Title: Zulay? Sentrus?
Description: Post your theories about them.
DemonicFury - September 11, 2006 05:27 AM (GMT)
Post your theories about Zulay and/or Sentrus. I think Zulay will come back and stop Word from starting the dragon/human war, with help from the Dragon Boosters. (Yes Boosters, I think Parm, Lance, and Kitt will get armor. I know the Zulay thing is cheesy but it might happen.) I also think that Sentrus is either Zulay or Word's sister. I just don't think they like each other. (Sentrus and Zulay and/or Word.) :eye:
The Furox - September 11, 2006 08:48 AM (GMT)
I don't think Sentrus is Zulay since Word didn't seem to have any reaction to her in "Paynn Rising." Unless for some reason her face and voice are unrecognizable to him now. Though her hair of course, is a lot like the Paynn family hair. I don't know if that's supposed to mean anything to us or not. It also sort of looked like she had clawed fingers like Word, but it was difficult to get a good look in this one episode.
Other than her hair, I didn't get the idea there was any hints of any family relationships. Though I do get the sense that Sentrus has some sort of hidden agenda.
Penny Dreadful - September 11, 2006 03:01 PM (GMT)
I genuinely think that Sentrus is Zulay. I just don't see what the point of having such a close character design is otherwise. I took some screenshots and blew them up/sharpened them to show Word's reaction. I'll upload them somewhere and link if anyone wants. I don't think it's an expression completely devoid of any recognition. If my ex was in a room I certainly wouldn't say anything and I'd probably avert my eyes as well. The lack of a shock and awe response doesn't really rule anything out for me.
The Furox - September 11, 2006 06:08 PM (GMT)
Word and Sentrus certainly look like a matched pair, don't they. :) The thing that dissuades me though is that both Word and Moordryd both express an awful lot of regret over whatever happened with Zulay in "Faster than Fear." Word says he misses her with more sadness than we've ever seen him express. Too much sadness for him to just stand there. If Zulay just changed her name and went off to become a talent scout and/or admissions officer for the Racing Academy, then why wouldn't Word just call her up if he misses her so much? And if Word didn't know all this until right now, then I would've expected to see more surprise or a follow-up scene with Word and Moordryd alone where they wonder why she's back all of sudden.
Other than the hair, there doesn't seem to be anything else connecting them and that's what leads me away from saying Sentrus is Zulay. I would find it easier to believe that Word and Sentrus are brother and sister where neither one knows it. Word is an orphan and perhaps was separated from his sister at birth or something (happened in Star Wars :D). Having them be brother and sister explains the hair being the same a lot better than if they were just husband and wife where they'd be no genetic reason for the hair to be the same.
Sentrus is presented to us in the story in such a way that it strikes me that she has a hidden agenda of some kind. It's possible that the character designer is using long white hair as symbolic of characters like that.
dorsul - September 11, 2006 09:42 PM (GMT)
I think Sentrus is Zulay and the war saparated word and her
Cepheus - September 11, 2006 10:30 PM (GMT)
Word's fifty or so, but the war happened three thousand years ago. Even though we don't know how old Sentrus is, she couldn't have been there for the war and still be alive.
Penny Dreadful - September 11, 2006 11:09 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (The Furox @ Sep 12 2006, 04:08 AM) |
| Word and Sentrus certainly look like a matched pair, don't they. :) The thing that dissuades me though is that both Word and Moordryd both express an awful lot of regret over whatever happened with Zulay in "Faster than Fear." Word says he misses her with more sadness than we've ever seen him express. Too much sadness for him to just stand there. If Zulay just changed her name and went off to become a talent scout and/or admissions officer for the Racing Academy, then why wouldn't Word just call her up if he misses her so much? |
Word strikes me as a quite a proud guy. I don't think he would ever "call anyone up". Given the conversation in "Faster Than Fear", I got the impression that Moordryd didn't remember his mother. I did assume she was dead, but after seeing Sentrus...well...the hair, the tall/slender build, and the skin tone. I know I'm not going on much more than appearances here, but my first thought when I saw her was "Zulay!" and I just can't shake it. I wouldn't be shocked if I was wrong, I just haven't seen any huge, definitive proof against it yet. Hopefully there'll be some sort of conclusion to the Zulay mystery before the series ends.
The Furox - September 11, 2006 11:10 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cepheus @ Sep 11 2006, 03:30 PM) |
| Word's fifty or so, but the war happened three thousand years ago. Even though we don't know how old Sentrus is, she couldn't have been there for the war and still be alive. |
I think dorsul was referring to the war Word wants to start in the present as opposed to the first dragon-human war.
| QUOTE (Penny Dreadful @ Sep 11 2006, 04:09 PM) |
| Given the conversation in "Faster Than Fear", I got the impression that Moordryd didn't remember his mother. |
That's the impression I got as well. I put Zulay in the "missing, presumed dead" category, especially because of the way the words caught in Moordryd's throat when he asked Word about her. If Zulay had simply dumped Word and started a career as the admissions officer for the Racing Academy, then why would Moordryd be so choked up about his missing mother? Even if Word is too prideful to talk to her, what would be stopping Moordryd? For me, too many things aren't connecting right for Sentrus to be Zulay.
Now, if Sentrus had come on the scene wearing a mask, then I might start thinking she was Zulay. After all, Dragon Booster is less than subtle about masked identities. :D :D
Sarah Frost - September 11, 2006 11:48 PM (GMT)
Zulay has been mentioned by name and given a slight backstory, so I presume she'll make an appearance in some capacity. I just doubt it'll be as Sentrus--even if Word's behaviour in that scene can be interpreted as giving slight signs, DB's just not that subtle. Maybe her colouring's merely a shorthand for 'upper class' (by our world's standards rather than more natural DB-world-logic, at any rate), or maybe she is related to Word. Or maybe she's the other sufferer of Dead Mother Syndrome--where did Artha get those white streaks in his hair? (:P) I prefer the 'Word's sister' idea, though I'm not sure I'd put money on it.
As to Zulay, it sounds like Word thinks she's dead. Maybe she left some secrets behind for Moordryd to find, or maybe she'll turn up in the Armeggaddon subplot--she did make it through the Shadow Track, after all. Or maybe she's been hiding out as a Dragon Priest/ess.
Liliwen - September 12, 2006 12:48 AM (GMT)
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| I don't think Sentrus is Zulay since Word didn't seem to have any reaction to her in "Paynn Rising." |
It's been a long time since I saw that eppie, but maybe he didn't recognize her. Was she wearing a hood or something? Or maybe her appearance just changed so much that Word didn't realize it ws her. Since Moordryd express so much grief in "Faster than Fear" about his mother, I'm assuming she left when he was a baby. Some people can change a lot in sixteen years.
Or Word knew it was her, and like Peny Dreadful said, Word is a proud guy. Maybe he misses her, but doesn't want to be the first to call or somehting.
Sarah Frost - September 12, 2006 05:42 AM (GMT)
The story doesn't seem to hang together very well. Zulay must have been a pretty good racer to make it through the Shadow Track, it seems, and she was the significant other of one of the richest men in the city; she'd have been fairly well-known. So why would she change her name to become Sentrus, another public figure--and not trouble to disguise her face? It doesn't make sense if she wanted to hide from Word or justice or something else, and it doesn't make sense that nobody's recognized her and told her son. And her appearance is the reason why she's believed to be Zulay, so it can't have changed that much.
Burnout Beau - September 12, 2006 06:39 AM (GMT)
I won't be suprise if, really, Zulay = Sentrius. That's my opinion.
Skylii - September 13, 2006 03:17 AM (GMT)
I'm gonna go with the whole "Sentrus = Zulay's sister", because it makes more sense aside all the physical appearances and whatnot. Which is sad, too; a guy like Word should know about his dead wife's secret sisters.
Sarah Frost - September 13, 2006 11:44 AM (GMT)
And why secret, if she trusted him enough to want to have his child?
You seem to bring up an indirect point in the alternative theory of Zulay's sister rather than Word's: it seems likely that Zulay had similar features to Word--Moordryd's features are recessive traits, after all.
Sentrus seems to favour Artha a little more than Moordryd, if her words in 'No Paynn, no gain' are anything to go by. She doesn't seem interested in possible family favouritism--and nor has Phistus or someone else bothered to taunt Moordryd about his mother/aunt/long-lost cousin judging the tournament where he's a top contender. (Yes, that's only onscreen, Skylii, I know offscreen Spynn's probably the last descendant of original!DB and Reepyr's having an illicit affair with Faiar and Kitt's winning all kinds of prestigious races by herself. Which means that, according to the writers thus far, nobody knows of any blood relation--and judging by the similarity in appearances, it's the sort of thing someone would be likely to know if it exists.)
Penny Dreadful - September 13, 2006 02:45 PM (GMT)
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| Sentrus seems to favour Artha a little more than Moordryd, if her words in 'No Paynn, no gain' are anything to go by. She doesn't seem interested in possible family favouritism |
There was a bit of favouritism on Moordryd's part in "Paynn Rising", though.
Skylii - September 15, 2006 03:32 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sarah Frost @ Sep 13 2006, 09:44 PM) |
| And why secret, if she trusted him enough to want to have his child? |
That was meant to be a sarcastic comment, since Word knows pretty much everything about everyone (excluding the fact that he has no clue whatsoever about the obvious DB is Artha thing).
But hey, for all we know, Word could've raped her, knocked her up, and then both of them suddenly ended up loving each other before Zulay went missing. The end.
It actually seems more plausible if Sentrus is Word's Long Lost Sister than Zulay's sister. For one obvious gaping choice, they both act the same. Sentrus is practically Female!Word. (THE CLAWS. NEED I POINT OUT SHE WEARS CLAWS?!)
The Furox - September 15, 2006 05:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Penny Dreadful @ Sep 13 2006, 07:45 AM) |
| QUOTE | | Sentrus ... doesn't seem interested in possible family favouritism |
There was a bit of favouritism on Moordryd's part in "Paynn Rising", though.
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I interpreted that a bit differently. It seemed to me she was impressed with Moordryd for using mag energy the way he did, and not because of who he was.
| QUOTE (Skylii @ Sep 14 2006, 08:32 PM) |
| But hey, for all we know, Word could've raped her, knocked her up, and then both of them suddenly ended up loving each other before Zulay went missing. The end. |
Umm, this is a kid's show we're talking about. I think the plot is unlikely to go in that direction. :P
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| THE CLAWS. NEED I POINT OUT SHE WEARS CLAWS?! |
I noticed that, too. I'm not sure what to make of it yet. Would that imply some sort of relationship or is it just a fashion statement for people in certain circles of Dragon City?
I'm not ready to draw a conclusion about that just yet. Maybe after I see some more episodes.
dorsul - September 15, 2006 09:54 PM (GMT)
Sentrus was kinda word and Moordryd's side when Word and Connar are argue (have you seen the way she looked at connar and said "if you feel your son is not ready") that means she hates Artha I think Sentrus is Zulay.
Liliwen - September 19, 2006 12:29 AM (GMT)
I've changed my mind. Hmmm, i now think that Sentrus is Word's twin. ^_^ Then we'll find out who his parents are, where he came from. And maybe we'd find out where Connor came from...
IbanezJFS - October 1, 2006 03:10 AM (GMT)
The only thing I think of when it comes to Zuley is this. Zuley sounds like a last name. And, I dont know why but, for some reason...I just picture that Zuley's real name is Sharyn Zuley. I have now clue why. It just came into my head. And, it could be quite possilbe that Sentrus is Zuley. Cuz, as far as we know. the last time we heard of here was in that Faster Than Fear episode. So anything could have happend. Maybe she to was taken in by Dragon Preists.
But, what I want to know is more about Kitt's and Parmon's family. Not to menchin Artha and Lance's mom. Cuz, I would like to know more about their backround. We dont even know if they even still live with their folks. I just get cruiouse this way.
koering - October 14, 2006 03:04 PM (GMT)
hey Skylii don't forget that word doesnot know that moordryd is the shadow boster ( or in the later episodes does he know? :unsure: )
DemonicFury - April 11, 2007 11:59 PM (GMT)
I believe he's suspicious, but no, I don't think he knows. Man. For a guy who built his own gear and created an empire, he sure is stupid. XD
Natalilly - April 12, 2007 10:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (IbanezJFS @ Oct 1 2006, 01:10 PM) |
| The only thing I think of when it comes to Zuley is this. Zuley sounds like a last name. |
And 'Word' totally sounds like a first name and all.
No. My plot bunny senses say no. I think Sentrus is meant to resemble Word in far more subtle ways then just hair, claws and skin tone- there's a lot to her cut of clothing, body structure and even movement, but I don't think this was meant to hint her as Word's wife. Unless he married his sister.... Might explain Moordryd's deformed waistline... ^_^
Another thing that's over looked is the DIFFERENCES between Moordryd and Word, differences I would assume came from his mother's side. Differences that don't match Sentrus.
Anyway, to knock the weak argument that Word is too proud to call Sentrus as Zulay- there is no surprise when he sees her. Pride or no pride, seeing your missing presumed dead wife after somewhere between fourteen and sixteen years, no matter how much you may resent her, will bring out a little bit of surprise, but he doesn't show that at all, there's no glimmer of recognition at all between either or them.
I think Sentrus will take over as authority figure in 'Dragon Booster Academy', taking the place of Word (Though not in the villian sense) for fear and respect from both boys. I think that may be why she's designed the way she is- mental association.
I also think Zulay will pop up in some context, either reference or in person, as will Artha's mother. Does anyone recall one of the DB team saying this on the board, some time ago?
Sarah Frost - April 12, 2007 10:23 AM (GMT)
Sentrus is an Academy scout, though. That doesn't give the impression of "authority figure" to me.
Then again, Faiar the Police Chief apparently takes personal control over gear tampering (what, no important murders that week?), so I certainly wouldn't be surprised. And obviously reusing character models saves money.
It could be that pale = important, which it is on our world, but we got Master Akarai, who does have a nice Sun City tan. If she's related to Word, there's the problem that he was apparently an orphan--did the nasty priests snatch him away from his sister? It's extremely unlikely that she's Zulay, of course, and she seems to favour Artha more. But Connor didn't react to her either.
No word at all on Artha and/or Lance's mother, and I don't recall the creators promising more Zulay. But since she was actually given a name and a mention, she'll probably resurface in some way. Dead or kidnapped by some ancient force are the most likely options, considering the amount of resources Word would have been able to put into finding her.
Decepshunmy - July 5, 2008 09:18 AM (GMT)
Sentrus is NOT Zulay Paynn. Zulay died, when Moordryd was just a baby, and had been raised by a nanny dragon.
Renesh - July 5, 2008 09:29 PM (GMT)
Actually, she's in the "missing, presumed dead" category, which, of course, means she'll be showing up again at some point. If a body isn't found, the character isn't dead.