflict is she on? Is her philosophy the same as Word's or does/did she oppose Word? There's no information offered in the show at all, so all we can do is guess. If she opposed him, that might be an explanation for why she isn't around anymore. Maybe Word had her "eliminated" or exiled where she couldn't interfere with his plans, for example. Or maybe she was with Word all the way and died carrying out some mission to further their joint plans for world domination. We know she went into the Shadow Track for some reason, so maybe she was doing other dangerous things. I hope we find out some day.

I had the opinion that she's death, if not why Word looked sad when Moordrydn mentioned her in Faster than fear. Plus I dont thi9nk that Word eliminate her, if he did why he was sad

I dont think that she is dead. My theory is she went missing. And, it is possible they Sentrus is Zuley. They look ALOT a like. And, that has to be more then just cooincidental. And, as for Connor. I do believe he is Artha's biological Dad.

The reason would be because Word is ruthless and he won't let anyone stand in his way. Ruthless people can also justify doing contradictory things. He may have loved her, but if she was somehow interfering with his plans, then that may have taken priority in his mind.

But I was just throwing ideas out since we have no canon information to go on. I'm certain that as far as the show is concerned, Word didn't directly cause her death since that's way too dark for a kids show.

I just want every sinlge person who works on Dragon Booster. To come to this sight and, look around at these theories. And, justh ear what they have to say.

i think it would be really cool of they made the mom soon in one of the episodes. does anyone think that mabey both of the moms dissapeared a few years ago in the story ( just a guess ) :unsure:

Koering, please read the rules and stop double posting.

Not to be mean, Ibbie, but I'm frankly wondering how you passed basic English.